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Hi David
Imagaes sent to you
Elaine
--- On Sun, 1/11/09, David Meredith <david.meredith(a)live.co.uk> wrote:
From: David Meredith <david.meredith(a)live.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Sunday, 1 November, 2009, 8:32 PM
North Lincolnshire Council Website - Births / Marriages / Deaths:
Birth:
Year: 1884
Book Number: BA
Entry Number:
John W Catley
Marriage:
Year 1906
Book Number: C 6.2
Entry Number: 215
John W Catley
Alice M Simpson
The above events relate to John William Catley son of Charles & Maria Catley of Goxhill, Barrow Upon Humber, LIN and then Sculcoates and Hull, YKS.
These Catleys were descendants of the Wootton-Kirmington line to whom John and I are related.
Then there is the additional marriage below...
Marriage:
Year: 1913
Book Number: C 8.2
Entry Number 285
John W Catley
Annie M Fox
I suspect that this John William Catley was born in York in c.1883 the son of John Catley (a railway man of some description) who was born at Askham Bryan, YKS.
I only have access to the free index of the 1911 census but I think the above couple are to be found in York that year.
Perhaps some one will have further knowledge of these Catleys.
David
From: Tim Cattley
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:14 AM
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
This is probably best addressed at both Liz and David who are our Linc's Catley experts.
I am looking at a branch of an unknown Catley tree which seems to have proliferated during the 1914-1936 period in the Gainsborough / Thorne / Scunthorpe area with a possible sub branch extending down via Hendon to Bromley and Croydon.
There is strong evidence to suggest that the three generations that I have identified stem from John William Catley b 1/4 1885 Glanford Brigg m 4/4 1914 Thorne, to a Miss Fox.
John William would seem not to belong to the William of Kirton or Thomas of Ashby lines.
Have either of you got an identification on him?
Noted : that the birth's for Glanford 1875-1885 contain eight other individuals some of which are very likely to be siblings.
Tim
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North Lincolnshire Council Website - Births / Marriages / Deaths:
Birth:
Year: 1884
Book Number: BA
Entry Number:
John W Catley
Marriage:
Year 1906
Book Number: C 6.2
Entry Number: 215
John W Catley
Alice M Simpson
The above events relate to John William Catley son of Charles & Maria Catley of Goxhill, Barrow Upon Humber, LIN and then Sculcoates and Hull, YKS.
These Catleys were descendants of the Wootton-Kirmington line to whom John and I are related.
Then there is the additional marriage below...
Marriage:
Year: 1913
Book Number: C 8.2
Entry Number 285
John W Catley
Annie M Fox
I suspect that this John William Catley was born in York in c.1883 the son of John Catley (a railway man of some description) who was born at Askham Bryan, YKS.
I only have access to the free index of the 1911 census but I think the above couple are to be found in York that year.
Perhaps some one will have further knowledge of these Catleys.
David
From: Tim Cattley
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:14 AM
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
This is probably best addressed at both Liz and David who are our Linc's Catley experts.
I am looking at a branch of an unknown Catley tree which seems to have proliferated during the 1914-1936 period in the Gainsborough / Thorne / Scunthorpe area with a possible sub branch extending down via Hendon to Bromley and Croydon.
There is strong evidence to suggest that the three generations that I have identified stem from John William Catley b 1/4 1885 Glanford Brigg m 4/4 1914 Thorne, to a Miss Fox.
John William would seem not to belong to the William of Kirton or Thomas of Ashby lines.
Have either of you got an identification on him?
Noted : that the birth's for Glanford 1875-1885 contain eight other individuals some of which are very likely to be siblings.
Tim
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Hi Tim and Anthony
Your best bet for Lincs Catley's is Dave M or John. I have relied on their
info of our Lincs tree except for my direct Catley's
Liz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
> Agree about the 13 Catley/Fox births but insist the Glanford Brigg John
> William Catley married Alice Simpson. In which direction are you working?
> Is John William of no interest unless married to Annie Fox? I have wife
> and 3 kids from John William's service records and can find him with
> parents on the census. On the other hand, if you are working backwards
> from the Fox marriage you probably have the wrong John Catley. Anthony
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of Tim Cattley
> Sent: Sun 01-11-2009 17:35
> To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
>
>
>
> I am working from the straight GRO's rather than Ancestry which give the
> full names John William for birth 1/4 1885, Glandford and John W for
> marriage 4/4 1913, Thorne..
>
> Thereafter follows a string of 13 births all attributed to maiden name
> Fox,
> the first five being registered at Gainsborough and the remaining eight at
> Thorne.
>
> Tim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony M. Carter" <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk>
> To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
>
>
>> The wife referred to was Annie M. Fox (FreeBMD). Presumably you have
>> searched that site for possible Catley/Thorne progeny. There are 5
>> registered Gainsborough 1914-19 and 8 registered Thorne 1921-36.
>> I notice the FreeBMD entry for the marriage does not give a middle name
>> or
>> initial. No doubt you have ruled out a John William Catley of same age
>> who
>> married Alice Maude Simpson at Barrow-on-Humber 23 December 1906? This
>> man's service record has survived and is found both in the Burnt Series
>> and Pension Series. Let me know if you revise your opinion and I will
>> supply details.
>> Anthony
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of Tim Cattley
>> Sent: Sun 01-11-2009 12:14
>> To: catley @rootsweb
>> Subject: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
>>
>>
>>
>> This is probably best addressed at both Liz and David who are our Linc's
>> Catley experts.
>>
>> I am looking at a branch of an unknown Catley tree which seems to have
>> proliferated during the 1914-1936 period in the Gainsborough / Thorne /
>> Scunthorpe area with a possible sub branch extending down via Hendon to
>> Bromley and Croydon.
>>
>> There is strong evidence to suggest that the three generations that I
>> have
>> identified stem from John William Catley b 1/4 1885 Glanford Brigg m 4/4
>> 1914 Thorne, to a Miss Fox.
>>
>> John William would seem not to belong to the William of Kirton or Thomas
>> of Ashby lines.
>>
>> Have either of you got an identification on him?
>>
>> Noted : that the birth's for Glanford 1875-1885 contain eight other
>> individuals some of which are very likely to be siblings.
>>
>> Tim
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The Registration District of Glanford Brigg includes Barrow upon Humber. Therefore I am certain that the service records refer to the man you mention. He was a lighterman and served in the Royal Engineers in a similar capacity including on cross channel ferries. He was discharged due to a pre-existing medical condition. My question is this: have you seized on the wrong Catley or do you have the wrong wife? Anthony
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From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of Tim Cattley
Sent: Sun 01-11-2009 12:14
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
This is probably best addressed at both Liz and David who are our Linc's Catley experts.
I am looking at a branch of an unknown Catley tree which seems to have proliferated during the 1914-1936 period in the Gainsborough / Thorne / Scunthorpe area with a possible sub branch extending down via Hendon to Bromley and Croydon.
There is strong evidence to suggest that the three generations that I have identified stem from John William Catley b 1/4 1885 Glanford Brigg m 4/4 1914 Thorne, to a Miss Fox.
John William would seem not to belong to the William of Kirton or Thomas of Ashby lines.
Have either of you got an identification on him?
Noted : that the birth's for Glanford 1875-1885 contain eight other individuals some of which are very likely to be siblings.
Tim
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The wife referred to was Annie M. Fox (FreeBMD). Presumably you have searched that site for possible Catley/Thorne progeny. There are 5 registered Gainsborough 1914-19 and 8 registered Thorne 1921-36.
I notice the FreeBMD entry for the marriage does not give a middle name or initial. No doubt you have ruled out a John William Catley of same age who married Alice Maude Simpson at Barrow-on-Humber 23 December 1906? This man's service record has survived and is found both in the Burnt Series and Pension Series. Let me know if you revise your opinion and I will supply details.
Anthony
________________________________
From: catley-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of Tim Cattley
Sent: Sun 01-11-2009 12:14
To: catley @rootsweb
Subject: [CATLEY] Lincolnshire Catleys
This is probably best addressed at both Liz and David who are our Linc's Catley experts.
I am looking at a branch of an unknown Catley tree which seems to have proliferated during the 1914-1936 period in the Gainsborough / Thorne / Scunthorpe area with a possible sub branch extending down via Hendon to Bromley and Croydon.
There is strong evidence to suggest that the three generations that I have identified stem from John William Catley b 1/4 1885 Glanford Brigg m 4/4 1914 Thorne, to a Miss Fox.
John William would seem not to belong to the William of Kirton or Thomas of Ashby lines.
Have either of you got an identification on him?
Noted : that the birth's for Glanford 1875-1885 contain eight other individuals some of which are very likely to be siblings.
Tim
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This is probably best addressed at both Liz and David who are our Linc's Catley experts.
I am looking at a branch of an unknown Catley tree which seems to have proliferated during the 1914-1936 period in the Gainsborough / Thorne / Scunthorpe area with a possible sub branch extending down via Hendon to Bromley and Croydon.
There is strong evidence to suggest that the three generations that I have identified stem from John William Catley b 1/4 1885 Glanford Brigg m 4/4 1914 Thorne, to a Miss Fox.
John William would seem not to belong to the William of Kirton or Thomas of Ashby lines.
Have either of you got an identification on him?
Noted : that the birth's for Glanford 1875-1885 contain eight other individuals some of which are very likely to be siblings.
Tim