Thank you Pat, for the input.
Your information is confirmed by Mick concerning the eight passengers
belonging to the John Catley of Sawston family tree (Hurunui).
Was a bit puzzled for a moment about Sophia T and Sophia J plus Herny R and
Robert J until I realized that they are transfer errors and relate to an
entirely different tree:-
Namely : Robert James Cattley (widower) b 1828 Enfield, UK and his two
children Henry Robert Cattley b 1859 Ontario, Canada and Sophia Caroline
Cattley b 1861 Ontario, Canada.
As I do not have familysearch, can only guess at the number of passengers
who embarked on the Hurunui at Gravesend 24/11/1875 but can but only think
that during the three months on passage to NZ that William Catley and Robert
James Cattley must have found out about the others presence on board and
introduced themselves to oneanother, one a leather worker from Sawston and
the other a bank clerk from Gravesend who had originally emigrated to Canada
with his wife Sophia where they raised four children but lost the two
youngest there from TB and when Sophia also contracted the ailment Robert
bought his family back to the UK. His wife Sophia died in a hospice in
Paddington and so, here we are, a year later with Robert and his two
surviving children emigrating, him to take up a position at Egmont as a
school teacher. Robert Cattley was a member of the Stevan Catlay of
Normanton (Yorkshire) family tree.
Regards
Tim
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From: "Pat H" <patsm2010(a)gmail.com>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] CATLEY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 123
Hi All
Details of the Catley family who migrated to NZ are on
. Listed are Susan Catley aged 37, Susannah Catley
aged 14, Ruth Catley aged 16, William Catley aged 41, William Catley
aged 5, Sophia T Catley aged 14, Thomas Catley aged 12, John Catley
aged 9, Edith Catley aged 3, Robert J Catley aged 47, Henry R Catley
aged 16, and Sophia J Catley aged 14.
Pat
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:23 AM, <catley-request(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
Today's Topics:
1. Cambridge Catley emigrations to NZ 1875 (Tim Cattley)
2. Re: Cambridge Catley emigrations to NZ 1875 (lizcordingley)
3. Re: Cambridge Catley emigrations to NZ 1875 (Tim Cattley)
4. Re: Cambridge Catley emigrations to NZ 1875 (lizcordingley)
5. Fw: HULL (no subject) (lizcordingley)
6. Re: Fw: HULL (no subject) (Tim Cattley)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:37:37 +0100
From: "Tim Cattley" <felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
Subject: [CATLEY] Cambridge Catley emigrations to NZ 1875
To: "catley @rootsweb" <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
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How do All,
Anthony has been doing some primary research on Catleys just South of
Cambridge (in Essex) in an effort to resolve a marriage in London. This
has resulted in the nomination of a new Catley tree which we call William
of Great Chesterford.
This activity has drawn my attention to an unresolved emigration to New
Zealand in 1875/76 :-
>From the Catley database entry supplied by KayH we have a Cambridge based
>family comprised of
William aged 41 a leatherworker
Ruth, wife, and children :-
Susanna
Thomas
John
William
Edith.
They departed ex London for Taranaki NZ 24/11/1875 arriving there three
months later.
Am interested in which tree William belongs to. My thoughts currently are
that he was the William bt 30/06/1833 St Andrew's Cambridge which would
place him as the son of Joseph Catley and Sarah nee Wilderspin. There is a
marriage for a William recorded in 1859 at Linton which is a few miles
East of Sawston (where there is a large clutch of Catleys in the Parish
Records) and a bt for a Susanna in Colchester in 1862, a Thomas in 1864 in
Bury St Edmunds and a John in 1866 also Bury St Edmunds.
Liz: have you anything on this William and family which places him in a
known Catley tree? If I am right about his parentage, then he is a member
of the Joseph Catley of Royston tree.
Also, does anybody have any information on them in NZ? With three sons, it
is very likely that there were marriages and the formation of a NZ branch.
Tim
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Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 15:45:46 +0100
From: "lizcordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Cambridge Catley emigrations to NZ 1875
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
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Hi Tim,
Are you sure you have the correct wife and that it is Ruth and not Susanna
Liz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Cattley" <felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
To: "catley @rootsweb" <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 11:37 AM
Subject: [CATLEY] Cambridge Catley emigrations to NZ 1875
> How do All,
>
> Anthony has been doing some primary research on Catleys just South of
> Cambridge (in Essex) in an effort to resolve a marriage in London. This
> has resulted in the nomination of a new Catley tree which we call William
> of Great Chesterford.
>
> This activity has drawn my attention to an unresolved emigration to New
> Zealand in 1875/76 :-
>
>>From the Catley database entry supplied by KayH we have a Cambridge based
>>family comprised of
>
> William aged 41 a leatherworker
> Ruth, wife, and children :-
> Susanna
> Thomas
> John
> William
> Edith.
>
> They departed ex London for Taranaki NZ 24/11/1875 arriving there three
> months later.
>
> Am interested in which tree William belongs to. My thoughts currently are
> that he was the William bt 30/06/1833 St Andrew's Cambridge which would
> place him as the son of Joseph Catley and Sarah nee Wilderspin. There is
> a marriage for a William recorded in 1859 at Linton which is a few miles
> East of Sawston (where there is a large clutch of Catleys in the Parish
> Records) and a bt for a Susanna in Colchester in 1862, a Thomas in 1864
> in
> Bury St Edmunds and a John in 1866 also Bury St Edmunds.
>
> Liz: have you anything on this William and family which places him in a
> known Catley tree? If I am right about his parentage, then he is a member
> of the Joseph Catley of Royston tree.
>
> Also, does anybody have any information on them in NZ? With three sons,
> it is very likely that there were marriages and the formation of a NZ
> branch.
>
> Tim
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:56:57 +0100
From: "Tim Cattley" <communicat(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Cambridge Catley emigrations to NZ 1875
To: "catley @rootsweb" <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
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No Liz, not sure at all, Kay did not indicate which if any was William's
wife and I had assumed that Ruth, as first listed, was probably she.
However
I think your question is loaded (ie Susanna) so have had another look and
think that probably the William in question must be the one bt 1830
Sawston
son of William & Mary Ann who married Susan Elam in Cambridge in 1859.
I can find children :- Ruth b GRO 4/4 Bury St Edmunds, Thomas William b
GRO
3/4 1864 Bury St Edmunds and John.E. b 4/4 1866 also Bury St Edmunds. Then
there is an Edith Mary b GRO 3/4 1872 Bury St Edmunds as well.
This would make William 1830 "William of Sawston" and where we start with
Alan in NZ's Catley tree.
Is that better? Have I got it right this time?
Tim
(Apologies to Alan, I don't think he had mentioned the Bury St Edmunds
connection before, or if he did, I had not picked up on it, sorry)
----- Original Message -----
From: "lizcordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Cambridge Catley emigrations to NZ 1875
> Hi Tim,
> Are you sure you have the correct wife and that it is Ruth and not
> Susanna
> Liz
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Cattley" <felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
> To: "catley @rootsweb" <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 11:37 AM
> Subject: [CATLEY] Cambridge Catley emigrations to NZ 1875
>
>
>> How do All,
>>
>> Anthony has been doing some primary research on Catleys just South of
>> Cambridge (in Essex) in an effort to resolve a marriage in London. This
>> has resulted in the nomination of a new Catley tree which we call
>> William
>> of Great Chesterford.
>>
>> This activity has drawn my attention to an unresolved emigration to New
>> Zealand in 1875/76 :-
>>
>>>From the Catley database entry supplied by KayH we have a Cambridge
>>>based
>>>family comprised of
>>
>> William aged 41 a leatherworker
>> Ruth, wife, and children :-
>> Susanna
>> Thomas
>> John
>> William
>> Edith.
>>
>> They departed ex London for Taranaki NZ 24/11/1875 arriving there three
>> months later.
>>
>> Am interested in which tree William belongs to. My thoughts currently
>> are
>> that he was the William bt 30/06/1833 St Andrew's Cambridge which would
>> place him as the son of Joseph Catley and Sarah nee Wilderspin. There is
>> a marriage for a William recorded in 1859 at Linton which is a few miles
>> East of Sawston (where there is a large clutch of Catleys in the Parish
>> Records) and a bt for a Susanna in Colchester in 1862, a Thomas in 1864
>> in
>> Bury St Edmunds and a John in 1866 also Bury St Edmunds.
>>
>> Liz: have you anything on this William and family which places him in a
>> known Catley tree? If I am right about his parentage, then he is a
>> member
>> of the Joseph Catley of Royston tree.
>>
>> Also, does anybody have any information on them in NZ? With three sons,
>> it is very likely that there were marriages and the formation of a NZ
>> branch.
>>
>> Tim
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 20:37:53 +0100
From: "lizcordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Cambridge Catley emigrations to NZ 1875
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
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Hi Tim
Yes thats the family I have. Williams parents and other members of the
family where Ropemakers. There are various references to Little and Great
Shelford which I believe is near Great Chesterford.
Liz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Cattley" <communicat(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
To: "catley @rootsweb" <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Cambridge Catley emigrations to NZ 1875
> No Liz, not sure at all, Kay did not indicate which if any was William's
> wife and I had assumed that Ruth, as first listed, was probably she.
> However
> I think your question is loaded (ie Susanna) so have had another look and
> think that probably the William in question must be the one bt 1830
> Sawston
> son of William & Mary Ann who married Susan Elam in Cambridge in 1859.
> I can find children :- Ruth b GRO 4/4 Bury St Edmunds, Thomas William b
> GRO
> 3/4 1864 Bury St Edmunds and John.E. b 4/4 1866 also Bury St Edmunds.
> Then
> there is an Edith Mary b GRO 3/4 1872 Bury St Edmunds as well.
> This would make William 1830 "William of Sawston" and where we start with
> Alan in NZ's Catley tree.
> Is that better? Have I got it right this time?
>
> Tim
>
> (Apologies to Alan, I don't think he had mentioned the Bury St Edmunds
> connection before, or if he did, I had not picked up on it, sorry)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "lizcordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 3:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Cambridge Catley emigrations to NZ 1875
>
>
>> Hi Tim,
>> Are you sure you have the correct wife and that it is Ruth and not
>> Susanna
>> Liz
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tim Cattley" <felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
>> To: "catley @rootsweb" <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 11:37 AM
>> Subject: [CATLEY] Cambridge Catley emigrations to NZ 1875
>>
>>
>>> How do All,
>>>
>>> Anthony has been doing some primary research on Catleys just South of
>>> Cambridge (in Essex) in an effort to resolve a marriage in London. This
>>> has resulted in the nomination of a new Catley tree which we call
>>> William
>>> of Great Chesterford.
>>>
>>> This activity has drawn my attention to an unresolved emigration to New
>>> Zealand in 1875/76 :-
>>>
>>>>From the Catley database entry supplied by KayH we have a Cambridge
>>>>based
>>>>family comprised of
>>>
>>> William aged 41 a leatherworker
>>> Ruth, wife, and children :-
>>> Susanna
>>> Thomas
>>> John
>>> William
>>> Edith.
>>>
>>> They departed ex London for Taranaki NZ 24/11/1875 arriving there three
>>> months later.
>>>
>>> Am interested in which tree William belongs to. My thoughts currently
>>> are
>>> that he was the William bt 30/06/1833 St Andrew's Cambridge which would
>>> place him as the son of Joseph Catley and Sarah nee Wilderspin. There
>>> is
>>> a marriage for a William recorded in 1859 at Linton which is a few
>>> miles
>>> East of Sawston (where there is a large clutch of Catleys in the Parish
>>> Records) and a bt for a Susanna in Colchester in 1862, a Thomas in 1864
>>> in
>>> Bury St Edmunds and a John in 1866 also Bury St Edmunds.
>>>
>>> Liz: have you anything on this William and family which places him in a
>>> known Catley tree? If I am right about his parentage, then he is a
>>> member
>>> of the Joseph Catley of Royston tree.
>>>
>>> Also, does anybody have any information on them in NZ? With three sons,
>>> it is very likely that there were marriages and the formation of a NZ
>>> branch.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
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Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 22:07:46 +0100
From: "lizcordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: [CATLEY] Fw: HULL (no subject)
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I have signed
Liz
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Subject: HULL (no subject)
>
> This came via another list - worth a look and signing if you are a UK
> citizen
>
>
>
> See: -
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1792
>
>> Research Copies for Birth, Marriage & Death Certificates for
>> Genealogical Research Purposes
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Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 22:23:04 +0100
From: "Tim Cattley" <felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Fw: HULL (no subject)
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Me too
Tim
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Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 10:07 PM
Subject: [CATLEY] Fw: HULL (no subject)
>I have signed
> Liz
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> To: <eng-yks-hull(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 8:53 PM
> Subject: HULL (no subject)
>
>
>>
>> This came via another list - worth a look and signing if you are a UK
>> citizen
>>
>>
>>
>> See: -
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1792
>>
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>>> Genealogical Research Purposes
>>>
>>> Responsible department: Home Office
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