Hi All,
Just caught up with the messages. Charles and Arundell Penny, he is related
to Joseph and Elizabeth Hagger. Charles died and Arundell remarried as
stated. They did have a child in Newington but I believe she died in
infancy.
Liz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Descendants of Charles and Charlotte Catkey Australia
Arundell Catley has been discussed earlier on the list and it was
shown
she married Thomas Pizzey aka Pizzy 13 December 1859. The record has since
become available on Ancestry and shows that she was then a widow. The
couple can be found in 1861 with a son Thomas aged 21 and thus from Mr
Pizzey's first marriage but no Harriett (or Hannah). She was enumerated at
the St Saviour Union Infirmary in 1881 and died there 5 June 1882 of
paralysis, agitation and diarrhoea. Almost certainly predeceased by the
much older Thomas for whom there is a good match on FreeBMD for 1870. I
failed to find either in the 1871 census.
Tim should now be able to give the final word on which Charles is whom -
again there are earlier listings on the topic. They suggest Arundell's
parents-in-law were Joseph Catley and Elizabeth Hagger. Anthony
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From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] On Behalf
Of Mick Catley [catleym(a)netspeed.com.au]
Sent: 27 March 2011 15:02
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Descendants of Charles and Charlotte Catkey
Australia
G'day Anthony and Tim,
Charles and Charlotte's first- born child was baptised "Elizabeth Burdett
Catley". This is overwhelming evidence that Charles' parents were Joseph
Catley and Elizabeth Burdett who were married in Melbourn, Cambridgeshire
9
Feb 1804.
The passenger manifest for the "Equestrian" does not list a wife for
Charles. He married Charlotte in Sydney in 1850.
Regards,
Mick Catley
-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony M. Carter
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:47 PM
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Descendants of Charles and Charlotte Catkey
Australia
Sorry to be a spoilsport but a Charles and Arundell Catley were enumerated
in Finsbury in 1851. No children but a nephew George. This Charles is a
brewer's servant which fits the Newington marriage certificate. Thus they
are unlikely to have gone to Oz in 1848. The 1851 Charles is from
Buntingford, Herts and Arundell from Upton Lovell Wilts. Anthony
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From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] On Behalf
Of
Tim Cattley [felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk]
Sent: 27 March 2011 10:47
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Descendants of Charles and Charlotte Catkey
Australia
How do David and Mick,
It is quite possible that your Catley clan in AU could be a branch of the
Joseph Catley of Melbourn (Cambridgeshire) tree, that is if Mick is
correct
in the identification of Charles being bapt in Melbourn on 15/10/1826 and
born Cambridge a year earlier on 21/10/1825.
I think the parents should be Joseph Catley (Joseph of Melbourn 1783) and
Elizabeth Burdette, Charles being their 6th out of 7 children.
Looking at Lynda's "Joseph of Melbourn" tree notes, shows that this
Charles
m Arundell Penny 07/11/1840 at St Mary's, Newington (London) and that they
had a daughter, Hannah b Newington sometime in that year. Lynda has
evidently not managed to search Charles further, maybe the shipping list
shows Charles+Arundell+Hannah leaving UK in 1848 or, was Charles a widower
by this time?
My own spreadsheet notes show a Charles Catley m Charlotte McClennahan in
NSW in 1850 and the birth of a son George 18/09/1853 Coogee Bay NSW but
not
when he m Euphemia Haggarty.
Maybe Liz or Kay have further information.
David :- there is a known dna connection between Joseph's Melbourn tree
and
the Hertfordshire one that Mick refers to i.e "James of Barley 1709" but
also another Cambridgeshire tree " John of Sawston 1827".
I am pretty sure that Lynda has at least one other direct branch which
emigrated out to AU so maybe you are not the sole members out there.
Regards
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mick Catley" <catleym(a)netspeed.com.au>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Descendants of Charles and Charlotte Catkey
Australia
> G'day David,
>
> I have not set out to research your Charles Catley but I have gathered
> some
> records while researching my family line which is designated by Tim as
> the
> James Catley of Barley line. Your Charles, the son of Joseph and
> Elizabeth
> Catley, was born in Drury Lane Cambridgeshire on 21 Oct 1825 and
> christened at Melbourn, Cambridgeshire 15 Oct 1826. He is listed in the
> 1841 census as an agricultural labourer. He arrived in Sydney, Australia
> on
> the ship, "Equestrian" 16 July 1848. Most of the subscribers to the
> Rootsweb Cat(t)ley list believe their is a connection between the Barley
> and
> Cambridgeshire Catleys. Charles' wife, Charlotte McClenahan was born
> Ireland 17 Mar 1826. Their is quite a lot of information on them in NSW
> records.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mick Catley
>
>
>
> ----Original Message-----
> From: David Kelly
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:45 AM
> To: CATLEY(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [CATLEY] Descendants of Charles and Charlotte Catkey Australia
>
> My mother is Phyllis Larsen,who married Alan Raymond Kelly. My
> grandmother
> was Emma Annie Agnes Catley, who married Ringwol Robeson Larsen. Her
> sister
> was Elizabeth Catley. Their parents were George Catley and Euphemia
> Phyllis
> Haggarty. George's parents were Charles Catley and Charlotte McClennahan.
> Is
> there someone whose has done research on this side of the Australian
> Catley's, and do they know of our family?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> David Kelly
>
>
>
>
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