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Hi Tim- I don't have a Marion Catley in my tree(yet)- and I did previously go through and check out that we had covered all the BL, FIBIS and IGI listed India based Catleys. If they were not part of the Leonard Catley (subset of Emery) then I would not have recorded them.
I will check the micrifilm when I am next at BL (poss tomorrow!) but it is a registry office listing and they often don't give any info on parents)
However you have aroused my curiosity as I have a marriage in 1887 between a Charles Michaelson and a Mary Ann Roddle.- Charles was Mary Anns second husband - the first being George Jesse Catley - one of Leonard Catley's sons! You would think there must be some connection to your Marion.
Nigel
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Cattley
To: Nigel Butterfield
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 5:41 PM
Subject: Catleys in India (Emery of MSN tree)
Hello Nigel,
David kindly sent me this lead re N/A's probably unaware that you have already sent me your India data.
As far as I can see everything checks out on it but then I suppose it should do, because I think you obtained your data from the same source?
However, I note a Marian Catley m Charles Michaelson 1886-1890 period who seems not to feature in your tree, do you have any leads here?
Regards
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: David Meredith
To: Tim Cattley
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:44 PM
Subject: Fw: [CATLEY] Cat*ley "Which Tree" database
Afternoon Tim,
If the item below is new to you, then it is well worth a visit.
There are 21 Catleys and 2 Cattleys on file.
David
http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/Home.aspx
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Just to keep you all tuned to my progress in developing an "All Catley/Cattley" database:-
Now have progressed to the point of having 8,800 individual events of Cat*ley birth/marriage/death identified between 1550 and 2005 but still have some way to go to achieve full coverage.
I think the final figure is now likely to top 10,000 events.
Examination of GRO BMD's for 1900-2005 shows clearly that our knowledge of "current" Cat*ley trees is poor and that the Catley Listers work only account for about 50% of the total, albeit that this involves 24 different trees identified so far!
So, there looks to be a big untapped source of "unknowns" out there which invite researching but made more difficult by the sub One Hundred Year Rule and the fact that members of these branches//trees are clearly uninterested in their genealogy, as if they were, they would surely have found us by now?
Once I have loaded all the BMD's, it will be possible to analyse and hopefully identify more "run's" of trees but in the meantime I would appreciate any bits and bobs of additional information that any of you are holding that may have come your way. This also includes any leads you may be able to pass on to me concerning other non Lister Cat*leys you may have come across.
John Catley for example, has had contact with a member of another Midlands based Catley tree which may not be covered by the William of Aston line.
So: any information like John's would be most useful to self/Liz/Kay and we would welcome any input.
The final objective is full knowledge of the Catley tree development not just here in the UK ,but internationally as well.
I am not convinced for example that we have a full grasp of Cat*ley trees in the USA.
Tim.
Hi there All,
This might be of use to some. I have had a look and find it a bit hard to
navigate in places.
Regards
Jocelyn
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Hi All
For those of you who do not know about Google books.
www.google.ca/bookswww.books.google.co.uk
Just punch in Catley or Cattley in the search area and you will be amazed at how many books feature the name Catley/Cattley. It only shows extracts from the books but will give you the author etc if your interested in looking at your local library.
Liz
Hi tim , i added all Thomas info to it , he served 9mths in jail on the sheet i had but not were it was or any other info . its fun.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Cattley
To: catley @rootsweb
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 6:28 AM
Subject: [CATLEY] Bengal Merchanters
Hi Bernie,
You may already know all this but as you have said nothing to the rest of us Listers, I have to assume that you do not. If I have it wrong, then my apologies.
Whilst rooting about on the web looking for tea clipper and wool clipper sailing ships, I came across ref's to The Bengal Merchant which then took me to the website of Val Zilco who's ancestor was Transported to NSW ex UK also on The Bengal Merchant.
There is a lively discussion group on Val's site, all from descendants of people who were Transported on The Bengal Merchant who Val calls The Bengal Merchanteers. If you have not checked in to this site, then you really should.
the ref is:- www.bengalanmine.com
Whilst then looking for a picture of the ship I found www.southeast.com.au/~glennz/mcgarry.html which was supposed to provide a painting but instead it threw up a Rootsweb thread concerning more descendants of persons Transported on her.
Hope this helps
Tim
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Hi Tim , no i didn't know about that thanks . Bernie
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Cattley
To: catley @rootsweb
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 6:28 AM
Subject: [CATLEY] Bengal Merchanters
Hi Bernie,
You may already know all this but as you have said nothing to the rest of us Listers, I have to assume that you do not. If I have it wrong, then my apologies.
Whilst rooting about on the web looking for tea clipper and wool clipper sailing ships, I came across ref's to The Bengal Merchant which then took me to the website of Val Zilco who's ancestor was Transported to NSW ex UK also on The Bengal Merchant.
There is a lively discussion group on Val's site, all from descendants of people who were Transported on The Bengal Merchant who Val calls The Bengal Merchanteers. If you have not checked in to this site, then you really should.
the ref is:- www.bengalanmine.com
Whilst then looking for a picture of the ship I found www.southeast.com.au/~glennz/mcgarry.html which was supposed to provide a painting but instead it threw up a Rootsweb thread concerning more descendants of persons Transported on her.
Hope this helps
Tim
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Hi Bernie,
You may already know all this but as you have said nothing to the rest of us Listers, I have to assume that you do not. If I have it wrong, then my apologies.
Whilst rooting about on the web looking for tea clipper and wool clipper sailing ships, I came across ref's to The Bengal Merchant which then took me to the website of Val Zilco who's ancestor was Transported to NSW ex UK also on The Bengal Merchant.
There is a lively discussion group on Val's site, all from descendants of people who were Transported on The Bengal Merchant who Val calls The Bengal Merchanteers. If you have not checked in to this site, then you really should.
the ref is:- www.bengalanmine.com
Whilst then looking for a picture of the ship I found www.southeast.com.au/~glennz/mcgarry.html which was supposed to provide a painting but instead it threw up a Rootsweb thread concerning more descendants of persons Transported on her.
Hope this helps
Tim
Hi Bernie,
I don't know if you knew any of this below. I am going to look at the 41 census to see if I can find George and John. Maybe if they where in the same town together it might help narrow things down a bit.
Liz
----- Original Message -----
From: Archives
To: 'lizcordingley'
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: Quarter Sessions
Dear Liz Cordingley,
Thankyou for your query. I have had a look at the quarter sessions minutes for Bath, and have found an entry for Thomas Catley who was convicted on the 28th October 1837. The Bath quarter sessions record that he was sentenced to be "Transported for 10 years". They also read "Stealing/ after a former conviction/ one pair of trousers val[ue] 20s goods of John Turner. 2nd C[?] without former conviction. 3rd C[?] property of George Hurd." We are not sure that the "C[?]" represents, but it probably represents "count" i.e. charges against him. Unfortunately, we do not have quarter sessions before 1837. The 28th Oct 1837 is the only conviction on our records, so any other convictions were probably 1836 or earlier.
I also searched indexes which we hold to baptisms in the parishes of Bath Abbey (1801-1840), St James (1813-1840), St Michael (1813-1840) but could find entries for the name Catleys.
I can also search a wider area to cover baptism records of Walcot, Bathwick, Batheaston, Bathampton and outlying villages (remembering the Midsomer Norton Catley's are no relation). However, this would take longer than the brief search I conducted above, and so we would require a fee. We charge £24 an hour with a minimum spend of £12 an hour. Unfortunately, we can only accept £ Sterling by cash or cheque drawn from a UK bank.
I hope the information I have provided is useful. If you would like me to carry out the further research outlined above, do let me know.
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From: lizcordingley [mailto:lizcordingley@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: 02 July 2009 21:59
To: Archives
Subject: Quarter Sessions
Hello,
I need some advice on where to search. I have a Thomas Catley that was convicted on the 26/10/1837 at the quarter sessions Bath. He was transported on the Bengal Merchant which left for Australia on 24/3/1838. He was convicted for 10 years but stayed in NSW where he eventually married. Records in Australia show that he was caught 3 times for stealing and that he was aged 19 when sentenced. I am trying to find out if he actually came from Bath or elsewhere. Records show that his father was also called Thomas. Basically I have hit the brick wall!!!!!!! As he had been accused of stealing before would there be records of this? From conviction to transportation where would he have been held? One thing I do know is that he is not related to the Midsomer Norton Catley's.
Any help on where to look is much appreciated.
Regards
Liz
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Hi there Tim,
Yes, you are right and could see this too (for those you can't see in the
map, 1&2 are DNA matched, but not to 3&4, and maybe its cooincidence they
are in the same general area. Maybe the Rivers Trent and Ouse/Humber were
natural geological barriers. I was up that way years ago visiting a friend
of mind and always remember the size the rivers.
The map certainly shows geographical location plays a part in DNA
relatedness, but not always as with the Somerset and London locations and to
some extent with those in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire. So as you say, a few
more DNA test results would be very useful.
Regards
Jocelyn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Cattley" <communicat(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Catley/Cattley tree locations
> Hi Jocelyn,
>
> Nice job, well done.
>
> Your map shows very clearly just how close the Lincolnshire and Yorkshire
> trees are by way of geographical proximity and one would assume from this
> that there was every chance that way back in time, they should surely, be
> related?
>
> However, the dna tests prove otherwise, that the Lincolnshire ones are
> probably of Nordic origin whilst the Yorkshire ones are possibly from
> Holland/Belgium.
>
> We really do need some more dna input especially those London and Essex
> Catleys.
>
> Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bert and Jocelyn Prvanov" <prvanov(a)xtra.co.nz>
> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:39 AM
> Subject: [CATLEY] Catley/Cattley tree locations
>
>
> > Hi there All,
> > I have finally figured how to get this map to you all. I have put on my
> > son's website http://danprv.webs.com/apps/photos/ Click or double on the
> > picture at the bottom of the page. You should be able to see that the
> > Cat*leys are generally grouped with a few outlyers- hope I have got them
> > all
> > right. The numbers on the page correspond to Tim's Cat*ley lines at the
> > bottom of this email. I have colour coded the DNA matches but some
> > haven't
> > come out very well (3&4). Those numbers with only one colour are those
> > with
> > no DNA match. An uncoloured number means that no DNA test has been done.
I
> > personally think this map is quite interesting !
> >
> > Thanks to those who have helped me sort out the ones with multiple
> > locations.
> >
> > Regards
> > Jocelyn
> >
> >> Here is an update for you on progress:-
> >>
> >> Tree Title Lister (or contact)
> > DNA test result
> >>
> >> 1.William of Kirton Dave M + John C
> > match with Thomas of Ashby
> >>
> >> 2. Thomas of Ashby Liz C + Dave M
> > match with William of Kirton
> >>
> >> 3. Stevan of Normanton Tim C
> > match with Edmund of Bilton
> >>
> >> 4. Edmund of Bilton (John David C)
> > match with Stevan of Normanton
> >>
> >> 5. James of Barley Sharon W + Elaine N +
> > Mick C match with Joseph of Melbourn + John of Sawston
> >>
> >> 6. Joseph of Melbourn Lynda P
> > match with James of Barley + John of Sawston
> >>
> >> 7. John of Sawston Allen C
> > match with James of Barley + Joseph of Melbourn
> >>
> >> 8. Emery of Midsomer Norton Glynis B
> > test result = no other matches
> >>
> >> 9. John of Hackney Jocelyn P + Anne N
> > test result = no other matches
> >>
> >> 10. Charles of Greenwich Alan C
> > test result = no other matches
> >>
> >> 11. John of Leeds Kay H
> > no test done
> >>
> >> 12. Stephen of Ackworth no lister
> > no test done
> >>
> >> 13. Robert of Garforth no lister
> > no test done
> >>
> >> 14. Thomas of Escrick Peter S
> > no test done
> >>
> >> 15. Thomas of Bath Bernie
> > test results due now
> >>
> >> 16. Thomas of Midsomer Norton Jann Parks
> > no test done
> >>
> >> 17. Samuel of Halstead Merv D
> > no test done
> >>
> >> 18. William of Aston (Jenna C)
> > no test done
> >>
> >> 19. William of Wheathamstead Anthony C
> > no test done
> >>
> >> 20. Joseph of Cuddington Chris N
> > no test done
> >>
> >> 21. James Charles of Halstead Derek M
> > no test done
> >>
> >> 22. William of Farndon no lister
> > no test done
> >>
> >> 23. Henry of Cucklington no lister
> > no test done
> >>
> >> 24. Joseph of Walkeringham no lister
> > no test done
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Hi Jocelyn,
Nice job, well done.
Your map shows very clearly just how close the Lincolnshire and Yorkshire
trees are by way of geographical proximity and one would assume from this
that there was every chance that way back in time, they should surely, be
related?
However, the dna tests prove otherwise, that the Lincolnshire ones are
probably of Nordic origin whilst the Yorkshire ones are possibly from
Holland/Belgium.
We really do need some more dna input especially those London and Essex
Catleys.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bert and Jocelyn Prvanov" <prvanov(a)xtra.co.nz>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:39 AM
Subject: [CATLEY] Catley/Cattley tree locations
> Hi there All,
> I have finally figured how to get this map to you all. I have put on my
> son's website http://danprv.webs.com/apps/photos/ Click or double on the
> picture at the bottom of the page. You should be able to see that the
> Cat*leys are generally grouped with a few outlyers- hope I have got them
> all
> right. The numbers on the page correspond to Tim's Cat*ley lines at the
> bottom of this email. I have colour coded the DNA matches but some
> haven't
> come out very well (3&4). Those numbers with only one colour are those
> with
> no DNA match. An uncoloured number means that no DNA test has been done. I
> personally think this map is quite interesting !
>
> Thanks to those who have helped me sort out the ones with multiple
> locations.
>
> Regards
> Jocelyn
>
>> Here is an update for you on progress:-
>>
>> Tree Title Lister (or contact)
> DNA test result
>>
>> 1.William of Kirton Dave M + John C
> match with Thomas of Ashby
>>
>> 2. Thomas of Ashby Liz C + Dave M
> match with William of Kirton
>>
>> 3. Stevan of Normanton Tim C
> match with Edmund of Bilton
>>
>> 4. Edmund of Bilton (John David C)
> match with Stevan of Normanton
>>
>> 5. James of Barley Sharon W + Elaine N +
> Mick C match with Joseph of Melbourn + John of Sawston
>>
>> 6. Joseph of Melbourn Lynda P
> match with James of Barley + John of Sawston
>>
>> 7. John of Sawston Allen C
> match with James of Barley + Joseph of Melbourn
>>
>> 8. Emery of Midsomer Norton Glynis B
> test result = no other matches
>>
>> 9. John of Hackney Jocelyn P + Anne N
> test result = no other matches
>>
>> 10. Charles of Greenwich Alan C
> test result = no other matches
>>
>> 11. John of Leeds Kay H
> no test done
>>
>> 12. Stephen of Ackworth no lister
> no test done
>>
>> 13. Robert of Garforth no lister
> no test done
>>
>> 14. Thomas of Escrick Peter S
> no test done
>>
>> 15. Thomas of Bath Bernie
> test results due now
>>
>> 16. Thomas of Midsomer Norton Jann Parks
> no test done
>>
>> 17. Samuel of Halstead Merv D
> no test done
>>
>> 18. William of Aston (Jenna C)
> no test done
>>
>> 19. William of Wheathamstead Anthony C
> no test done
>>
>> 20. Joseph of Cuddington Chris N
> no test done
>>
>> 21. James Charles of Halstead Derek M
> no test done
>>
>> 22. William of Farndon no lister
> no test done
>>
>> 23. Henry of Cucklington no lister
> no test done
>>
>> 24. Joseph of Walkeringham no lister
> no test done
>
>
>
>
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You can see photographs from our meeting at The Trout on 7 June at :
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Go back to "Index" on the page if you wish to see last year's
pictures which are Chris Newell's site.
Cheers
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Hi there All,
I have finally figured how to get this map to you all. I have put on my son's website http://danprv.webs.com/apps/photos/ Click or double on the picture at the bottom of the page. You should be able to see that the Cat*leys are generally grouped with a few outlyers- hope I have got them all right. The numbers on the page correspond to Tim's Cat*ley lines at the bottom of this email. I have colour coded the DNA matches but some haven't come out very well (3&4). Those numbers with only one colour are those with no DNA match. An uncoloured number means that no DNA test has been done. I personally think this map is quite interesting !
Thanks to those who have helped me sort out the ones with multiple locations.
Regards
Jocelyn
> Here is an update for you on progress:-
>
> Tree Title Lister (or contact)
DNA test result
>
> 1.William of Kirton Dave M + John C
match with Thomas of Ashby
>
> 2. Thomas of Ashby Liz C + Dave M
match with William of Kirton
>
> 3. Stevan of Normanton Tim C
match with Edmund of Bilton
>
> 4. Edmund of Bilton (John David C)
match with Stevan of Normanton
>
> 5. James of Barley Sharon W + Elaine N +
Mick C match with Joseph of Melbourn + John of Sawston
>
> 6. Joseph of Melbourn Lynda P
match with James of Barley + John of Sawston
>
> 7. John of Sawston Allen C
match with James of Barley + Joseph of Melbourn
>
> 8. Emery of Midsomer Norton Glynis B
test result = no other matches
>
> 9. John of Hackney Jocelyn P + Anne N
test result = no other matches
>
> 10. Charles of Greenwich Alan C
test result = no other matches
>
> 11. John of Leeds Kay H
no test done
>
> 12. Stephen of Ackworth no lister
no test done
>
> 13. Robert of Garforth no lister
no test done
>
> 14. Thomas of Escrick Peter S
no test done
>
> 15. Thomas of Bath Bernie
test results due now
>
> 16. Thomas of Midsomer Norton Jann Parks
no test done
>
> 17. Samuel of Halstead Merv D
no test done
>
> 18. William of Aston (Jenna C)
no test done
>
> 19. William of Wheathamstead Anthony C
no test done
>
> 20. Joseph of Cuddington Chris N
no test done
>
> 21. James Charles of Halstead Derek M
no test done
>
> 22. William of Farndon no lister
no test done
>
> 23. Henry of Cucklington no lister
no test done
>
> 24. Joseph of Walkeringham no lister
no test done
No thats all we got from the Library - Bernie
----- Original Message -----
From: "lizcordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Thomas of Bath
> Hi Bernie,
> Do you have any other information apart from what you have when he was in
> NSW.
> Liz
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bernie" <catley(a)tadaust.org.au>
> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Thomas of Bath
>
>
>> Thomas was caught stealing 3 times the 3rd sent to Australia -
>> Bernie-----
>> Original Message -----
>> From: "lizcordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
>> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:43 PM
>> Subject: [CATLEY] Thomas of Bath
>>
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I have sent an email to the Somerset Archives asking if they hold any
>>> information with regards to Thomas. As he was convicted 26/10/1837 they
>>> must have prison records before he was actually deported on 24/3/1838.
>>> They might be able to say what crime he committed and maybe give an area
>>> of where he was from. Fingers Crossed.
>>> Liz
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Thomas was caught stealing 3 times the 3rd sent to Australia - Bernie-----
Original Message -----
From: "lizcordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:43 PM
Subject: [CATLEY] Thomas of Bath
> Hi All,
> I have sent an email to the Somerset Archives asking if they hold any
> information with regards to Thomas. As he was convicted 26/10/1837 they
> must have prison records before he was actually deported on 24/3/1838.
> They might be able to say what crime he committed and maybe give an area
> of where he was from. Fingers Crossed.
> Liz
>
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Hi there Tim,
I am trying to plot the tree title locations below on a map of England, but
rather than make assumptions, Tim, I was wondering if you are able to please
let me know which county (and where necessary the district) the following
are in, as there are at least 2 locations for these places:
Kirton - 2 in Lincolnshire (which district ?), (1 in Suffolk)
Ashby - 3 in Lincolnshire (which district ?), (1 in Northamptonshire)
Aston - a choice of 7 but assume this is Birmingham ?
Wheathamstead - couldn't find this - should it be Wheathampstead ?
Cuddington - Buckinghamshire or Cheshire
Those I have mapped are in 3 or 4 general groups, some are DNA matched, some
are not. I do realise though, that there is no doubt other lines that have
no listers who are not on the list below.
Thanks
Jocelyn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Cattley" <communicat(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
To: "catley @rootsweb" <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:46 PM
Subject: [CATLEY] Catley/Cattley "Which Tree" list
> Here is an update for you on progress:-
>
> Tree Title Lister (or contact)
DNA test result
>
> William of Kirton Dave M + John C
match with Thomas of Ashby
>
> Thomas of Ashby Liz C + Dave M
match with William of Kirton
>
> Stevan of Normanton Tim C
match with Edmund of Bilton
>
> Edmund of Bilton (John David C)
match with Stevan of Normanton
>
> James of Barley Sharon W + Elaine N + Mick C
match with Joseph of Melbourn + John of Sawston
>
> Joseph of Melbourn Lynda P
match with James of Barley + John of Sawston
>
> John of Sawston Allen C
match with James of Barley + Joseph of Melbourn
>
> Emery of Midsomer Norton Glynis B
test result = no other matches
>
> John of Hackney Jocelyn P + Anne N
test result = no other matches
>
> Charles of Greenwich Alan C
test result = no other matches
>
> John of Leeds Kay H
no test done
>
> Stephen of Ackworth no lister
no test done
>
> Robert of Garforth no lister
no test done
>
> Thomas of Escrick Peter S
no test done
>
> Thomas of Bath Bernie
test results due now
>
> Thomas of Midsomer Norton Jann Parks
no test done
>
> Samuel of Halstead Merv D
no test done
>
> William of Aston (Jenna C)
no test done
>
> William of Wheathamstead Anthony C
no test done
>
> Joseph of Cuddington Chris N
no test done
>
> James Charles of Halstead Derek M
no test done
>
> William of Farndon no lister
no test done
>
> Henry of Cucklington no lister
no test done
>
> Joseph of Walkeringham no lister
no test done
>
> Thus we have resolved 24 trees so far and by dna tests have been able
match seven of them into three distinct dna tree groups. There are three
further trees tested who have no dna match, thus so far, we have a total of
six different Catley sets of dna with Bernie's Thomas of Bath results now
imminent.
>
> How many more untapped trees are out there? Liz is working away on this
one but progress is slow.
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
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Here is an update for you on progress:-
Tree Title Lister (or contact) DNA test result
William of Kirton Dave M + John C match with Thomas of Ashby
Thomas of Ashby Liz C + Dave M match with William of Kirton
Stevan of Normanton Tim C match with Edmund of Bilton
Edmund of Bilton (John David C) match with Stevan of Normanton
James of Barley Sharon W + Elaine N + Mick C match with Joseph of Melbourn + John of Sawston
Joseph of Melbourn Lynda P match with James of Barley + John of Sawston
John of Sawston Allen C match with James of Barley + Joseph of Melbourn
Emery of Midsomer Norton Glynis B test result = no other matches
John of Hackney Jocelyn P + Anne N test result = no other matches
Charles of Greenwich Alan C test result = no other matches
John of Leeds Kay H no test done
Stephen of Ackworth no lister no test done
Robert of Garforth no lister no test done
Thomas of Escrick Peter S no test done
Thomas of Bath Bernie test results due now
Thomas of Midsomer Norton Jann Parks no test done
Samuel of Halstead Merv D no test done
William of Aston (Jenna C) no test done
William of Wheathamstead Anthony C no test done
Joseph of Cuddington Chris N no test done
James Charles of Halstead Derek M no test done
William of Farndon no lister no test done
Henry of Cucklington no lister no test done
Joseph of Walkeringham no lister no test done
Thus we have resolved 24 trees so far and by dna tests have been able match seven of them into three distinct dna tree groups. There are three further trees tested who have no dna match, thus so far, we have a total of six different Catley sets of dna with Bernie's Thomas of Bath results now imminent.
How many more untapped trees are out there? Liz is working away on this one but progress is slow.
Regards
Tim