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Derek wrote....
> Tim's recent mention of Essex Catley's reminded me that on my recent visit
> to Essex I passed through Catley Cross, a small hamlet just north of
> Halstead on the A131. Too small to rate a mention on modern maps of
> England, I did however find it on an older map of just Essex.
>A search of the internet only produced articles on a veterinary practice
>situated there.
If you are not aware - 'Google' is running a beta map facility ... the
scroll function is rather impressive.
For 'Catley Cross' input the vet's post code .... CO9 2PE in the seacrh box
at http://maps.google.com/
...doesn't name the place but provides it's location.
David Meredith
Nottingham
The following are miscellaneous shipping notes, including notices of vessels launched, and of disasters at sea from P.E.I. newspapers from 1824 to 1871.
The Examiner, October 2, 1865:
In the Heather Belle from Brule, Sept. 29: Hon. Joseph Hensley and Miss Hensley, Mrs. Catley, Master Swabey, Messrs. George Peake, C. H. Kimpson, Rev. Mr. Wilkins, Mrs. Wilkins, Capt. Curtis, D. Clark, P. Monson, Miss Murdock, Rev. Mr. Duncan, Sullivan, John Lefurgy
1878
Jan - Mar
A Huge collection of transciptions from Hawkes Bay , Poverty Bay Newspaper
21st Jan 1878
Shipping-Arrivals 18th Manaia p.s. from Wairoa. Passengers- Miss HEALEY, Mesdames CATLEY, and DOUNCER and family, Messrs NEWTON, SMITH, SUTHERLAND, CATLEY, and RICHARDS (2).
19th Jan 1878
Shipping Port of Napier
18th Hawea for Poverty Bay, Tauranga, and Auckland. Passengers- Misses DAVIS, GAME, PIERCEY, VAUGHAN, LOWRY, ROBERTS, Mr and Mrs FIRTH, Mrs DAVIS, Mr and Mrs CATLEY, Mr and Mrs OATES and 2 children, Messrs WILSON, IRVINE, ANDERSON, MANARAPU, JACK, PETERS, SMITH, KELLS, HARVEY, one Native boy, and several others.
BALCLUTHA
of Sydney, WILLIAM BEEL, MASTER, Burthen 269 Tons
from the Port of BRISBANE & MARYBOROUGH to SYDNEY, New South Wales, 21st Sept. 1878
CATLEY CHARLES PASSENGER CABIN
CITY OF BRISBANE
OF SYDNEY, F C KNIGHT, MASTER, BURTHEN 504 TONS,
FROM THE PORT OF BRISBANE TO SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES, 7 DECEMBER 1874
CATLEY MISS PASSENGER CABIN
Hi there all,
If enough people are keen to participate then they could be done enmasse (if a strand of hair is required postage is cheap) for a discount at the cheapest reliable lab. With any luck analysis and interpretation of the data could be done at the same time.
Jocelyn
>
> From: "Bernie" <bcatley(a)aapt.net.au>
> Date: 2005/06/10 Fri PM 04:01:47 GMT+12:00
> To: CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: RE: [CAT...] Common Ancestry or not?
>
> Well Tim iam going to have to do it to see if there any pom in me Bernie in
> Perth.. gods land ..
>
> Gulf War Veteran..
> -----Original Message-----
> From: L L Milnes [mailto:landairwater@xnet.co.nz]
> Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 9:54 AM
> To: CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CAT...] Common Ancestry or not?
>
> A constructive idea Tim and one which I think I would go along with.
> Regards,
>
> Lyn Milnes
> in New Zealand
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Cattley" <timjhcat(a)tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:56 AM
> Subject: [CAT...] Common Ancestry or not?
>
>
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > Having been a lister now for some two and a half years and monitored and
> > participated in the ensuing correspondence and become aware as to just how
>
> > many Cat*ley researchers there are out there makes me realise that there
> > are many more genealogical lines bearing the name than I ever imagined
> > possible on what still is a very rare Sir Name.
> >
> > However, with so many people beavering away on their own individual
> > research lines, one would have thought that by now we might have come to
> > expect that at least a few "connections" between them could have been
> > unearthed, however to my knowledge, not one instance has occurred yet.
> > This is yet another indication that the Cat*ley history is far more
> > complicated than expected.
> >
> > One main point which has evolved from correspondence is the indication
> > that probably the Catley origins stem from two general areas within the
> > UK.
> >
> > 1.Lincolnshire/Yorkshire
> > 2.Essex/Suffolk/Herts and London.
> >
> > The theory that the name stemmed from one single source, ie the Gilbertine
>
> > Monastic settlement of Catley(Catthley as recorded in the Bishops
> > Transcripts) out in the Fens of Lincolnshire is neat but without any
> > foundation.
> >
> > I for one have been in the Doldrums on research, my family having got back
>
> > to the seeming limit of records which in my trees case seems to be 1590.
> > Where to go from here?
> >
> > One thought would be for those who can justify the cost would be to
> > undertake a DNA test. If sufficient people from across the Cat*ley Trees
> > were to do so, it could throw up some interesting results. For example
> > what if the Somerset Norton Catleys down in the SW were found to have a
> > DNA match with North Lincs Catleys just south of the River Humber? Logic
> > tells me that as we know that the Somerset Norton Catleys are a splinter
> > from the Herts (Anstey) Catleys and thus in the "Southern Catley Group" it
>
> > is unlikely that there should be a match with the Lincs "Northern Catleys"
>
> > but what if there is one, what does it tell us?
> >
> > I am starting the ball rolling by indicating that I have a DNA (SGM Plus)
> > analysis for my Cattley Tree which just to remind you, goes back to Robart
>
> > Catlay in the Parish of Normanton in Yorkshire circa 1600. The Lab that
> > did my DNA test assures me that the SGM Plus test provides results which
> > can be compared by any other suitable Lab. The results are to the layman
> > a meaningless set of figures but can obviously be sent to another
> > interested party who can go to another and more local testing Lab armed
> > with the figures and ask "please test my DNA against these results for
> > likely compatibility".
> >
> > Am very aware that there are numerous cases where DNA tests have bought
> > more sorrow than joy by proving that NO genetic connection exists.
> > However, this is usually on a one-to-one basis where two individuals are
> > hoping that they are related (for example, hoped for half brother/sister
> > relationships) but their hopes are dashed by the results.
> >
> > In our case however, I see it as an "all or nothing" or "nothing to loose"
>
> > test. It may throw up some interesting results which could prove useful
> > as to where future concentrations of research should be directed?
> >
> > I throw the issue over to you all for discussion.
> >
> > Regards to all
> >
> > Tim Cattley
> >
> >
> > ==== CATLEY Mailing List ====
> > See our CAT(T)LEY One-Name pages at :
> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hills/index.html
> >
> > ==============================
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> > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more:
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> >
> >
>
>
>
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Hi Tim and Catley researchers
I must admit that I normally reply directly to any with "possible"
connections to Hannah C. and/or Joseph Watson. The most recent was "Veronica
by way of Erica Hills" - posting of 4 May 2005 - but no response as yet. I
have not actively researched my wife's lines since 1999 when I managed to
get a few of my Bonney rellies together in Adelaide South Australia. I do,
however, pass on to others that I know are still "digging" - in the case of
the Catleys, it is usually Sharon Prendickij.
Regards
Reg for the Bonneys of suburban Sydney.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Cattley [mailto:timjhcat@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2005 7:57 AM
To: CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CAT...] Catley family connections
Hello Reg (for the Bonneys),
Am glad to hear that your wife via her |Hannah's line have found connections
with other people on the List.
You may have broadcast the fact but I for one did not pick up on this good
news. Does this mean that there are now a group of you all striving to
research back even further into what is obviously now a mutual ancestry?
I think that success stories such as yours should be written up, it may give
heart and spur others on to do more research themselves.
Best wishes Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: Bonney <jbonney1(a)bigpond.net.au>
To: <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 8:56 AM
Subject: [CAT...] Catley family connections
> Hi Tim and listers
>
>
>
> I - or, rather, my wife - have had several on the list who connect with
her
> Hannah's line, which is more than I can say for some of my lines!!!
Hi Tim and listers
I - or, rather, my wife - have had several on the list who connect with her
Hannah's line, which is more than I can say for some of my lines!!!
Regards
Reg for the Bonneys (especially Jennifer nee Livermore)
Hi Erica,
No, its an 1819 date unfortunately. I think I am just going to have
to look through all the parish records that I can get my hands on. Nothing
on scotlandspeople, and I think even the BDM office in Scotland searched
for me and could find nothing.
I've already spent more money than I care to remember on both those
sites - however the new 1861 census info on 1837online, is a boon.
Although I have found lots of errors, and wasted alot of money
because the transcription is iffy in places. You have to be really creative
with the name searches sometimes. The advanced search feature is
helpful here.
kayh
p.s. 1837online has a special offer at the moment, which I think finishes
on June 14, ...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erica Hills" <erica(a)hillsperth.com>
To: <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [CAT...] help needed...
> Hi Kay,
>
> You don't say what date you are looking at. If he was born after 1837 in
> England (Newcastle on Tyne) you would find the birth at the site
> http://www.1837online.com/. If he was born in Scotland then the site to
> try is : www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk which has post 1855 registrations as
> well as the old parish register births. Both sites require that you buy a
> number of "units or point" which you use to obtain the images of the
> indexes (5 pounds for England, 6 pounds for Scotland. Both sites have
> expiry dates on the units, the Scottish one being only 24 hours I think
> which is a pain - 1827 gives you about a month to use up the points.)
>
> Cheers...... Erica
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 06:53 PM 6/06/2005, you wrote:
>>Hullo everyone..
>>
>>Is there anyone who has researched births in Scotland? I have an exact
>>date and
>>place (Edinburgh) , which I know is right, but I don't know the parish and
>>apparently
>>alot of Scottish births weren't recorded ? These people were from N on
>>Tyne area
>>- would they have waited until they got home to register??
>>
>>any ideas??
>>
>>thanks
>>kayh
>>
>>
>>
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A constructive idea Tim and one which I think I would go along with.
Regards,
Lyn Milnes
in New Zealand
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Cattley" <timjhcat(a)tiscali.co.uk>
To: <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:56 AM
Subject: [CAT...] Common Ancestry or not?
> Hello everybody,
>
> Having been a lister now for some two and a half years and monitored and
> participated in the ensuing correspondence and become aware as to just how
> many Cat*ley researchers there are out there makes me realise that there
> are many more genealogical lines bearing the name than I ever imagined
> possible on what still is a very rare Sir Name.
>
> However, with so many people beavering away on their own individual
> research lines, one would have thought that by now we might have come to
> expect that at least a few "connections" between them could have been
> unearthed, however to my knowledge, not one instance has occurred yet.
> This is yet another indication that the Cat*ley history is far more
> complicated than expected.
>
> One main point which has evolved from correspondence is the indication
> that probably the Catley origins stem from two general areas within the
> UK.
>
> 1.Lincolnshire/Yorkshire
> 2.Essex/Suffolk/Herts and London.
>
> The theory that the name stemmed from one single source, ie the Gilbertine
> Monastic settlement of Catley(Catthley as recorded in the Bishops
> Transcripts) out in the Fens of Lincolnshire is neat but without any
> foundation.
>
> I for one have been in the Doldrums on research, my family having got back
> to the seeming limit of records which in my trees case seems to be 1590.
> Where to go from here?
>
> One thought would be for those who can justify the cost would be to
> undertake a DNA test. If sufficient people from across the Cat*ley Trees
> were to do so, it could throw up some interesting results. For example
> what if the Somerset Norton Catleys down in the SW were found to have a
> DNA match with North Lincs Catleys just south of the River Humber? Logic
> tells me that as we know that the Somerset Norton Catleys are a splinter
> from the Herts (Anstey) Catleys and thus in the "Southern Catley Group" it
> is unlikely that there should be a match with the Lincs "Northern Catleys"
> but what if there is one, what does it tell us?
>
> I am starting the ball rolling by indicating that I have a DNA (SGM Plus)
> analysis for my Cattley Tree which just to remind you, goes back to Robart
> Catlay in the Parish of Normanton in Yorkshire circa 1600. The Lab that
> did my DNA test assures me that the SGM Plus test provides results which
> can be compared by any other suitable Lab. The results are to the layman
> a meaningless set of figures but can obviously be sent to another
> interested party who can go to another and more local testing Lab armed
> with the figures and ask "please test my DNA against these results for
> likely compatibility".
>
> Am very aware that there are numerous cases where DNA tests have bought
> more sorrow than joy by proving that NO genetic connection exists.
> However, this is usually on a one-to-one basis where two individuals are
> hoping that they are related (for example, hoped for half brother/sister
> relationships) but their hopes are dashed by the results.
>
> In our case however, I see it as an "all or nothing" or "nothing to loose"
> test. It may throw up some interesting results which could prove useful
> as to where future concentrations of research should be directed?
>
> I throw the issue over to you all for discussion.
>
> Regards to all
>
> Tim Cattley
>
>
> ==== CATLEY Mailing List ====
> See our CAT(T)LEY One-Name pages at :
> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hills/index.html
>
> ==============================
> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the
> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more:
> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx
>
>
Well Tim iam going to have to do it to see if there any pom in me Bernie in
Perth.. gods land ..
Gulf War Veteran..
-----Original Message-----
From: L L Milnes [mailto:landairwater@xnet.co.nz]
Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 9:54 AM
To: CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CAT...] Common Ancestry or not?
A constructive idea Tim and one which I think I would go along with.
Regards,
Lyn Milnes
in New Zealand
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Cattley" <timjhcat(a)tiscali.co.uk>
To: <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:56 AM
Subject: [CAT...] Common Ancestry or not?
> Hello everybody,
>
> Having been a lister now for some two and a half years and monitored and
> participated in the ensuing correspondence and become aware as to just how
> many Cat*ley researchers there are out there makes me realise that there
> are many more genealogical lines bearing the name than I ever imagined
> possible on what still is a very rare Sir Name.
>
> However, with so many people beavering away on their own individual
> research lines, one would have thought that by now we might have come to
> expect that at least a few "connections" between them could have been
> unearthed, however to my knowledge, not one instance has occurred yet.
> This is yet another indication that the Cat*ley history is far more
> complicated than expected.
>
> One main point which has evolved from correspondence is the indication
> that probably the Catley origins stem from two general areas within the
> UK.
>
> 1.Lincolnshire/Yorkshire
> 2.Essex/Suffolk/Herts and London.
>
> The theory that the name stemmed from one single source, ie the Gilbertine
> Monastic settlement of Catley(Catthley as recorded in the Bishops
> Transcripts) out in the Fens of Lincolnshire is neat but without any
> foundation.
>
> I for one have been in the Doldrums on research, my family having got back
> to the seeming limit of records which in my trees case seems to be 1590.
> Where to go from here?
>
> One thought would be for those who can justify the cost would be to
> undertake a DNA test. If sufficient people from across the Cat*ley Trees
> were to do so, it could throw up some interesting results. For example
> what if the Somerset Norton Catleys down in the SW were found to have a
> DNA match with North Lincs Catleys just south of the River Humber? Logic
> tells me that as we know that the Somerset Norton Catleys are a splinter
> from the Herts (Anstey) Catleys and thus in the "Southern Catley Group" it
> is unlikely that there should be a match with the Lincs "Northern Catleys"
> but what if there is one, what does it tell us?
>
> I am starting the ball rolling by indicating that I have a DNA (SGM Plus)
> analysis for my Cattley Tree which just to remind you, goes back to Robart
> Catlay in the Parish of Normanton in Yorkshire circa 1600. The Lab that
> did my DNA test assures me that the SGM Plus test provides results which
> can be compared by any other suitable Lab. The results are to the layman
> a meaningless set of figures but can obviously be sent to another
> interested party who can go to another and more local testing Lab armed
> with the figures and ask "please test my DNA against these results for
> likely compatibility".
>
> Am very aware that there are numerous cases where DNA tests have bought
> more sorrow than joy by proving that NO genetic connection exists.
> However, this is usually on a one-to-one basis where two individuals are
> hoping that they are related (for example, hoped for half brother/sister
> relationships) but their hopes are dashed by the results.
>
> In our case however, I see it as an "all or nothing" or "nothing to loose"
> test. It may throw up some interesting results which could prove useful
> as to where future concentrations of research should be directed?
>
> I throw the issue over to you all for discussion.
>
> Regards to all
>
> Tim Cattley
>
>
> ==== CATLEY Mailing List ====
> See our CAT(T)LEY One-Name pages at :
> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hills/index.html
>
> ==============================
> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the
> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more:
> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx
>
>
==== CATLEY Mailing List ====
See our CAT(T)LEY One-Name pages at :
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hills/index.html
==============================
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Dear All,
Tim, this is such an interesting avenue that is available to family
searchers
now, and there is a Heath organising this for the Heath tree.. the only
thing
that put me off removing some of my husband's fast disappearing hair,
was the cost, which was $100 US!. Can you tell us a
bit more about the mechanics of it ?.. i.e. I think they can
do it with a snippet of hair - is that correct? If it is, and someone
wanted to
participate, they could just send it in an envelope to the lab you have used
presumably.
We also have to consider having a few examples from each 'area' or 'line',
just in case
we aren't who we think we are. If, for example, both you and Erica have
the same 'markers' then we can be fairly confident that if anyone else
matches
those 'markers' that they are someway connected to your lot.
kayh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Cattley" <timjhcat(a)tiscali.co.uk>
To: <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 8:56 AM
Subject: [CAT...] Common Ancestry or not?
> Hello everybody,
>
> Having been a lister now for some two and a half years and monitored and
> participated in the ensuing correspondence and become aware as to just how
> many Cat*ley researchers there are out there makes me realise that there
> are many more genealogical lines bearing the name than I ever imagined
> possible on what still is a very rare Sir Name.
>
> However, with so many people beavering away on their own individual
> research lines, one would have thought that by now we might have come to
> expect that at least a few "connections" between them could have been
> unearthed, however to my knowledge, not one instance has occurred yet.
> This is yet another indication that the Cat*ley history is far more
> complicated than expected.
>
> One main point which has evolved from correspondence is the indication
> that probably the Catley origins stem from two general areas within the
> UK.
>
> 1.Lincolnshire/Yorkshire
> 2.Essex/Suffolk/Herts and London.
>
> The theory that the name stemmed from one single source, ie the Gilbertine
> Monastic settlement of Catley(Catthley as recorded in the Bishops
> Transcripts) out in the Fens of Lincolnshire is neat but without any
> foundation.
>
> I for one have been in the Doldrums on research, my family having got back
> to the seeming limit of records which in my trees case seems to be 1590.
> Where to go from here?
>
> One thought would be for those who can justify the cost would be to
> undertake a DNA test. If sufficient people from across the Cat*ley Trees
> were to do so, it could throw up some interesting results. For example
> what if the Somerset Norton Catleys down in the SW were found to have a
> DNA match with North Lincs Catleys just south of the River Humber? Logic
> tells me that as we know that the Somerset Norton Catleys are a splinter
> from the Herts (Anstey) Catleys and thus in the "Southern Catley Group" it
> is unlikely that there should be a match with the Lincs "Northern Catleys"
> but what if there is one, what does it tell us?
>
> I am starting the ball rolling by indicating that I have a DNA (SGM Plus)
> analysis for my Cattley Tree which just to remind you, goes back to Robart
> Catlay in the Parish of Normanton in Yorkshire circa 1600. The Lab that
> did my DNA test assures me that the SGM Plus test provides results which
> can be compared by any other suitable Lab. The results are to the layman
> a meaningless set of figures but can obviously be sent to another
> interested party who can go to another and more local testing Lab armed
> with the figures and ask "please test my DNA against these results for
> likely compatibility".
>
> Am very aware that there are numerous cases where DNA tests have bought
> more sorrow than joy by proving that NO genetic connection exists.
> However, this is usually on a one-to-one basis where two individuals are
> hoping that they are related (for example, hoped for half brother/sister
> relationships) but their hopes are dashed by the results.
>
> In our case however, I see it as an "all or nothing" or "nothing to loose"
> test. It may throw up some interesting results which could prove useful
> as to where future concentrations of research should be directed?
>
> I throw the issue over to you all for discussion.
>
> Regards to all
>
> Tim Cattley
>
>
> ==== CATLEY Mailing List ====
> See our CAT(T)LEY One-Name pages at :
> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hills/index.html
>
> ==============================
> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the
> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more:
> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx
>
>
Hello everybody,
Having been a lister now for some two and a half years and monitored and participated in the ensuing correspondence and become aware as to just how many Cat*ley researchers there are out there makes me realise that there are many more genealogical lines bearing the name than I ever imagined possible on what still is a very rare Sir Name.
However, with so many people beavering away on their own individual research lines, one would have thought that by now we might have come to expect that at least a few "connections" between them could have been unearthed, however to my knowledge, not one instance has occurred yet. This is yet another indication that the Cat*ley history is far more complicated than expected.
One main point which has evolved from correspondence is the indication that probably the Catley origins stem from two general areas within the UK.
1.Lincolnshire/Yorkshire
2.Essex/Suffolk/Herts and London.
The theory that the name stemmed from one single source, ie the Gilbertine Monastic settlement of Catley(Catthley as recorded in the Bishops Transcripts) out in the Fens of Lincolnshire is neat but without any foundation.
I for one have been in the Doldrums on research, my family having got back to the seeming limit of records which in my trees case seems to be 1590. Where to go from here?
One thought would be for those who can justify the cost would be to undertake a DNA test. If sufficient people from across the Cat*ley Trees were to do so, it could throw up some interesting results. For example what if the Somerset Norton Catleys down in the SW were found to have a DNA match with North Lincs Catleys just south of the River Humber? Logic tells me that as we know that the Somerset Norton Catleys are a splinter from the Herts (Anstey) Catleys and thus in the "Southern Catley Group" it is unlikely that there should be a match with the Lincs "Northern Catleys" but what if there is one, what does it tell us?
I am starting the ball rolling by indicating that I have a DNA (SGM Plus) analysis for my Cattley Tree which just to remind you, goes back to Robart Catlay in the Parish of Normanton in Yorkshire circa 1600. The Lab that did my DNA test assures me that the SGM Plus test provides results which can be compared by any other suitable Lab. The results are to the layman a meaningless set of figures but can obviously be sent to another interested party who can go to another and more local testing Lab armed with the figures and ask "please test my DNA against these results for likely compatibility".
Am very aware that there are numerous cases where DNA tests have bought more sorrow than joy by proving that NO genetic connection exists. However, this is usually on a one-to-one basis where two individuals are hoping that they are related (for example, hoped for half brother/sister relationships) but their hopes are dashed by the results.
In our case however, I see it as an "all or nothing" or "nothing to loose" test. It may throw up some interesting results which could prove useful as to where future concentrations of research should be directed?
I throw the issue over to you all for discussion.
Regards to all
Tim Cattley
Hullo everyone..
Is there anyone who has researched births in Scotland? I have an exact date and
place (Edinburgh) , which I know is right, but I don't know the parish and apparently
alot of Scottish births weren't recorded ? These people were from N on Tyne area
- would they have waited until they got home to register??
any ideas??
thanks
kayh