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Hi there Tim,
I am pleased you could make sense of my tree. Its fine that you didn't
include the distaffs. They are there for completeness. As you would have
noticed this line tends to be dominated by girls so without them there would
be some big holes.
Will be very interesting if a few more lines can be joined up.
Over time I wonder how many names have deviated from the Cat*ley format. I
see that in the 100% 12 marker matches list I got which of course includes
your name, there are also two Catlins, a Cady and a Cantley. Have not
investigated any of these yet, but unfortunately the latter two don't have
email contacts.
The Mt Erebus crash was a black day in NZ history.
Jocelyn
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Behalf Of Tim Cattley
Sent: Sunday, 10 May 2009 10:59 a.m.
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: [CATLEY] NZ Catleys
Hi Jocelyn (+ Anne)
Have just finished inputting your John Catley of Hackney 1803 data into the
"Which Tree" Database.
Congratulations on such a well searched and presented Tree, it was a
pleasure to process. My only sorrow is that I could not use all the grand
distaff information you presented but you will understand that I must stick
with the Catley theme on what is a Catley site?
That said: please do tell me the circumstances behind the two distaff
brothers who died on the same day near Scott Base Antarctica?
Scott Base is in NZ possession as far as I am aware, which explains their
presence and I assume they were part of a climbing party or some such team
which met with some accident or other?
As for matters dna............ have now entered your tree into the database
with the same code as the Edmund of Bilton and the Stevan of Normanton
trees, as of course we have matching dna for all three.
I now have nearly 6000 Catley bmd events logged and my maths tells me that
"our dna" accounts for about 15% of the total for the period 1581-1900.
That is for just one Yorkshire based line.
So far, I think we have five different Catley dna groups running on test but
the results from Bernie et al may push this figure up a notch or two. We
will see.
Cheers
Tim
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Hello Liz,
I am happy to have what anybody can throw at me, if I already have it, no
problem but better safe than sorry.
Anything Canada related (less what Jasnet+Glynis are refering to currently)
would be much appreciated.
Lambeth/Peckham:- yes please, I have the GRO entries of course but have no
info that strings families together over the generations.
Tim
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From: "lizcordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Archives Network of Alberta Display
> Hi Tim
> I have Catley's in Canada but the early 1800's. I also have Catley's in
> the
> Lambeth Peckham area, do you need to know who they are or have you already
> got that.
> Liz
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Archives Network of Alberta Display
>
>
>> Hi Tim
>>
>> The much neglected William of Wheathampstead branch is well represented
>> in
>> Canada. Naomi Catley's grandson William Frederick Ansell went to Moose
>> Jaw, Saskatchewan in 1911 and his wife, two small children and brother
>> Vincent went over the following year. Although Vincent fought with the
>> Canadians in WWI, he eventually returned to the UK. However, William and
>> May had 4 more children and their descendants are to be found in Ontario
>> and Nova Scotia as well as Saskatchewan.
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of Tim Cattley
>> Sent: Sun 10-05-2009 13:27
>> To: catley(a)rootsweb.com; Catley List
>> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Archives Network of Alberta Display
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Glynis,
>>
>> Apart from yourself, there seems to have been little communication on
>> List
>> about the various Canadian Cat*ley branches and emigrations and whereas
>> there is plenty of interest in the Antipodes, Canada does not appear to
>> have
>> come under much scrutiny except by Liz who gets everywhere!
>>
>> I do not have the search resources of other Listers but looking at the
>> Catley GRO births for 4/4 1886 suggests to me that the subject here is
>> Sidney Charles.W.Catley husband of Elaine.M.Catley who kept the diary.
>>
>> The clues in her journal show regular visits to friends+family in Ealing,
>> Richmond & Peckham prior to emigration and interestingly, I note that
>> from
>> GRO that Sidneys birth Reg Dist was Lambeth which is close to Peckham.
>>
>> Furthermore, I not a "run of Catley births" in the Lambeth area in the
>> 1870's/80's which I have not got attached to any currently known
>> tree....................Liz!?
>>
>> Can you match Sidney+Elaine (Calgary) with any current Catleys in Canada?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Glynis Brown" <glynisb(a)shaw.ca>
>> To: "Catley List" <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 9:05 PM
>> Subject: [CATLEY] Archives Network of Alberta Display
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> In wondering the web the other day I can across this site with the diary
>>> if
>>> Elaine Catley from 1920. It shows some insight into the transition from
>>> UK
>>> to Canada and certainly be of interest to those researching the branch
>>> of
>>> the family.
>>>
>>> Glynis
>>>
>>>> http://asalive.archivesalberta.org:8080/access/asa/documents/display/GLEN-73
>>>>
>>>
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Hi Glynis,
Thank you for the reminder. Did you ever manage to find when Mark married
Eleanor, I don't have it recorded on my GRO Catley list.
Your Saskatchwan "Catley pocket" indicates that either/both William
Norman//George Henry married and the line continues..........have you
details and if not, are they obtainable?
Tim
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From: "Glynis Brown" <glynisb(a)shaw.ca>
To: "Catley List" <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: [CATLEY] Saskatchewan Catleys
> Hi:
>
> I would remind everyone that Mark Catley (B 1844 in Midsomer Norton) son
> of Francis & Louisa and his sister Charity (b 1852 in Midsomer Norton)
> both emigrated to Craven, Saskatchwan in 1882. Charity married William
> Taylor in Regina in 1883 and had 4 sons and a daughter.
>
> Mark and his wife Eleanor had two sons William Norman (B. 1884) and George
> Henry (B.1886) so there has been a pocket of Catley in Saskatchewan ever
> since.
>
> Rgds
>
> Glynis
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Thanks for sending data, Glynis. In scanning the messages lately there was mention of a Catley in Moose Jaw, Sask.
My Father, Laurence Norman Catley, lived in Moose Jaw until his passing in 1998 (as did I and my sister until we moved on in adulthood.) I don't recall any other Catley's there when I lived there - must check the old phone books.
Janet
> From: glynisb(a)shaw.ca
> To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 14:34:20 -0700
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Saskatchewan Catleys
>
> Mark and Eleanor were married 10 Jan 1874 All Saints Paddington (BMD Mar
> 1874 Kensington 1A 169
>
> Enclosed is what I have on Mark and Eleanor,
> Rgds
> Glynis
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Cattley" <communicat(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Saskatchewan Catleys
>
>
> > Hi Glynis,
> >
> > Thank you for the reminder. Did you ever manage to find when Mark married
> > Eleanor, I don't have it recorded on my GRO Catley list.
> >
> > Your Saskatchwan "Catley pocket" indicates that either/both William
> > Norman//George Henry married and the line continues..........have you
> > details and if not, are they obtainable?
> >
> > Tim
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Glynis Brown" <glynisb(a)shaw.ca>
> > To: "Catley List" <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 9:12 PM
> > Subject: [CATLEY] Saskatchewan Catleys
> >
> >
> >> Hi:
> >>
> >> I would remind everyone that Mark Catley (B 1844 in Midsomer Norton) son
> >> of Francis & Louisa and his sister Charity (b 1852 in Midsomer Norton)
> >> both emigrated to Craven, Saskatchwan in 1882. Charity married William
> >> Taylor in Regina in 1883 and had 4 sons and a daughter.
> >>
> >> Mark and his wife Eleanor had two sons William Norman (B. 1884) and
> >> George
> >> Henry (B.1886) so there has been a pocket of Catley in Saskatchewan ever
> >> since.
> >>
> >> Rgds
> >>
> >> Glynis
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Hi from Janet,
I am the gr. granddaughter of Mark Catley and Eleanor Bolton - married Jan. 10, 1874 at All Saints Church, Paddington, London.
They were both working in London at the time. Both William Norman (my grandfather) and George Henry married and had families and they married and had families - and on and on. I will give you the details when time permits. Mark and Eleanor also had 2 sons in London who died shortly after birth - William born Nov. 16, 1878, d. Nov. 18, 1878 and Reynolds b. July 1881, d. Aug. 7, 1881. The only reason we know about them is because after William Norman died we found the memorial cards for them in a purse in a closet in his house.
Janet Newman
> From: communicat(a)mypostoffice.co.uk
> To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 22:09:54 +0100
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Saskatchewan Catleys
>
> Hi Glynis,
>
> Thank you for the reminder. Did you ever manage to find when Mark married
> Eleanor, I don't have it recorded on my GRO Catley list.
>
> Your Saskatchwan "Catley pocket" indicates that either/both William
> Norman//George Henry married and the line continues..........have you
> details and if not, are they obtainable?
>
> Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glynis Brown" <glynisb(a)shaw.ca>
> To: "Catley List" <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 9:12 PM
> Subject: [CATLEY] Saskatchewan Catleys
>
>
> > Hi:
> >
> > I would remind everyone that Mark Catley (B 1844 in Midsomer Norton) son
> > of Francis & Louisa and his sister Charity (b 1852 in Midsomer Norton)
> > both emigrated to Craven, Saskatchwan in 1882. Charity married William
> > Taylor in Regina in 1883 and had 4 sons and a daughter.
> >
> > Mark and his wife Eleanor had two sons William Norman (B. 1884) and George
> > Henry (B.1886) so there has been a pocket of Catley in Saskatchewan ever
> > since.
> >
> > Rgds
> >
> > Glynis
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Hi Tim
The much neglected William of Wheathampstead branch is well represented in Canada. Naomi Catley's grandson William Frederick Ansell went to Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan in 1911 and his wife, two small children and brother Vincent went over the following year. Although Vincent fought with the Canadians in WWI, he eventually returned to the UK. However, William and May had 4 more children and their descendants are to be found in Ontario and Nova Scotia as well as Saskatchewan.
Anthony
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From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of Tim Cattley
Sent: Sun 10-05-2009 13:27
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com; Catley List
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Archives Network of Alberta Display
Hi Glynis,
Apart from yourself, there seems to have been little communication on List
about the various Canadian Cat*ley branches and emigrations and whereas
there is plenty of interest in the Antipodes, Canada does not appear to have
come under much scrutiny except by Liz who gets everywhere!
I do not have the search resources of other Listers but looking at the
Catley GRO births for 4/4 1886 suggests to me that the subject here is
Sidney Charles.W.Catley husband of Elaine.M.Catley who kept the diary.
The clues in her journal show regular visits to friends+family in Ealing,
Richmond & Peckham prior to emigration and interestingly, I note that from
GRO that Sidneys birth Reg Dist was Lambeth which is close to Peckham.
Furthermore, I not a "run of Catley births" in the Lambeth area in the
1870's/80's which I have not got attached to any currently known
tree....................Liz!?
Can you match Sidney+Elaine (Calgary) with any current Catleys in Canada?
Regards
Tim
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From: "Glynis Brown" <glynisb(a)shaw.ca>
To: "Catley List" <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 9:05 PM
Subject: [CATLEY] Archives Network of Alberta Display
>
> Hi:
>
> In wondering the web the other day I can across this site with the diary
> if
> Elaine Catley from 1920. It shows some insight into the transition from UK
> to Canada and certainly be of interest to those researching the branch of
> the family.
>
> Glynis
>
>> http://asalive.archivesalberta.org:8080/access/asa/documents/display/GLEN-73
>>
>
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Hi:
I would remind everyone that Mark Catley (B 1844 in Midsomer Norton) son of Francis & Louisa and his sister Charity (b 1852 in Midsomer Norton) both emigrated to Craven, Saskatchwan in 1882. Charity married William Taylor in Regina in 1883 and had 4 sons and a daughter.
Mark and his wife Eleanor had two sons William Norman (B. 1884) and George Henry (B.1886) so there has been a pocket of Catley in Saskatchewan ever since.
Rgds
Glynis
Hi Glynis,
Apart from yourself, there seems to have been little communication on List
about the various Canadian Cat*ley branches and emigrations and whereas
there is plenty of interest in the Antipodes, Canada does not appear to have
come under much scrutiny except by Liz who gets everywhere!
I do not have the search resources of other Listers but looking at the
Catley GRO births for 4/4 1886 suggests to me that the subject here is
Sidney Charles.W.Catley husband of Elaine.M.Catley who kept the diary.
The clues in her journal show regular visits to friends+family in Ealing,
Richmond & Peckham prior to emigration and interestingly, I note that from
GRO that Sidneys birth Reg Dist was Lambeth which is close to Peckham.
Furthermore, I not a "run of Catley births" in the Lambeth area in the
1870's/80's which I have not got attached to any currently known
tree....................Liz!?
Can you match Sidney+Elaine (Calgary) with any current Catleys in Canada?
Regards
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glynis Brown" <glynisb(a)shaw.ca>
To: "Catley List" <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 9:05 PM
Subject: [CATLEY] Archives Network of Alberta Display
>
> Hi:
>
> In wondering the web the other day I can across this site with the diary
> if
> Elaine Catley from 1920. It shows some insight into the transition from UK
> to Canada and certainly be of interest to those researching the branch of
> the family.
>
> Glynis
>
>> http://asalive.archivesalberta.org:8080/access/asa/documents/display/GLEN-73
>>
>
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Hi Jocelyn (+ Anne)
Have just finished inputting your John Catley of Hackney 1803 data into the "Which Tree" Database.
Congratulations on such a well searched and presented Tree, it was a pleasure to process. My only sorrow is that I could not use all the grand distaff information you presented but you will understand that I must stick with the Catley theme on what is a Catley site?
That said: please do tell me the circumstances behind the two distaff brothers who died on the same day near Scott Base Antarctica?
Scott Base is in NZ possession as far as I am aware, which explains their presence and I assume they were part of a climbing party or some such team which met with some accident or other?
As for matters dna............ have now entered your tree into the database with the same code as the Edmund of Bilton and the Stevan of Normanton trees, as of course we have matching dna for all three.
I now have nearly 6000 Catley bmd events logged and my maths tells me that "our dna" accounts for about 15% of the total for the period 1581-1900. That is for just one Yorkshire based line.
So far, I think we have five different Catley dna groups running on test but the results from Bernie et al may push this figure up a notch or two. We will see.
Cheers
Tim
Hi:
In wondering the web the other day I can across this site with the diary if
Elaine Catley from 1920. It shows some insight into the transition from UK
to Canada and certainly be of interest to those researching the branch of
the family.
Glynis
> http://asalive.archivesalberta.org:8080/access/asa/documents/display/GLEN-73
>
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Hi all,
Lister Members of this Tree will be aware that there have been rumours abroad for a number of years concerning the existence of a narrative account on the family history starting 1609 in Yorkshire.
I have news on this:-
The account was written by a retired accountant from London who's mother was Jessie Cattley, a Normanton Tree member.
This gentleman attempted to get his work published but was unsuccessful on grounds of printing costs and low demand on such a specialist publication.
Since his death in 1993, the account remained in the ownership of his widow who resisted requests from other tree members to make it available.
However, I have now found out that she has donated her husbands work to a specialist UK archive and have made contact there.
The work, which is 90 pages of A4 is being photocopied for me subject to copyright agreement.
Will advise when I receive it.
Tim
Hi everybody,
The recent dna test result which shows a genetic connection between
Jocelyn's, John Catley of Hackney 1803 and the Stevan Catlay of Normanton
1609 tree is an object lesson for anybody on the List who still has doubts
about the usefulness of dna testing.
I know I speak for Jocelyn and Ann when I say that all three of us are quite
knocked backwards by this news as it is the last connection any of us
expected!
Jocelyn knew that her origins were in East London circa 1800 and knowing
just how many members of the Hertfordshire/Cambridgeshire/Essex Catleys
gravitated there, I think she was taking bets on her line being connected
with one or the other of them.
To be told that hers is connected with a Tree from up in Yorkshire puts a
totally different slant on the whole thing.
The hunt for paper record confirmation is now on!
Tim
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To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:51 PM
Subject: [CATLEY] DNA test
> Hi All,
> Just to let you know that Jocelyn's DNA test matched exactly with Tim on
> the 12 marker test. It was one away from John (Margs side).
> So good news as we know that John the father of Zachariah b Hackney who
> went to NZ married to Sarah Meadows belongs to the Yorkshire clan.
>
> Liz
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Hi All,
Just to let you know that Jocelyn's DNA test matched exactly with Tim on the 12 marker test. It was one away from John (Margs side).
So good news as we know that John the father of Zachariah b Hackney who went to NZ married to Sarah Meadows belongs to the Yorkshire clan.
Liz
Hi Tim,
William of Farndon I have managed to go back to William 1738. Joseph of
Walkeringham could belong to the Lincs line, Joseph's father being William b
1774 ish.
Liz
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From: "Tim Cattley" <communicat(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
To: "catley @rootsweb" <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:06 AM
Subject: [CATLEY] Cat*ley Tree Roundup
> As you all know, I am trying to keep track on how many Cat*ley trees we
> have uncovered and record them on a full Catley Database with appropriate
> titles that depict the earliest name and location known so far, and also
> add a dna match indicator as well.
>
> The importing of information is going quite well and I hope to have
> something meaningful to give out at the Trout meeting of Listers in June.
>
> Meanwhile I am detailing here the extent of the "known trees" which may be
> of interest to some on the List which is in chronological order:-
>
> 1609. Stevan of Normanton (Yorkshire) dna match 1
> 1683 Stephen of Ackworth (Yorkshire)
> 1696 Robert of Garforth (Yorkshire)
> 1701 Thomas of Midsomer Norton (Somerset)
> 1709 James of Barley (Hertfordshire) dna match 2
> 1709 William of Kirton (Lincolnshire) dna match 3
> 1731 Emery of Midsomer Norton (Somerset) dna sample
> 1742 Thomas of Ashby (Lincolnshire) dna match 3
> 1748 Edmund of Bilton (Yorkshire) dna match 1
> 1752 Samuel of Halstead (Essex)
> 1755 William of Aston (Warwickshire)
> 1775 William of Farndon (Nottinghamshire)
> 1802 Charles of Cucklington (Somerset)
> 1803 Joseph of Walkeringham (Nottinghamshire)
> 1804 John of Hackney (London)
> 1804 Joseph of Melbourn (Cambridgeshire) dna match 2
> 1814 Thomas of Bath (Bath&N.E.Somerset)
> 1823 Thomas of Escrick (Yorkshire)
> 1824 James of Stockwell (London)
> 1827 John of Sawston (Cambridgeshire)
> 1861 Charles of Greenwich (Kent) dna sample
>
> There is a lot more to do yet as am sure that many of you are sitting on
> information that I have not been able to pick up on despite requests
> in that direction.
>
> Your help would be much appreciated
>
> Tim
>
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Hi there Bernie,
When your sample arrives at the lab you will be emailed a password so you
can see when to expect results.
Regards
Jocelyn
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From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:catley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Bernie
Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2009 1:56 p.m.
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Cat*ley Tree Roundup
Hi Tim Bernie here how long does it take to get the results of the DNA
samples as mailed them on saturday express post .?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Cattley" <communicat(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
To: "catley @rootsweb" <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:06 AM
Subject: [CATLEY] Cat*ley Tree Roundup
> As you all know, I am trying to keep track on how many Cat*ley trees we
> have uncovered and record them on a full Catley Database with appropriate
> titles that depict the earliest name and location known so far, and also
> add a dna match indicator as well.
>
> The importing of information is going quite well and I hope to have
> something meaningful to give out at the Trout meeting of Listers in June.
>
> Meanwhile I am detailing here the extent of the "known trees" which may be
> of interest to some on the List which is in chronological order:-
>
> 1609. Stevan of Normanton (Yorkshire) dna match 1
> 1683 Stephen of Ackworth (Yorkshire)
> 1696 Robert of Garforth (Yorkshire)
> 1701 Thomas of Midsomer Norton (Somerset)
> 1709 James of Barley (Hertfordshire) dna match 2
> 1709 William of Kirton (Lincolnshire) dna match 3
> 1731 Emery of Midsomer Norton (Somerset) dna sample
> 1742 Thomas of Ashby (Lincolnshire) dna match 3
> 1748 Edmund of Bilton (Yorkshire) dna match 1
> 1752 Samuel of Halstead (Essex)
> 1755 William of Aston (Warwickshire)
> 1775 William of Farndon (Nottinghamshire)
> 1802 Charles of Cucklington (Somerset)
> 1803 Joseph of Walkeringham (Nottinghamshire)
> 1804 John of Hackney (London)
> 1804 Joseph of Melbourn (Cambridgeshire) dna match 2
> 1814 Thomas of Bath (Bath&N.E.Somerset)
> 1823 Thomas of Escrick (Yorkshire)
> 1824 James of Stockwell (London)
> 1827 John of Sawston (Cambridgeshire)
> 1861 Charles of Greenwich (Kent) dna sample
>
> There is a lot more to do yet as am sure that many of you are sitting on
> information that I have not been able to pick up on despite requests
> in that direction.
>
> Your help would be much appreciated
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
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Tim Cattley <communicat(a)mypostoffice.co.uk> writes
>
>As you would expect, I have been using the main Catley Database as part of
>my import of data and have been tempted on a number of occasions, to make up
>strings of trees especially where it is pretty obvious that the sender has
>submitted the information as a result of his/her research into their own
>tree.
>
>The Weaverham Catleys are a good case in point here but I have refrained
>from so doing because it is all too easy to assume things and create errors
>and further unnecessary confusion.
>
>Would far rather you agree to supply me direct with what you have got (as
>Anthony is about to do) as that way, I know what I get is correct.
Sure thing, hardly a tree, rather a twig but here goes:
Joseph Catley, b. circa 1793 in Middlesex, London, d. 26 Sep 1863 in
Weaverham, CHS, bur. 30 Sep 1863 in Weaverham, CHS
+Sarah Parnell, b. circa 1796 in Middlesex, London, m. 4 Jul 1821 in St
Mary, Weaverham, CHS, d. 7 Dec 1874 in Weaverham, CHS, bur. 10 Dec 1874
in Weaverham
|-- William Catley, b. 1822 in Cuddington, CHS, d. Dec 1895 in Crowton,
CHS, bur. 23 Dec 1895 in Weaverham, CHS
|-- Mary Catley, b. 1824 in Sandiway, CHS
| +Thomas Bower, m. circa Dec 1850 in St. Mary, Great Budworth, CHS
|-- Jane Catley, b. 1827 in Gorstage, CHS, d. Aug 1856 in Weaverham,
CHS, bur. 21 Aug 1856 in Weaverham, CHS
| +no marriage, unknown partner
| \-- Jane Catley, b. 11 Aug 1856 in Weaverham, CHS, d. Aug 1856 in
Weaverham, CHS, bur. 30 Aug 1856 in Weaverham, CHS
|-- George Catley, b. Nov 1830 in Gorstage, CHS, d. 20 Dec 1907 in
Weaverham, CHS, bur. 30 Dec 1907 in Weaverham, CHS
| +Maria Grayson, b. circa 1834 in Manchester, LAN, m. 12 May 1853 in
St Mary, Weaverham, CHS, d. 27 Mar 1916 in Acton, CHS, bur. 30 Mar 1916
in Weaverham
| |-- Ruth Selina Catley, b. 1854 in Weaverham, CHS
| |-- Joseph Catley, b. 1856 in Weaverham, CHS
| | +Anne Pope, b. circa 1853 in Acton, CHS, m. 5 Nov 1881 in
Weaverham, CHS
| | |-- Sarah Annie Catley, b. circa Sep 1882 in Weaverham, CHS
| | \-- Maria Catley, b. 1886 in Weaverham, CHS, d. 1927
| \-- Maria Catley, b. 1858 in Acton, CHS, d. 31 Jul 1924 in Upton,
CHS, bur. 4 Aug 1924 in Weaverham, CHS
|-- Sarah Catley, b. 1833 in Gorstage, CHS
|-- Caroline Catley, b. 21 Jul 1836 in Cranage, CHS, d. 6 Mar 1918 in
Stoke on Trent, STS, bur. 9 Mar 1918 in Weaverham, CHS
| +Thomas Newall, b. 10 Jan 1835 in Weaverham, CHS, m. 12 Apr 1860 in
Weaverham, CHS, d. 11 Oct 1875 in Gorstage, CHS, bur. 14 Oct 1875 in
Weaverham
| |-- Thomas Catley Newall, b. 1 Mar 1868 in Gorstage Farm, Gorstage,
CHS, d. 22 Jan 1936 in Northwich, CHS, bur. in St John, Hartford, CHS
| | +Annie Beech, b. 29 Apr 1872 in Allostock, CHS, m. 18 Sep 1901
in Lower Peover, CHS, d. 4 Jun 1951 in Northwich, CHS, bur. in St John,
Hartford, CHS
| | |-- Harold Earle Newall, b. 27 May 1902 in 5 Weaver Terrace,
Northwich, CHS, d. 6 Jun 1966 in Folkestone, KEN
| | | +Cicely Margaret Hall, b. 24 Nov 1899 in 97 Stafford Street,
Sheffield, WRY, m. 21 Dec 1929 in Christchurch, Fulwood, Sheffield, WRY,
d. 4 Dec 1963 in Folkestone
| | | \-- Christopher Earle Newall, adopted son, b. 25 Jul 1938 in
Margate, KEN
\-- Emma Catley, b. 1839 in Milton, CHS, d. 1841 in Milton, CHS
I have cropped the Newall family, apart from the direct line to myself.
Note that Joseph may well have been a son of William of Wheathampstead
but there is no convincing proof of this yet. William of W had a son
named Joseph who appears to have married Elizabeth Wagstaff on 8 Dec
1812 at St Albans, they appear to have had a daughter Elizabeth baptised
at Watford on 29 Jan 1813. We then have a burial of an Elizabeth aged 24
years on 30 Apr 1820 at Watford - presumably Joseph's wife.
My Joseph married Sarah Parnell on 4 Jul 1821 at Weaverham, I will have
to recheck the register to see if he is recorded as a bachelor or a
widower. If he is, then the relationship to William of W is highly
probable, if Joseph is described as a bachelor then either he lied or
William was probably not his father. The other loose end is what
happened to Elizabeth, the daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Wagstaff.
Complicated ain't it? More work needs to be done in both the Watford and
Weaverham records.
Best wishes
Chris
--
Chris Newall EMail : chris(a)rebus.demon.co.uk
Ealing, London, W5 Website: http://www.rebus.demon.co.uk/
Hi Tim did Liz export my tree from GR? Lynda
Sent from my iphone
On 5 May 2009, at 14:55, "Tim Cattley" <communicat(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
wrote:
> Hello Chris,
>
> As you would expect, I have been using the main Catley Database as
> part of
> my import of data and have been tempted on a number of occasions, to
> make up
> strings of trees especially where it is pretty obvious that the
> sender has
> submitted the information as a result of his/her research into
> their own
> tree.
>
> The Weaverham Catleys are a good case in point here but I have
> refrained
> from so doing because it is all too easy to assume things and create
> errors
> and further unnecessary confusion.
>
> Would far rather you agree to supply me direct with what you have
> got (as
> Anthony is about to do) as that way, I know what I get is correct.
>
> Some Listers may think that my "which tree" database is unnecessary
> on the
> grounds that we already have a very comprehensive one, so why produce
> another?
>
> There are a number of reasons:-
>
> Quite a few of the Listers are interested in more than one tree;
> Mick for
> example is researching all Cat*leys in the three counties of
> Herts/Cambs/Essex and is seeking to "join trees", likewise is Kay
> for the
> Yorkshire ones whilst Liz's dad's ancestors seem to have been most
> mobile
> ranging from Sussex to N.Yorkshire.
>
> In such cases, I think that a detailed chronological list of bmd's
> is very
> helpful indeed.
>
> Another point: as tree members become identified and "labelled" so
> the
> remaining unidentified persons become easy to spot on the list.
>
> However, it will all only work if everybody sumbits everything they
> have.
>
> Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Newall" <chris(a)rebus.demon.co.uk>
> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Cat*ley Tree Roundup
>
>
>> Anthony M. Carter <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk> writes
>>> This is a very useful list although I suggest the addition of "1768
>>> William of Wheathampstead (Hertfordshire)." I will send you relevant
>>> information off list. William's settlment was St Katherine
>>> Creechurch
>>> London, but I have been unable to link him to other Catley's from
>>> the
>>> City or East End.
>>
>> I agree, a very useful list. Another addition could be:
>>
>> 1796 Joseph of Weaverham (Cheshire)
>>
>> It is possible, but not yet proven, that Joseph might be the son of
>> William of Wheathampstead. He was certainly born at the right time
>> and
>> in the right place [Middlesex] but by 1820 had moved to Cheshire
>> where
>> he married [a girl from London] and had a family.
>>
>> --
>> Chris Newall EMail : chris(a)rebus.demon.co.uk
>> Ealing, London, W5 Website: http://www.rebus.demon.co.uk/
>>
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Hi Tim Bernie here how long does it take to get the results of the DNA
samples as mailed them on saturday express post .?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Cattley" <communicat(a)mypostoffice.co.uk>
To: "catley @rootsweb" <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:06 AM
Subject: [CATLEY] Cat*ley Tree Roundup
> As you all know, I am trying to keep track on how many Cat*ley trees we
> have uncovered and record them on a full Catley Database with appropriate
> titles that depict the earliest name and location known so far, and also
> add a dna match indicator as well.
>
> The importing of information is going quite well and I hope to have
> something meaningful to give out at the Trout meeting of Listers in June.
>
> Meanwhile I am detailing here the extent of the "known trees" which may be
> of interest to some on the List which is in chronological order:-
>
> 1609. Stevan of Normanton (Yorkshire) dna match 1
> 1683 Stephen of Ackworth (Yorkshire)
> 1696 Robert of Garforth (Yorkshire)
> 1701 Thomas of Midsomer Norton (Somerset)
> 1709 James of Barley (Hertfordshire) dna match 2
> 1709 William of Kirton (Lincolnshire) dna match 3
> 1731 Emery of Midsomer Norton (Somerset) dna sample
> 1742 Thomas of Ashby (Lincolnshire) dna match 3
> 1748 Edmund of Bilton (Yorkshire) dna match 1
> 1752 Samuel of Halstead (Essex)
> 1755 William of Aston (Warwickshire)
> 1775 William of Farndon (Nottinghamshire)
> 1802 Charles of Cucklington (Somerset)
> 1803 Joseph of Walkeringham (Nottinghamshire)
> 1804 John of Hackney (London)
> 1804 Joseph of Melbourn (Cambridgeshire) dna match 2
> 1814 Thomas of Bath (Bath&N.E.Somerset)
> 1823 Thomas of Escrick (Yorkshire)
> 1824 James of Stockwell (London)
> 1827 John of Sawston (Cambridgeshire)
> 1861 Charles of Greenwich (Kent) dna sample
>
> There is a lot more to do yet as am sure that many of you are sitting on
> information that I have not been able to pick up on despite requests
> in that direction.
>
> Your help would be much appreciated
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hello Anthony,
Many thank's for your reminder re the William of Wheathamstead connection
which had slipped under my radar.
It was because of probable oversights like this that I was tempted to send
out the "roundup list", in that by chucking all I had into the cooking pot
was hopefully going to stir up reactions and bring more data to the surface!
Yes please: if you can send me what you have on William and his connections
back to London, I will add everything to my spreadsheet.
Best wishes
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Cat*ley Tree Roundup
> Dear Tim
>
> This is a very useful list although I suggest the addition of "1768
> William of Wheathampstead (Hertfordshire)." I will send you relevant
> information off list. William's settlment was St Katherine Creechurch
> London, but I have been unable to link him to other Catley's from the City
> or East End.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Anthony
> ________________________________
>
> From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of Tim Cattley
> Sent: Tue 05-05-2009 01:06
> To: catley @rootsweb
> Subject: [CATLEY] Cat*ley Tree Roundup
>
>
>
> As you all know, I am trying to keep track on how many Cat*ley trees we
> have uncovered and record them on a full Catley Database with appropriate
> titles that depict the earliest name and location known so far, and also
> add a dna match indicator as well.
>
> The importing of information is going quite well and I hope to have
> something meaningful to give out at the Trout meeting of Listers in June.
>
> Meanwhile I am detailing here the extent of the "known trees" which may be
> of interest to some on the List which is in chronological order:-
>
> 1609. Stevan of Normanton (Yorkshire) dna match 1
> 1683 Stephen of Ackworth (Yorkshire)
> 1696 Robert of Garforth (Yorkshire)
> 1701 Thomas of Midsomer Norton (Somerset)
> 1709 James of Barley (Hertfordshire) dna match 2
> 1709 William of Kirton (Lincolnshire) dna match 3
> 1731 Emery of Midsomer Norton (Somerset) dna sample
> 1742 Thomas of Ashby (Lincolnshire) dna match 3
> 1748 Edmund of Bilton (Yorkshire) dna match 1
> 1752 Samuel of Halstead (Essex)
> 1755 William of Aston (Warwickshire)
> 1775 William of Farndon (Nottinghamshire)
> 1802 Charles of Cucklington (Somerset)
> 1803 Joseph of Walkeringham (Nottinghamshire)
> 1804 John of Hackney (London)
> 1804 Joseph of Melbourn (Cambridgeshire) dna match 2
> 1814 Thomas of Bath (Bath&N.E.Somerset)
> 1823 Thomas of Escrick (Yorkshire)
> 1824 James of Stockwell (London)
> 1827 John of Sawston (Cambridgeshire)
> 1861 Charles of Greenwich (Kent) dna sample
>
> There is a lot more to do yet as am sure that many of you are sitting on
> information that I have not been able to pick up on despite requests
> in that direction.
>
> Your help would be much appreciated
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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