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Hi Everybody,
Just to let you know that there is a world war 1 victory medal for sale on e-bay.
It belonged to Pte. B Catley machine gun corps. (13316)
Hope it could be of interest to somebody.
Elaine
Evening all,
Have just done an extraction of confirmed births based upon the "Big Three"dna matched regional Cat*ley trees :-
They are as follows
Yorkshire (Stevan of Normanton+Edmund of Bilston+Robert of Garforth) = 953 births
Herts/Essex/Cambs (James of Barley+Joseph of Melbourn+John of Sawston) = 587 births
Lincolnshire (William of Kirton + Thomas of Bottesford) = 473 births
This is for the period 1581-2010
Tim
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Hello Liz,
The names you quote may not mean anything to some listers, so am turning the
results into tree form Title for them :-
Thus John Catley from Bristol is a member of the Robert Catley of Garforth
(Yorkshire 1690) tree whilst John David Cattley is a member of the Edmond
Catley of Bilton Ainstey (Yorkshire 1748) tree with a Y37 match at genetic
distance 1 which I take it : is very close indeed. This news is hardly
surprising as the two trees furthest back researched ancestors were living
only some 12 miles away both in the hinterland between York and Leeds.
We already have a match at Y37 genetic distance 4 between the Stevan Catlay
of Normanton (Yorkshire 1580) and the Edmond Catley of Bilton trees which
means that in the light of the latest results, we have a solid Yorkshire
"main dna Catley tree" which shows a collective 953 confirmed births between
1581 and 2010.
The "Yorkshire Catleys" do not end there because we also have a trace on the
following as well :-
Stephen of Ackworth (1603)
Stephen of Leeds (1825)
Robert of Rothwell (1838)
Thomas of Escrick (1823)
Sadly there is no possibility of a dna test for either the Escrick or
Ackworth clans and little likelyhood for the Leeds source either, however
the Rothwell brigade is a different matter with a very good choice of
suitable males.........only trouble is that none of them are interested in
their genealogy and so to get any of them to part with a Y37 dna test fee is
very unlikely.........this is why Liz and self are trying to encourage
Alexis Cattley to do the test (he was at last years annual gathering in
Oxford) but so far without any success!
I think it highly likely, based on 3 out of 3 tests so far, that in
probability, the West Yorkshire Cat*leys all belong to one common ancestor.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Liz,
Q1 :- Is there any point in considering matches at the Y12 marker at any
genetic distance, even an "exact match" ? I ask this because I have Francis
Richard Catley of the John of Hackney (London 1803) tree showing up but also
two Cantley's and a Catlin for good measure. None of these have caused any
excitement. Do I take it then that I am "probably related" to them all, with
a common ancestor probably some 15 generations++ away?
Q2 :- Why does my FTDNA matches list NOT INCLUDE any ref to John in Bristol
(Garforth)? Surely this is wrong? If he is a Y37 match at genetic distance
1 with John David (Bilton) and John David (Bilton) is a Y37 genetic distance
4 with me (Normanton) how come there is no match on my list with John
(Garforth) at any level? You may have sight as Group Controller to figures
that do not come my way, please explain.
Q3 :- With the exception of the two Lincolnshire trees; William of Kirton
(1709) + Thomas of Bottesford (1742) plus the three Herts/Essex/Cambs trees;
James of Barley (1709) + Joseph of Melbourn (1804) + John of Sawston (1827)
who carry the dna classification I2a and I1 respectively, the rest of the
trees tested carried the code R1b1b2 but I notice that John (Garforth) now
has the classification R1b1a2. A review of my Normanton test shows that my
grouping has also been ammended to R1b1a2 as well. Can you confirm then if
other tested trees given R1b1b2 originally have also been ammended to R1b1a2
status as well ?
They are of course :- Charles of Greenwich (1867) Emery of MSN (1731) John
of Hackney (1803) Thomas of Bath (1819).
Cheers
Tim
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From: "lizcordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 5:42 PM
Subject: [CATLEY] DNA results
> Hi All,
> News just in on latest DNA test.
> John Catley from Bristol matches up with Marg's Nephew John David Cattley
> in Penns. The genetic distance on all 3 marker tests is 1. This means that
> although he is related to Tim and Francis Richard Catley he is closer
> related to John David and therefore they share a common ancestor closer in
> generations than that of the other 2 members.
>
> So we know that part of the Garforth tree belongs to Yorkshire and NOT
> Linclonshire Catley's.
>
> Any questions about this result email me.
> Liz
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Hi Bernie,
Nothing yet. I haven't had time to go down to the archives in Medway ref the
boat he was held on in Chatham, but I haven't forgotten you.
Liz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roosters" <bernard_catley(a)bigpond.com>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Newspaper articles part 2
> Hi Liz , iam just checking in to see anything new on my Thomas of Bath -
> Bernie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:catley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
> Behalf Of lizcordingley
> Sent: Monday, 17 January 2011 10:43 PM
> To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Newspaper articles part 2
>
> Hi Bernie,
> I did look out for him but as of yet nothing will re - check later.
> Liz
>
> On 17 January 2011 02:02, Bernie <catley(a)tadaust.org.au> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Liz ,
>> is there anything in the Bath Chronicle nov 1837 Thomas Catley as
>> when I paid for a copy got about 3 lines from them - Bernie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:catley-bounces@rootsweb.com]
>> On Behalf Of lizcordingley
>> Sent: Monday, 17 January 2011 6:07 AM
>> To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
>> Subject: [CATLEY] Newspaper articles part 2
>>
>> The Liverpool Mercury
>> 24/8/1838
>> Death
>> June 25th at Demerara in his 27th year Capt W H Catley of the Barque
>> Prince Regent o this port and nephew of Captain Jas White of St James
> Place.
>>
>> The Leeds Mercury
>> 5/1/1839 Sat
>> Sameday aged 39 Mr Joseph Catley tailor of Todmorden.
>>
>> The Bristol Mercury
>> 23/5/1840
>> Death
>> May 19 aged 2 yr Henry Brodribb the aflicted infant son of Mr R W
>> Catley Union Street
>>
>> Cambridge
>> 14/3/1842
>> Death
>> On Thursday last after a few hours illness Rebecca the wife of Mr
>> Moore plumber and glazier of New Square and daughter of Mr Catley
>> porter of Jesus College.
>>
>> Cambridge
>> 22/8/1842
>> Marriage
>> On the 6th instant Mr Justitian Adcock Solicitor to Emma eldest
>> daughter of Mr Wm Catley both of this town.
>>
>> The York Herald
>> 27/8/1842
>> Death
>> Sameday at Bridlington Quay aged 79 yrs Captian John Catley.
>>
>> The Hull Packet
>> 31/3/1843
>> Death
>> On Sunday week at Cleethorpes aged 89 Sarah Catley widow of John
>> Forman of Fulstow also widow of Geo Wray for many years bricklayer at
>> Grimsby and also widow o the late Charles Catley of Scartho.
>>
>> The Bristol Mercury
>> 27/4/1844
>> Death
>> April 23rd age 44 deeply lamented by his bereaved family and friends
>> Mr R W Catley Union Street.
>>
>> Cambridge
>> 18/11/1844
>> Marriage
>> On the 7th instant Peter John son of Mr H Headly of Hobson Street to
>> Caroline youngest daughter of the late Mr William Catley all of this
>> town.
>>
>> The Sheffield and Rotherham Independent
>> 28/12/1844
>> Marriage
>> On Christmas Day at Rotherham Mr John Alsop laborour to Miss Charlotte
>> Catley.
>>
>> The Hull Packet
>> 20/3/1846
>> Death
>> Lately of Caistor 29 years Mrs Catley wie of Mr W Catley shoemaker and
>> daughter of Mr John Rhodes nurseryman and seedsman.
>>
>> The Leeds Mercury
>> 27/5/1848
>> Death
>> Sameday aged 37 Hannah wife of Mr Laurell of Stank near Harewood
>> eldest daughter of the late Mr Robert Catley of Bramham.
>>
>> The Bristol mercury
>> 24/2/1849
>> Marriage
>> 21st Feb at Brunswick Chapel by the Rev Thomas Haynes Mr Lewis Bryant
>> to Ann Mary only daughter of the late Mr R W Catley of this city.
>>
>> The Nottinghamshire Guardian and Midland Advertiser 21/2/1850 Death On
>> the 12th Mary wife of John Catley of Mill Gate aged 29.
>>
>> The Nottinghamshire Guardian and Midland Advertiser 4/4/1850 Marriage
>> At the Wesleyan Chapel Newark on the 12th instant by the Rev W B
>> Stephenson Mr George Harrison of Carter Gate to Miss Eliza Catley of
>> South Parade.
>>
>> The Bradford Observer
>> 9/5/1850
>> Death
>> Sameday age 60 Alice wife of Mr Samuel Catley o Spring Row Wilsden.
>>
>> The Bristol Mercury
>> 7/9/1850
>> Marriage
>> Sept 5th at Widcombe old Church Bath Joseph Alden Esq of Long Ashton
>> to Anne widow of the late Mr R W Catley of Union Street Bristol.
>>
>> The Bristol Mercury
>> 1/2/1851
>> Marriage
>> Jan 26th at Writhlington near Radstock by the Rev H B Whiteing Henry
>> eldest son of James Offer Esq of MSN to Emma eldest daughter of Mr
>> Joseph Catley Writhlington.
>>
>>
>>
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Hi All,
News just in on latest DNA test.
John Catley from Bristol matches up with Marg's Nephew John David Cattley in Penns. The genetic distance on all 3 marker tests is 1. This means that although he is related to Tim and Francis Richard Catley he is closer related to John David and therefore they share a common ancestor closer in generations than that of the other 2 members.
So we know that part of the Garforth tree belongs to Yorkshire and NOT Linclonshire Catley's.
Any questions about this result email me.
Liz
Hi Liz ,
is there anything in the Bath Chronicle nov 1837 Thomas Catley as when I
paid for a copy got about 3 lines from them - Bernie
-----Original Message-----
From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:catley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of lizcordingley
Sent: Monday, 17 January 2011 6:07 AM
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CATLEY] Newspaper articles part 2
The Liverpool Mercury
24/8/1838
Death
June 25th at Demerara in his 27th year Capt W H Catley of the Barque Prince
Regent o this port and nephew of Captain Jas White of St James Place.
The Leeds Mercury
5/1/1839 Sat
Sameday aged 39 Mr Joseph Catley tailor of Todmorden.
The Bristol Mercury
23/5/1840
Death
May 19 aged 2 yr Henry Brodribb the aflicted infant son of Mr R W Catley
Union Street
Cambridge
14/3/1842
Death
On Thursday last after a few hours illness Rebecca the wife of Mr Moore
plumber and glazier of New Square and daughter of Mr Catley porter of Jesus
College.
Cambridge
22/8/1842
Marriage
On the 6th instant Mr Justitian Adcock Solicitor to Emma eldest daughter of
Mr Wm Catley both of this town.
The York Herald
27/8/1842
Death
Sameday at Bridlington Quay aged 79 yrs Captian John Catley.
The Hull Packet
31/3/1843
Death
On Sunday week at Cleethorpes aged 89 Sarah Catley widow of John Forman of
Fulstow also widow of Geo Wray for many years bricklayer at Grimsby and also
widow o the late Charles Catley of Scartho.
The Bristol Mercury
27/4/1844
Death
April 23rd age 44 deeply lamented by his bereaved family and friends Mr R W
Catley Union Street.
Cambridge
18/11/1844
Marriage
On the 7th instant Peter John son of Mr H Headly of Hobson Street to
Caroline youngest daughter of the late Mr William Catley all of this town.
The Sheffield and Rotherham Independent
28/12/1844
Marriage
On Christmas Day at Rotherham Mr John Alsop laborour to Miss Charlotte
Catley.
The Hull Packet
20/3/1846
Death
Lately of Caistor 29 years Mrs Catley wie of Mr W Catley shoemaker and
daughter of Mr John Rhodes nurseryman and seedsman.
The Leeds Mercury
27/5/1848
Death
Sameday aged 37 Hannah wife of Mr Laurell of Stank near Harewood eldest
daughter of the late Mr Robert Catley of Bramham.
The Bristol mercury
24/2/1849
Marriage
21st Feb at Brunswick Chapel by the Rev Thomas Haynes Mr Lewis Bryant to Ann
Mary only daughter of the late Mr R W Catley of this city.
The Nottinghamshire Guardian and Midland Advertiser 21/2/1850 Death On the
12th Mary wife of John Catley of Mill Gate aged 29.
The Nottinghamshire Guardian and Midland Advertiser 4/4/1850 Marriage At the
Wesleyan Chapel Newark on the 12th instant by the Rev W B Stephenson Mr
George Harrison of Carter Gate to Miss Eliza Catley of South Parade.
The Bradford Observer
9/5/1850
Death
Sameday age 60 Alice wife of Mr Samuel Catley o Spring Row Wilsden.
The Bristol Mercury
7/9/1850
Marriage
Sept 5th at Widcombe old Church Bath Joseph Alden Esq of Long Ashton to Anne
widow of the late Mr R W Catley of Union Street Bristol.
The Bristol Mercury
1/2/1851
Marriage
Jan 26th at Writhlington near Radstock by the Rev H B Whiteing Henry eldest
son of James Offer Esq of MSN to Emma eldest daughter of Mr Joseph Catley
Writhlington.
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Ok thanks looked like a snow effect and thanks again Tim
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From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:catley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Cattley
Sent: Saturday, 15 January 2011 5:59 PM
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Catley Database contacts list and database amendments
Hi Bernie,
There you are then, job done. Chris will ammend your e-mail address as
requested but has given the opportunity for all of us to tailor our database
profiles as well.
Regards
Tim
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From: "Chris Newall" <chris(a)rebus.demon.co.uk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 9:30 AM
Subject: [CATLEY] Catley Database contacts list and database amendments
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Contacts
> ======
>
> Please would all members of the group review their entries in the Catley
> Database Contacts page:
>
> www.rebus.demon.co.uk/catleydb/contacts.htm
>
> and post any corrections or amendments to me. Please note that code
> names, e.g. CHRISN, cannot be changed but contact EMail addresses and
> research interests can be.
>
> If you wish to be removed from the contact list please let me know, but
> be aware that in such cases any events you have contributed to the
> database will be reassigned to an UNKNOWN submitter.
>
> Amendments
> ==========
>
> From time to time, existing event records need to be amended, either
> because new details can be added or because some of the original
> transcription was incorrect [most errors are misspellings].
>
> When submitting new data or amendments please resist the temptation to
> enhance the data. The events database should reflect what is in the
> original records, i.e. Wm. or Elizth., not what you interpret it to be,
> e.g. William or Elizabeth. Interpretation is more correctly a matter for
> analysis and discussion within the group.
>
> From now on when amendments are made to existing event records, the
> person requesting the amendment takes responsibility for the entire
> entry and will be listed as the submitter, replacing the original
> submitter in the database.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
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