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Hello All,
Just to remind those who have already expressed an intention to attend and to advise those who do not already know, and possibly any who had forgotten!, that the second get-together of Catley's from numerous different Trees will take place on Saturday 17th May at:-
The Trout Inn
Lower Wolvercote
Oxford
OX2 8PN
All are welcome to this informal gathering, bring your research data with you!
It looks to me as if we are guaranteed to meet Catley members from at least seven different Trees which, given the rarity of the name, is a pretty unique experience in itself and not to be missed if you are a Catley genealogist.
The main party of attendees will be there circa 11.00 - 16.00hrs
See you there
Regards
Tim Cattley
Yes Tim, it's David and myself. I think that Rosemary Fearney did some research about ten years ago and came to the conclusion that we were all from the same source.
John one T
PS. and yes it would be a good idea to travel to Oxford together, I will ring nearer the date to make arrangements
> From: timjhcat(a)tiscali.co.uk> To: catley(a)rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 23:31:11 +0100> Subject: [CATLEY] Which Tree?> > Hello all,> > Who's Tree contains Richard Catley married Sarah Newmarsh 13/12/1810 Great Limber, Lincs?> > I think it must be Dave.M and John.C as I associate the Newmarsh maiden name as a second Christian name on their collective Tree. > > I have fielded a distaff line query from a descendant of Richard+Sarah's grand daughter mary Jane Catley who married John Temple.> > Can you confirm that I am on the right track and can I put the query over to you please?> > Best wishes> > Tim Catt.> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CATLEY-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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Hello all,
Who's Tree contains Richard Catley married Sarah Newmarsh 13/12/1810 Great Limber, Lincs?
I think it must be Dave.M and John.C as I associate the Newmarsh maiden name as a second Christian name on their collective Tree.
I have fielded a distaff line query from a descendant of Richard+Sarah's grand daughter mary Jane Catley who married John Temple.
Can you confirm that I am on the right track and can I put the query over to you please?
Best wishes
Tim Catt.
Hi Mick,
Well done. I never would have thought of looking to Australia for records.
John Arthur was born in UK went to Canada came back to UK for 81 census then
died in York Canada in 1884. His wife Eliza was in Uk for 81 and 1901 census
before going back to Canada. So they where a well travelled family. Is it
possible to find out what they where doing in Australia or find out who John
worked for. He is down as a clerk on 71 census for Canada. In 81 his
occupation was Annuitant which means he had money. Edward and Eardley went
to live in NY for the 1900 census. Mary had married but was a widow and
living with her mother and sister Ella. No sign of the others. Could they
have stayed in Australia or died there.
Talk soon
LIz
-------Original Message-------
From: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Date: 05/05/08 02:25:49
To: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATLEY] John Arthur Cattley
Liz,
This could be your John Arthur Catley and family. They appear on the "Index
to Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria 1852-1923"
<http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23>.
arriving VIctoria from Britain on the "Whampoa" Feb 1875. According to his
age on the manifest, he was born in about 1817.
I have no other information about the family from Victorian Public Records
which is unusual and might indicate that the family did not stay in
Victoria. There are several other sources I can pursue if it is
warranted.
CATLEY JOHN A 58
CATLEY ELIZA 34
CATLEY ANN LOUISA 16
CATLEY EARDLEY 14
CATLEY EDWD 11
CATLEY MARY 10
CATLEY ELLA 8
CATLEY EWAN 6
CATLEY LOUIS 3
Regards,
Mick Catley
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Liz,
This could be your John Arthur Catley and family. They appear on the "Index
to Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria 1852-1923"
<http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23>.
arriving VIctoria from Britain on the "Whampoa" Feb 1875. According to his
age on the manifest, he was born in about 1817.
I have no other information about the family from Victorian Public Records
which is unusual and might indicate that the family did not stay in
Victoria. There are several other sources I can pursue if it is
warranted.
CATLEY JOHN A 58
CATLEY ELIZA 34
CATLEY ANN LOUISA 16
CATLEY EARDLEY 14
CATLEY EDWD 11
CATLEY MARY 10
CATLEY ELLA 8
CATLEY EWAN 6
CATLEY LOUIS 3
Regards,
Mick Catley
Hi All,
Does anybody have the above mentioned in there tree. He would have been born
around 1814 - 1818 England. Perhaps you can't find any more details on him.
Let me know
Thanks
Liz
In case any of you had not picked this up, The Times Newspaper Archive ,
previously only available through libraries and institutions or by
subscription is now available free on the internet.
the address is www.timesonline.co.uk/archive. You have to register but
the service is free. A global search reveals over 900 Catley references-
good hunting (and let me know if you come accross any of the India based
Catleys!)
Another little goodie I came accross recently is the My Genealogy Toolbar
which extends your web brouser to give quick access to genealogy websites'
content. Its free and does not require registration. Can be used on Internet
Explorer or Firefox. Download from www.usefultoolbars.co.uk
Nigel
----- Original Message -----
From: "liz cordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:31 AM
Subject: [CATLEY] old bailey
> Hi All,
>
> If you don't know this site already give it a
> go.http://www.hrionline.ac.uk
> there are some Catley's on there.
>
>
>
> Liz
>
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>
There are Cattleys in it as well as Catleys and when last I looked there
were two instances of trials concerning members of Stevan of Normantons
Tree.
where they were the plaintiff.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "liz cordingley" <lizcordingley(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <catley(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 9:31 AM
Subject: [CATLEY] old bailey
> Hi All,
>
> If you don't know this site already give it a
go.http://www.hrionline.ac.uk
> there are some Catley's on there.
>
>
>
> Liz
>
>
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>
Chris
Sorry to throw a spanner in the works but now I find in my notes on the baptism of Elizabeth at Watford St Mary that the register gives the occupation of Joseph Catley in 1813 as groom. Not too far from coachman. Could your Joseph have been married before he met Sarah and moved to CHS?
Anthony
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Sendt: fr 02-05-2008 14:14
Til: catley(a)rootsweb.com
Emne: Re: [CATLEY] Wheathampstead Catleys
Anthony M. Carter <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk> writes
>A visit to HALS at Hertford has strengthened the leads provided for the
>Wheathampstead Catleys. The information given by Thomas Bunyan on the
>Examination of his granddaughter Lydia Catley in 1840 was key to
>establishing that the family came from the parish of St. Katherine
>Creechurch in the City of London (just as Liz had foretold).
>
>First generation: WILLIAM CATLEY married SUSANA CARTER at St. Katherine
>Creechurch on 17 April 1792. Susana had been born in Wheathampstead.
>Their son Joseph was christened 2 June 1793 at St Mary Whitechapel,
>Stepney. A second son William was born about 1798. Two daughters were
>born after they moved to Wheathampstead: Elizabeth on 24 June 1802 and
>Sarah on 2 June 1805. William died 1823 and Susana 1834.
>
>Second generation: JOSEPH CATLEY married ELIZABETH WAGSTAFF 8 December
>1812 at St Peters, St Albans.
>...snip...
This potentially solves my conundrum as to which Joseph Catley baptised
in London in 1793 was my ancestor. They were:
CATLEY Joseph bapt. 2 Jun 1793 son of Wm. & Susannah at Whitechapel, St.
Mary, address illegible in register
or
CATTLEY Joseph bapt. 21 Jul 1793 C son of John & Margaret Catherine at
Bethnal Green, St. Matthew, born on 13 July 1793, father a baker
My Joseph, who married Sarah Parnell at St Mary, Weaverham on 4th July
1821, was born in London in 1793 and is clearly one of the above.
Can we be absolutely sure that the Joseph who married Elizabeth Wagstaff
at St. Albans in 1812 is the son of William and Susanna? I grant that
everything points that way, but is there supporting evidence? I don't
have details of this marriage, is there a clue from the marriage
witnesses or is there any other evidence to link this Joseph to William
& Susanna?
Sorry to be pedantic about this, but it could help to chip away at one
of my brick walls by proving that my Joseph was the son of John &
Margaret Catherine.
Best wishes
Chris
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Ealing, London, W5 Website: http://www.rebus.demon.co.uk/
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Anthony M. Carter <ACarter(a)health.sdu.dk> writes
>A visit to HALS at Hertford has strengthened the leads provided for the
>Wheathampstead Catleys. The information given by Thomas Bunyan on the
>Examination of his granddaughter Lydia Catley in 1840 was key to
>establishing that the family came from the parish of St. Katherine
>Creechurch in the City of London (just as Liz had foretold).
>
>First generation: WILLIAM CATLEY married SUSANA CARTER at St. Katherine
>Creechurch on 17 April 1792. Susana had been born in Wheathampstead.
>Their son Joseph was christened 2 June 1793 at St Mary Whitechapel,
>Stepney. A second son William was born about 1798. Two daughters were
>born after they moved to Wheathampstead: Elizabeth on 24 June 1802 and
>Sarah on 2 June 1805. William died 1823 and Susana 1834.
>
>Second generation: JOSEPH CATLEY married ELIZABETH WAGSTAFF 8 December
>1812 at St Peters, St Albans.
>...snip...
This potentially solves my conundrum as to which Joseph Catley baptised
in London in 1793 was my ancestor. They were:
CATLEY Joseph bapt. 2 Jun 1793 son of Wm. & Susannah at Whitechapel, St.
Mary, address illegible in register
or
CATTLEY Joseph bapt. 21 Jul 1793 C son of John & Margaret Catherine at
Bethnal Green, St. Matthew, born on 13 July 1793, father a baker
My Joseph, who married Sarah Parnell at St Mary, Weaverham on 4th July
1821, was born in London in 1793 and is clearly one of the above.
Can we be absolutely sure that the Joseph who married Elizabeth Wagstaff
at St. Albans in 1812 is the son of William and Susanna? I grant that
everything points that way, but is there supporting evidence? I don't
have details of this marriage, is there a clue from the marriage
witnesses or is there any other evidence to link this Joseph to William
& Susanna?
Sorry to be pedantic about this, but it could help to chip away at one
of my brick walls by proving that my Joseph was the son of John &
Margaret Catherine.
Best wishes
Chris
--
Chris Newall EMail : chris(a)rebus.demon.co.uk
Ealing, London, W5 Website: http://www.rebus.demon.co.uk/
A visit to HALS at Hertford has strengthened the leads provided for the Wheathampstead Catleys. The information given by Thomas Bunyan on the Examination of his granddaughter Lydia Catley in 1840 was key to establishing that the family came from the parish of St. Katherine Creechurch in the City of London (just as Liz had foretold).
First generation: WILLIAM CATLEY married SUSANA CARTER at St. Katherine Creechurch on 17 April 1792. Susana had been born in Wheathampstead. Their son Joseph was christened 2 June 1793 at St Mary Whitechapel, Stepney. A second son William was born about 1798. Two daughters were born after they moved to Wheathampstead: Elizabeth on 24 June 1802 and Sarah on 2 June 1805. William died 1823 and Susana 1834.
Second generation: JOSEPH CATLEY married ELIZABETH WAGSTAFF 8 December 1812 at St Peters, St Albans. Their daughter Elizabeth Catley was christened 1813 at St Marys, Watford. WILLIAM CATLEY married NAOMI BUNYAN 26 November 1820 at Codicote Herts. They had three daughters: Naomi was born about 1821, Lydia about 1824 and Elizabeth about 1826. A Removal Order for William Catley, his wife and daughters from Wheathampstead to St Katherine Creechurch, London, was issued 26 May 1834 but suspended as William was not fit to travel. He received relief from St Katherine Creechurch until his death later that year as did his widow until her death in 1836. ELIZABETH CATLEY (daughter of William and Susana) died in 1826 aged 23. SARAH CATLEY married Edward Tomlin, a widower and blacksmith, 24 April 1851 at Kimpton. She was then 40 and there were no children. (Sharon White found details of this family.)
Third generation: ELIZABETH CATLEY (daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth) has not been traced. NAOMI CATLEY had three children before her marriage to CHARLES ANSELL 15 February 1857 at Wheathamstead and three thereafter. The illegitimate children were Emma born 1843, Mary born 1852, and John born 1855. The Ansells were Charles born 1858, William born 1861 (my great grandfather) and James Joseph born 1864. Naomi died at Wheathampstead in 1913 aged 92. LYDIA CATLEY was the subject of a removal order from Codicote to St Katherine Creechurch on 11 February 1840. She was at the City of London Union Workhouse in 1851 and probably died there in 1854. ELIZABETH CATLEY (daughter of William and Naomi) married William Lambley 9 June 1865 at All Hallows Barking, London. However, they seem to have had a son JOHN born about 1848. Elizabeth lived her last years in Wheathampstead and died there in 1912.
Fourth generation: EMMA CATLEY married Abel Adams 3 May 1863 at Wheathampstead. They had a daughter Rose. Emma likely died in 1898. MARY CATLEY married Frederick Bamfield or Barnfield 1 January 1873 at Patricroft, Lancs. Their children were Emily, Elizabeth, Arthur and Albert. She died 1940 at Peel Green, Eccles, Lancs. JOHN CATLEY died as an infant in 1856. The three Ansell sons had a total of 20 children. However the Catley surname was extirpated from Wheathampstead and neighbouring parishes.
Anthony Carter