That being the case, then this Charles must be the Emmanuel Charles Catley b
GRO 3/4 1881 Clutton (Radstock) bir 03/08/1881 Radstock bt 09/12/1883
Radstock and son of Edwin Catley and Fanny Stock nee Gould and a younger
brother of Thomas (the man killed at Loose in WW1) who married Mary Lewis in
Abergavenny in 1902.
Yet another sub branch of the Emery Catley of MSN family tree which should
make Glynis prick her ears up.
Many thank's (again) for your assistance.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Fw: seeking Edwin Catley b MSN circa 1855
Both 1891 and 1901 censuses have Charles Catley born Radstock 1882
son of
Edwin and Fanny; this matches the 1911 entry. Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:catley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Cattley
Sent: 4. november 2011 14:29
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Fw: seeking Edwin Catley b MSN circa 1855
Thank you Anthony for making the identification,
Charles & Annie Catty/Catley etc etc are proving difficult to locate with
regard to his birth//parents in the Radstock area and also marriage.
The likelihood is that he is a member of the Emery of MSN or Thomas of
Welton tree but I can not as yet, make a connection.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Fw: seeking Edwin Catley b MSN circa 1855
>I have found Charles Albert, Gordon and William Henry. They are all sons
>of
>Charles and Annie "Cattey" from MSN, who also have a daughter May. Since
>Ormond was not yet thought of that leaves two names on your list and we do
>know that Thomas had had two children by the time of the census. Anthony
>
> ________________________________________
> From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] On Behalf
> Of Tim Cattley [felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk]
> Sent: 03 November 2011 14:21
> To: catley @rootsweb
> Cc: John (Garforth) Catley
> Subject: [CATLEY] Fw: seeking Edwin Catley b MSN circa 1855
>
> More :-
>
> Seems that Find My Past is more helpful than Ancestry in my search for
> Edwin and Thomas.
>
> Another researcher (John) who uses the latter has suggested that Edwin
> may
> well be a member of the Emery Catley of MSN tree after all.
>
> Joshua Catley (son of Joshua & Mary Taylor) married Frances Wingham 1857
> St John's MSN and eldest son = Edwin b abt 1857 also and is to be found
> on
> the 1871 census along with younger siblings Thomas, Martha and Joshua.
> Come 1891 census we have Edwin married to Fanny with children Thos, Chas,
> Wm & Henry. 1901 census gives Edwin & Fanny with Chas, Wm & Henry still
> living at home and the 1911 census shows Edward&Fanny now living in
> Rotcombe Nr Bristol but with only Wm still with them.
>
> Edwin could be the Emery tree member who married Fanny Stock Gould, 1878,
> Ashwick, Nr Shepton Mallet.
>
> Edwin seems unable to make up his mind between being Edwin or Edward or
> whether born in MSN or Bath.
>
> Can anybody else confirm that Edwin / Thomas et al are chips off the
> Emery
> Catley block?
>
> Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tim Cattley
> To: catley @rootsweb
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:00 PM
> Subject: seeking Edwin Catley b MSN circa 1855
>
>
> Good morning All,
>
> I have hit a brick wall again and am asking for help in getting a 2nd
> confirmation of Edwin's existence.
>
> Situation :-
>
> Am trying to identify all the Catley's in South Wales from circa
> 1890-1920. We already have sight on members of both the
> Emery of Midsomer Norton (Somerset) tree and those of William of Kirton
> (Lincolnshire) who were employed in one way
> or another in the coal mining industry thank's to Glynis and Liz who have
> researched both lines between them.
>
> However the sum of these two trees does not equal the number of Catley's
> in S/Wales at that time.
>
> More recent research has identified a branch of the Thomas Catley of
> Welton (MSN) tree in the guise of Albert Henry (Harry) Catley
> who married in Abergavenny in 1913 and a resultant string of descendants
> to current living members but this still does not amount to
> the known total.
>
> The outstanding balance of "unknown" Catley's recorded would appear to
> stem partly from one Thomas who married Mary Lewis GRO 3/4 1902
> Abergavenny and there are a number of Abergavenny births that follow,
> that
> I can not marry up.
> Gwillim Thomas 4/4 1903
> Charles Albert 1/4 1907
> Gordon Thomas 4/4 1907
> Gordon 3/4 1909
> William Henry 1/4 1911
> Ormond J 2/4 1912
>
> However Thomas' later children are easy to identify which include twins
> in
> 1911, Eaton in 1914 and Gwilym in 1918. Thomas looks to have been killed
> in action in WW1 1917 Loose.
>
> Thomas appears in the 1891 census as a son of Edwin Catley :-
>
> 1891 Radstock, Somerset :- Edwin Catley age 37 a miner born Midsomer
> Norton. Wife, Nancy or Fancy age 41 and children Thomas age 11 born MSN,
> Charles age 9, William age 7 and Henry age 3 all born in Radstock.
>
> Edwin seems elusive in that I can not identify him in earlier census' nor
> can I find a record of his marriage. If the 1891 census is correct, he
> would have been born about 1855 MSN but I can not see any link with
> either
> the Thomas of Welton line nor that of Emery's.
>
> As for his grandchildren born in Abergavenny :- the 1911 census is
> unhelpful as none seem to appear.
>
> Has anybody done any research on this? Any assistance much appreciated.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
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