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Hi everyone! I've been pretty quiet but two things have happend to me quite
recently.
I contacted the relevant government office because I established I am in a
council tax band that no one in my neighbourhood is and our homes are rather
similar (the band I'm in being the more expensive one obviously). I had a
response from the Chief Valuer - Mark Catley so.........as you do I asked him to
look into my situation and left a ps saying about our Catley page and that I
was a Melbourn Catley.......had correspondance too-ing anf fro-ing after that
from other valuers (this began last September) and not a very satisfactory
outcome either! anyway on 2nd January I received a very pleasant phone call
from Mark Catley regarding my ps. It appears he is a West Midlands Catley
whose family made guns in the wars in the last century.....I'm not aware of those
Catley's however, sent him all the details of our catley rootsweb and
emailed links to him which he is going to browse. Anyone aware of the West
Midlands and Worcster Catley's?
Secondly, you may remember that I had been looking for Henry Arthur Catley
(Harry) in Australia and Mick Catley found his offspring and some extremely sad
history but....I am in touch with my distant cousins. When I first began
my tree because Harry was such a mystery to me and my father and his family I
put requests on message boards on Ancestry.com (about 4 years ago) and
yesterday!!!! I received an email via Ancestry.com from a Leuit in the Australian
Navy saying she had a medal and army service records belonging to Henry Arthur
Catley which her gt grandfather had in safekeeping for Henry in circa 1930
but her gt grandfather never saw him again.....She has been trying to find the
right Catley's to return these items to however, Harry's trail goes cold in
1940 when he joined up again in the Australian army with a next of kin not
his wife or common law wife or children!! I'm sure that as this tale unfolds I
will establish when where and how he died and where he is buried. Sadly one
of Harry's illegitimate children to his Australian common law wife was
fostered and endured the most awful childhood and then after joining up in the WW2
barely survived Changi Prison. I have found that Harry's legitimate son
married from the home that Harry left when he returned to Australia, in 1949 so I
am now persuing any children from that part of my tree.
Just thought I would update you on other interesting matters that happen as
a result of our site!
Thanks everyone! Lynda nee Catley
Lynda Powers
Hi all,
Little e-mail traffic to the net recently, very quiet.
Sharon, Elaine, Liz + self have been "off the air" due to getting very engrossed in the Herts/Cams/West Essex Cat*leys and what a time we are having!
It only goes to show that those "rural sons of the soil ancestors" led very complicated lives in terms of marriages and children and it is proving very difficult to try and unscramble their history.
We already have a matching Cat*ley dna test that shows the connection between some of the Hertfordshire Cat*leys with those bordering into Cambridgeshire and whilst this was not a great surprise given their geographical proximity, it does indicate that this "clan" was probably not in any way mixed with Cat*ley migrations from elsewhere in the Country.
Mick Catley, as a long time researcher of the different Herts/Cambs/Essex Catleys, has formed the belief or rather gut feeling that this rural agricultural clan is part of a gradual migration over many decades, of people who were probably originally located in the Eastern region of the Home Counties both within the London area itself and also out towards East Essex.
Recent contact with professional researchers who have studied many local families in the Herts/Essex agricultural community including the Cat*leys support this opinion of migration out into the country along what in the 17th + 16th centuries were drovers tracks bringing farm stock down to the London area from as far away as the Midlands and the Welsh borders.
This is backed up by Parish Record studies which show that the Cat*leys hardly feature at all in the Herts/Cambs parishes before circa 1700 yet the further South East one searches, so the evidence of Cat*ley presence goes further back in time.
Was talking to Liz C the other night and she brought up the subject of appealing for more volunteers who have Y dna Cat*ley?
Are there any Listers who know that their ancestors were originally London or East Essex based who would participate?
Your participation would be most welcome.
Regards
Tim Cattley
Hi Glynis,
The Alice Catley from Leeds is mine, and I can see that the GRO record that
the free bmd people have used for the transcription is wrong, however I am
sure I
have the marriage cert somewhere, as I have all the marriage details. I see
on the
Yorkshire bmd site her name is spelt correctly.
If I can find the certificate, I will send a correction to the free bmd
site...
When you say:-
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> On looking at the original document the name is quiet clearly CATLEY but a
> mistake had been made and therefore I did not find it because Catlett was
> not one of my misc. searches. The mistake seems to be have been a
> continuation of the previous surname so there are also two other erroneous
> entries
> The entry concerns marriages for July Aug Sep 1899 and the errors are as
> follows:-
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which original document are you referring to??
It would seem that we have to add 'caltey' and 'catlett' to our searches,
as well as 'oatley' and other weird combinations I have found.
All the best to the List for 2008
kayh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glynis Brown" <glynisb(a)shaw.ca>
To: "Catley List" <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 1:07 PM
Subject: [CATLEY] Lily Rosina Catley
> Hi All:
>
> Happy New Year to Everyone!
>
> My New Year started with what I hope is a good omen. I received an email
> from Marjorie Keays who is the daughter in law of Shirley Roberts who is
> the granddaughter of Lily Rosina Catley. Lily is a sibling of Elijah
> Catley my great grand father but I could find no record of her anywhere
> after the 1891 census. However once I had the name of her spouse, Thomas
> Arthur Roberts, I then found the record on Free BMD and ancestry.com
> however they had been transcribed incorrectly as CATLETT.
>
> On looking at the original document the name is quiet clearly CATLEY but a
> mistake had been made and therefore I did not find it because Catlett was
> not one of my misc. searches. The mistake seems to be have been a
> continuation of the previous surname so there are also two other erroneous
> entries
> The entry concerns marriages for July Aug Sep 1899 and the errors are as
> follows:-
>
> Alice Catley is listed as Alice CALTEY Leeds 9B 1011
> Maud Jessie Catley is listed at Maud Jessie CATLETT Bradford Y 9B 311
>
> I hope this helps some who maybe missing something!!
>
> Regards
> Glynis
>
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Hi All:
Happy New Year to Everyone!
My New Year started with what I hope is a good omen. I received an email from Marjorie Keays who is the daughter in law of Shirley Roberts who is the granddaughter of Lily Rosina Catley. Lily is a sibling of Elijah Catley my great grand father but I could find no record of her anywhere after the 1891 census. However once I had the name of her spouse, Thomas Arthur Roberts, I then found the record on Free BMD and ancestry.com however they had been transcribed incorrectly as CATLETT.
On looking at the original document the name is quiet clearly CATLEY but a mistake had been made and therefore I did not find it because Catlett was not one of my misc. searches. The mistake seems to be have been a continuation of the previous surname so there are also two other erroneous entries
The entry concerns marriages for July Aug Sep 1899 and the errors are as follows:-
Alice Catley is listed as Alice CALTEY Leeds 9B 1011
Maud Jessie Catley is listed at Maud Jessie CATLETT Bradford Y 9B 311
I hope this helps some who maybe missing something!!
Regards
Glynis