Hi Liz
I have him as marrying Lydia Scruby of Meldreth at Royston on the 1st July
1797
I have Settlement Index for Joseph Catley senior and 3 children Lettis,
Robert and Joseph jnr. details are "Joseph Catley, Melbourne Cambridgeshire,
Royston, December11,1793"
Might help tracing Joseph junior.
Regards
Allan Catley
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From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:catley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of lizcordingley
Sent: Saturday, 12 February 2011 11:32 a.m.
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Joseph Catley m Sarah Wilderspin 1831 Cambridge
Hi Allan,
How are you? I have John on my notes but can you refresh my memory on who he
married. I have 8 children for Joseph and Elizabeth Crane.
Thanks
Liz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Allan" <catley(a)usurf.co.nz>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Joseph Catley m Sarah Wilderspin 1831 Cambridge
Hi All
According to my limited research Joseph Catley married Elizabeth Crane 30
September 1771 Royston
They had a son John born/baptised Royston
6 March 1774 who was my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather.
Would appreciate any information on either Joseph or Elizabeth.
Regards
Allan Catley
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From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:catley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Cattley
Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011 12:45 p.m.
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Joseph Catley m Sarah Wilderspin 1831 Cambridge
Thank's for the Crane surname.
OK can see what happened to Betsey nee Hunt. She bur age 19y with her 3w
old
son 16/08/1850 St Paul's Cambs, sad....post natal infection?
OK also on Robert m a Mary in 1853.......found her, thank's
I am just looking at the whole area where the three Counties of
Herts/Essex/Cambs meet : Hertford / Royston /Cambridge / Sawston
/Chesterton
/ Newport / Bishops Stortford / Standon / Ware and back to Hertford again.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "lizcordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Joseph Catley m Sarah Wilderspin 1831 Cambridge
> Yep I have the details of Robert son of Joseph and Elizabeth Crane.
> Robert
> who married Betsey Hunt also married again to a Mary in 1853. I think
> they
> came under the Cambridgeshire lot. Don't know whether you class Cambridge
> as
> Royston.
> Liz
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Cattley" <felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Joseph Catley m Sarah Wilderspin 1831 Cambridge
>
>
>> The dates themselves are fine Liz, just a typing error of one hundred
>> years
>> !
>>
>> I take it you are happy then that this Robert (bt 25/12/1777) is from
>> Royston, parents Joseph Cattley and Elizabeth?
>>
>> Can't find the birth of William 1806
>>
>> OK on John b 1823 m Harriett Johnson and three children but I note that
>> he
>> had a younger brother Robert b 1828 who m Betsey Hunt in 1850, I bet
>> they
>> went to Adelaide with the others.
>>
>> Do we have any listers who have followed this emigration through in
>> Australia? Mick......have you got anything on this lot?
>>
>> Tim
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "lizcordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
>> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Joseph Catley m Sarah Wilderspin 1831 Cambridge
>>
>>
>>> Confused by your dates!!!!!!!!!!! As far as I can tell Robert was bap
>>> 25/12/1777. He had a child with Elizabeth Hall called William 1806
>>> before
>>> he
>>> married Elizabeth Fitch. She died 1817. Robert then married Anne Easy
>>> 1822
>>> before popping his clogs in 1831. Anne may also be known as Susan,
>>> Susanna.
>>> They had a son John 10/8/1823 who married Harriet Johnson and I believe
>>> they
>>> also went to Aus with kids.
>>> Liz
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tim Cattley" <felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
>>> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:17 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Joseph Catley m Sarah Wilderspin 1831 Cambridge
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thank's Liz,
>>>> The Fitch connection is proof. Do you have any records on the father
>>>> Robert?
>>>> Is he the one bt 25/12/1877 Royston, parents Joseph and Elizabeth?
>>>> Tim
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "lizcordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
>>>> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Joseph Catley m Sarah Wilderspin 1831 Cambridge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>> I have Joseph bap 7/2/1813 son of Robert and Elizabeth Fitch who
>>>>> married
>>>>> 19/6/1808 Chesterton Cambridge. You are also correct that they did
go
>>>>> to
>>>>> Australia.
>>>>> Liz
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Elaine Nash" <l.bellerby(a)btinternet.com>
>>>>> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 5:46 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Joseph Catley m Sarah Wilderspin 1831
Cambridge
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>> This pair I have the paper work on, but as yet I have not started on
>>>>> putting
>>>>> it all together. Will let you know what I find out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Elaine
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Wed, 9/2/11, Tim Cattley <felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Tim Cattley <felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
>>>>> Subject: [CATLEY] Joseph Catley m Sarah Wilderspin 1831 Cambridge
>>>>> To: "catley @rootsweb" <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, 9 February, 2011, 10:51
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Liz,Mick,Elaine,
>>>>>
>>>>> I know there has been some discussion between you in the past but am
>>>>> playing
>>>>> "catchup" on this subject.
>>>>>
>>>>>
www.bradshaw32.plus.com/family/listC suggests that the Joseph Catley
>>>>> who
>>>>> m
>>>>> Sarah Wilderspin (14/08/1831) at St Andrew's Cambridge, was from
>>>>> Melbourn
>>>>> as
>>>>> found in the 1841/51/61/71 census. The info contained on this web
>>>>> site
>>>>> suggests that Joseph and Sarah had children :-
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary A bt St Andrew's 1833
>>>>> Sarah bt ditto 1837
>>>>> William bt ditto 1840
>>>>> Eliza bt ditto 1844
>>>>>
>>>>> The IGI for this marriage suggests that Joseph was born abt 1806.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can not identify a suitable "fit" for this Joseph unless
he is the
>>>>> person
>>>>> subjected to a settlement order in 1793 (Melbourn to Royston) or,
>>>>> more
>>>>> unlikely, the Joseph from the James Catley of Barley tree bt
>>>>> 15/07/1798,
>>>>> son
>>>>> of William and Ann Clark.
>>>>>
>>>>> Furthermore, my records suggest that Joseph and Sarah's children
>>>>> differ
>>>>> from
>>>>> that shown above, ie :-
>>>>>
>>>>> William bt 30/06/1833 St Andrew's Cambridge died 1838 . bur St
>>>>> Andrew's
>>>>> Elizabeth F bt in 1835 ditto
>>>>> Sarah Ann bt 04/02/1838 ditto
>>>>> William bt 19/04/1840 ditto
>>>>> John Francis bt 16/01/1843 ditto
>>>>> Eliza Fitch bt 01/06/1845 ditto
>>>>> George Fitch bt 01/02/1853.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1852 shows Joseph & Sarah plus their 5/7 surviving children
>>>>> emigrating
>>>>> ex
>>>>> Liverpool to Port Adelaide S.Au.
>>>>>
>>>>> Q1 : Can you (have you) identify Joseph's birth and or connection
>>>>> with
>>>>> Melbourn?
>>>>> Q2 : Have you 'connected' him to either the Joseph of
Melbourn or
>>>>> James
>>>>> of
>>>>> Barley family trees?
>>>>> Q3 : Has anybody done a study on children William, John Francis and
>>>>> George
>>>>> in Australia...is there a resulting tree from them?
>>>>>
>>>>> Q4 : My records for the area N.E Herts / N.W.Essex / S.W. Cambs
>>>>> (1613-2009)
>>>>> show some 1209 Catley bmd events yet only about 40% of them can be
>>>>> explained
>>>>> by the known Joseph of Melbourn and James of Barley trees :-
>>>>>
>>>>> Q5 : Is anybody researching this mass of unidentified Cat*leys?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
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