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Anthony
Mary Frances C was a younger spinster sister of Alfred's and lived for
another 34 years after his death. I had already found the site that shows
his house in Chatfield, Ohio but no doubt this will be of interest to
Eria/Joan/Ingrid.
Many thanks
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Tim: As others have reported National Probate Calendar confirms he died
Bucyrus Ohio on 19 January 1881 and that administration of the estate (£449
4s. 7d.) was granted to Mary Frances Cattley of Egdean, Pulborough, Sussex,
spinster, the sister and one of the next of kin. It throws no light on his
occupation in Ohio. However, if the link survives transmission you will find
an engraving of his house, "Pleasant Home" in Chatfield Township. Anthony
http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/63677/W+C++Lemert++Pleasant+Home++...
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Tim Cattley [felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk]
Sent: 02 December 2010 15:30
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Thank you Anthony, a nice bit of detective work.....Erica/Joan/Ingrid will
no doubt be most interested in this subject.
Suppose that I should have considered Alfred Cresswell C as a possibility
but the penny did not drop! He looks to have been a bit of a ditherer and I
lost site of him going out to India : 20/01/1849 on the ship "Moozuffer" on
appointment to the India Navy Lists as a midshipman which I assume was part
of the HEIC (Honourable East India Company) and he is shown as stopping off
in Aden 17/02/1849 (see shipping note) enroute to Bombay.
Think he must have been following in his brothers (Henry Chadd C) footsteps
in joining the HEIC but for whatever reason, he evidently resigned and
returned to UK. I had wondered if he had transfered to the 47th Foot in
India but evidently not, as the Unit was sent out to the Crimea ex UK via
Malta in 1855.
The letters home ex Crimea by Peter & Julius Laurie I find fascinating,
personal accounts as to life in that campaign.
Not so sure that I agree with you about "the chaplain" that Julius Laurie
refers to, being being Alfred Cesswells father Stephen Reed Cattley. To my
knowledge he never was a chaplain but at the time of the Crimean campaign,
was the Vicar of Bagthorpe in N.W.Norfolk a far cry from being an army
chaplain with the 47th Foot outside Sevastibol!
Not sure what Alfred Cresswell did with himself following his shame in the
Crimea....the rest of his life is a bit of a blank other than he remained a
bachelor I think and landed up in Buchryus, Ohio where he died in 1893.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Tim: This must be a misprint and refer to Alfred Cresswell Cattley whose
appointment as Ensign with the 47th Foot dates from 12 March 1855 (Edinburgh
Gazette). This is the Stevan Catlay tree. He is not found in the 1857 Army
List so perhaps was invalided out. I cannot find his service records on
Findmypast. No wait, “I see that Ensign Cattley of the 47th has resigned his
commission. I am surprised to see that he shirks it. What will the
illustrious Chaplain say.” The chaplain no doubt is Alfred's father Rev.
Stephen Reed Cattley. This is from a letter sent by Julius Dyson Laurie on
14 August 1855. He added, “Please do not send my letter the rounds, as I
only write it for you & not for the world in general.” Wikileaks comes to
mind! Two weeks later, 27 August, Lieutenant Laurie wrote, “Whose tale was
that about Cattley of the 47th killing Russians & taking prisoners? I have
enquired & nothing of the sort has happened. I am sorry to see that he had
to resign his commission for being drunk on trenches (Dutch courage) but I
expect the story about the Russians was an effusion of his own.” Will this
do? Anthony
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Tim Cattley [felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk]
Sent: 01 December 2010 00:26
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Hello all,
The Crimean War 1855 :-
Asplin Military History Resources, Casualty Rolls, lists Ensign A.G.Cattley
of the 47th Regiment of Foot (Lancashires) as receiving a slight wound
during minor actions at Sebastopol on 12th July 1855.
Can anybody pin him to a known tree please?
Tim
Anthony, right up your street I would have thought!
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Thank's for the info re his date/year of resignation as being 6/3/1854.
So, he spent just four years with the India Navy (and no promotion from
midshipman) and then just six months with the 47th Regt of Foot as an ensign
with two resignations. If not a ditherer, then maybe a person disillusioned
and without a sense of purpose.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Tim: East India Register & Army List 1855 shows Midshipman Alfred Cresswell
Catley resigned from the Indian Navy in India on 6 March 1854. It was almost
exactly a year later that he was commissioned in the 47th Foot. Not sure
this makes him a ditherer. Anthony
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From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of
Tim Cattley [felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk]
Sent: 02 December 2010 15:30
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Thank you Anthony, a nice bit of detective work.....Erica/Joan/Ingrid will
no doubt be most interested in this subject.
Suppose that I should have considered Alfred Cresswell C as a possibility
but the penny did not drop! He looks to have been a bit of a ditherer and I
lost site of him going out to India : 20/01/1849 on the ship "Moozuffer" on
appointment to the India Navy Lists as a midshipman which I assume was part
of the HEIC (Honourable East India Company) and he is shown as stopping off
in Aden 17/02/1849 (see shipping note) enroute to Bombay.
Think he must have been following in his brothers (Henry Chadd C) footsteps
in joining the HEIC but for whatever reason, he evidently resigned and
returned to UK. I had wondered if he had transfered to the 47th Foot in
India but evidently not, as the Unit was sent out to the Crimea ex UK via
Malta in 1855.
The letters home ex Crimea by Peter & Julius Laurie I find fascinating,
personal accounts as to life in that campaign.
Not so sure that I agree with you about "the chaplain" that Julius Laurie
refers to, being being Alfred Cesswells father Stephen Reed Cattley. To my
knowledge he never was a chaplain but at the time of the Crimean campaign,
was the Vicar of Bagthorpe in N.W.Norfolk a far cry from being an army
chaplain with the 47th Foot outside Sevastibol!
Not sure what Alfred Cresswell did with himself following his shame in the
Crimea....the rest of his life is a bit of a blank other than he remained a
bachelor I think and landed up in Buchryus, Ohio where he died in 1893.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Tim: This must be a misprint and refer to Alfred Cresswell Cattley whose
appointment as Ensign with the 47th Foot dates from 12 March 1855 (Edinburgh
Gazette). This is the Stevan Catlay tree. He is not found in the 1857 Army
List so perhaps was invalided out. I cannot find his service records on
Findmypast. No wait, “I see that Ensign Cattley of the 47th has resigned his
commission. I am surprised to see that he shirks it. What will the
illustrious Chaplain say.” The chaplain no doubt is Alfred's father Rev.
Stephen Reed Cattley. This is from a letter sent by Julius Dyson Laurie on
14 August 1855. He added, “Please do not send my letter the rounds, as I
only write it for you & not for the world in general.” Wikileaks comes to
mind! Two weeks later, 27 August, Lieutenant Laurie wrote, “Whose tale was
that about Cattley of the 47th killing Russians & taking prisoners? I have
enquired & nothing of the sort has happened. I am sorry to see that he had
to resign his commission for being drunk on trenches (Dutch courage) but I
expect the story about the Russians was an effusion of his own.” Will this
do? Anthony
________________________________________
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Tim Cattley [felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk]
Sent: 01 December 2010 00:26
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Hello all,
The Crimean War 1855 :-
Asplin Military History Resources, Casualty Rolls, lists Ensign A.G.Cattley
of the 47th Regiment of Foot (Lancashires) as receiving a slight wound
during minor actions at Sebastopol on 12th July 1855.
Can anybody pin him to a known tree please?
Tim
Anthony, right up your street I would have thought!
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Tim: As others have reported National Probate Calendar confirms he died Bucyrus Ohio on 19 January 1881 and that administration of the estate (£449 4s. 7d.) was granted to Mary Frances Cattley of Egdean, Pulborough, Sussex, spinster, the sister and one of the next of kin. It throws no light on his occupation in Ohio. However, if the link survives transmission you will find an engraving of his house, "Pleasant Home" in Chatfield Township. Anthony
http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/63677/W+C++Lemert++Pleasant+Home++...
________________________________________
From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim Cattley [felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk]
Sent: 02 December 2010 15:30
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Thank you Anthony, a nice bit of detective work.....Erica/Joan/Ingrid will
no doubt be most interested in this subject.
Suppose that I should have considered Alfred Cresswell C as a possibility
but the penny did not drop! He looks to have been a bit of a ditherer and I
lost site of him going out to India : 20/01/1849 on the ship "Moozuffer" on
appointment to the India Navy Lists as a midshipman which I assume was part
of the HEIC (Honourable East India Company) and he is shown as stopping off
in Aden 17/02/1849 (see shipping note) enroute to Bombay.
Think he must have been following in his brothers (Henry Chadd C) footsteps
in joining the HEIC but for whatever reason, he evidently resigned and
returned to UK. I had wondered if he had transfered to the 47th Foot in
India but evidently not, as the Unit was sent out to the Crimea ex UK via
Malta in 1855.
The letters home ex Crimea by Peter & Julius Laurie I find fascinating,
personal accounts as to life in that campaign.
Not so sure that I agree with you about "the chaplain" that Julius Laurie
refers to, being being Alfred Cesswells father Stephen Reed Cattley. To my
knowledge he never was a chaplain but at the time of the Crimean campaign,
was the Vicar of Bagthorpe in N.W.Norfolk a far cry from being an army
chaplain with the 47th Foot outside Sevastibol!
Not sure what Alfred Cresswell did with himself following his shame in the
Crimea....the rest of his life is a bit of a blank other than he remained a
bachelor I think and landed up in Buchryus, Ohio where he died in 1893.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Tim: This must be a misprint and refer to Alfred Cresswell Cattley whose
appointment as Ensign with the 47th Foot dates from 12 March 1855 (Edinburgh
Gazette). This is the Stevan Catlay tree. He is not found in the 1857 Army
List so perhaps was invalided out. I cannot find his service records on
Findmypast. No wait, “I see that Ensign Cattley of the 47th has resigned his
commission. I am surprised to see that he shirks it. What will the
illustrious Chaplain say.” The chaplain no doubt is Alfred's father Rev.
Stephen Reed Cattley. This is from a letter sent by Julius Dyson Laurie on
14 August 1855. He added, “Please do not send my letter the rounds, as I
only write it for you & not for the world in general.” Wikileaks comes to
mind! Two weeks later, 27 August, Lieutenant Laurie wrote, “Whose tale was
that about Cattley of the 47th killing Russians & taking prisoners? I have
enquired & nothing of the sort has happened. I am sorry to see that he had
to resign his commission for being drunk on trenches (Dutch courage) but I
expect the story about the Russians was an effusion of his own.” Will this
do? Anthony
________________________________________
From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of
Tim Cattley [felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk]
Sent: 01 December 2010 00:26
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Hello all,
The Crimean War 1855 :-
Asplin Military History Resources, Casualty Rolls, lists Ensign A.G.Cattley
of the 47th Regiment of Foot (Lancashires) as receiving a slight wound
during minor actions at Sebastopol on 12th July 1855.
Can anybody pin him to a known tree please?
Tim
Anthony, right up your street I would have thought!
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Tim: East India Register & Army List 1855 shows Midshipman Alfred Cresswell Catley resigned from the Indian Navy in India on 6 March 1854. It was almost exactly a year later that he was commissioned in the 47th Foot. Not sure this makes him a ditherer. Anthony
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From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim Cattley [felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk]
Sent: 02 December 2010 15:30
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Thank you Anthony, a nice bit of detective work.....Erica/Joan/Ingrid will
no doubt be most interested in this subject.
Suppose that I should have considered Alfred Cresswell C as a possibility
but the penny did not drop! He looks to have been a bit of a ditherer and I
lost site of him going out to India : 20/01/1849 on the ship "Moozuffer" on
appointment to the India Navy Lists as a midshipman which I assume was part
of the HEIC (Honourable East India Company) and he is shown as stopping off
in Aden 17/02/1849 (see shipping note) enroute to Bombay.
Think he must have been following in his brothers (Henry Chadd C) footsteps
in joining the HEIC but for whatever reason, he evidently resigned and
returned to UK. I had wondered if he had transfered to the 47th Foot in
India but evidently not, as the Unit was sent out to the Crimea ex UK via
Malta in 1855.
The letters home ex Crimea by Peter & Julius Laurie I find fascinating,
personal accounts as to life in that campaign.
Not so sure that I agree with you about "the chaplain" that Julius Laurie
refers to, being being Alfred Cesswells father Stephen Reed Cattley. To my
knowledge he never was a chaplain but at the time of the Crimean campaign,
was the Vicar of Bagthorpe in N.W.Norfolk a far cry from being an army
chaplain with the 47th Foot outside Sevastibol!
Not sure what Alfred Cresswell did with himself following his shame in the
Crimea....the rest of his life is a bit of a blank other than he remained a
bachelor I think and landed up in Buchryus, Ohio where he died in 1893.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Tim: This must be a misprint and refer to Alfred Cresswell Cattley whose
appointment as Ensign with the 47th Foot dates from 12 March 1855 (Edinburgh
Gazette). This is the Stevan Catlay tree. He is not found in the 1857 Army
List so perhaps was invalided out. I cannot find his service records on
Findmypast. No wait, “I see that Ensign Cattley of the 47th has resigned his
commission. I am surprised to see that he shirks it. What will the
illustrious Chaplain say.” The chaplain no doubt is Alfred's father Rev.
Stephen Reed Cattley. This is from a letter sent by Julius Dyson Laurie on
14 August 1855. He added, “Please do not send my letter the rounds, as I
only write it for you & not for the world in general.” Wikileaks comes to
mind! Two weeks later, 27 August, Lieutenant Laurie wrote, “Whose tale was
that about Cattley of the 47th killing Russians & taking prisoners? I have
enquired & nothing of the sort has happened. I am sorry to see that he had
to resign his commission for being drunk on trenches (Dutch courage) but I
expect the story about the Russians was an effusion of his own.” Will this
do? Anthony
________________________________________
From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of
Tim Cattley [felis(a)mypostoffice.co.uk]
Sent: 01 December 2010 00:26
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Hello all,
The Crimean War 1855 :-
Asplin Military History Resources, Casualty Rolls, lists Ensign A.G.Cattley
of the 47th Regiment of Foot (Lancashires) as receiving a slight wound
during minor actions at Sebastopol on 12th July 1855.
Can anybody pin him to a known tree please?
Tim
Anthony, right up your street I would have thought!
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Tim: This must be a misprint and refer to Alfred Cresswell Cattley whose appointment as Ensign with the 47th Foot dates from 12 March 1855 (Edinburgh Gazette). This is the Stevan Catlay tree. He is not found in the 1857 Army List so perhaps was invalided out. I cannot find his service records on Findmypast. No wait, “I see that Ensign Cattley of the 47th has resigned his commission. I am surprised to see that he shirks it. What will the illustrious Chaplain say.” The chaplain no doubt is Alfred's father Rev. Stephen Reed Cattley. This is from a letter sent by Julius Dyson Laurie on 14 August 1855. He added, “Please do not send my letter the rounds, as I only write it for you & not for the world in general.” Wikileaks comes to mind! Two weeks later, 27 August, Lieutenant Laurie wrote, “Whose tale was that about Cattley of the 47th killing Russians & taking prisoners? I have enquired & nothing of the sort has happened. I am sorry to see that he had to resign his commission!
for being drunk on trenches (Dutch courage) but I expect the story about the Russians was an effusion of his own.” Will this do? Anthony
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Sent: 01 December 2010 00:26
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: [CATLEY] Ensign A.G.Cattley, 47th Foot.
Hello all,
The Crimean War 1855 :-
Asplin Military History Resources, Casualty Rolls, lists Ensign A.G.Cattley of the 47th Regiment of Foot (Lancashires) as receiving a slight wound during minor actions at Sebastopol on 12th July 1855.
Can anybody pin him to a known tree please?
Tim
Anthony, right up your street I would have thought!
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Erica / Joan / Ingrid
If you want a good photo of the stain glass window in Worcester Cathedral commissioned by Hon Canon Richard Cattley as a memorial to his wife and son (Harriett Emma [nee Hulton] and Richard Thomas D'arcy) then try the following :- www.geograph.org.uk/photo/487329
Richard (1820-1903) was the youngest child of Thomas (1784-1824) who was Sheriff of York in 1816.
Tim
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