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Hello all,
Can anyone lay claim to James Cattley shown on the 1851 Census as residing in Scarborough occupation hotel porter along with his wife Jane and their two children Mary Jane and Jemima?
The 1861 Census shows then as having moved within Scarborough and now James is recorded as a railway porter and that his 24 year old son Joseph.L. Cattley is back living at the same address along with James.W.H Cattley aged 9 their youngest issue as well as Mary Jane (now married, sir name Temple) and not forgetting Jemima.
Chris' other BMD's for the immediate period clearly show that James and Jane are recorded as marrying and later their children are all also recorded under the name Catley not Cattley. The name change to Cattley seems only to refer to the Census records.
This is a clear illustration of just how one should not attempt to pre suppose that any Cat*ley name settled into one or the other main spelling lines without due caution.
Tim
This Volume has an article by Ernest Heatherington concerning William Cattley of Barnet who was instrumental in introducing the Orchid as a genus into Europe in the early 1800's.
It covers Ernests researches when he realised that the work of William had gone unnoticed and that there was nothing by way of any lasting memorial to him other than the Orchid name: Cattleya.
Ernest was responsible in organising a memorial service for William at Chipping Barnet Church in 1993 where he is buried along with his parents.
I attended this service as did a number of other Cattleys of the same Tree who are all related to William.
The Orchid Review, December 1992 is no longer available from the archives of The American Orchid Society as a back order and so if the person who has my copy, sent on loan to you reads this, please would you return it to me. I can not recall who you are but I hope your conscience will come into play and see you return it to its rightful owner!!!
Hopefully ............ Tim
Hi Ros and all,
As Tim has noted all the Pernau and Rio de Janiero CATTLEYs belong on one
or other of his various trees. The only Percys I know of are Percy F
CATTLEY born 1Q 1919 in Royston (discovered during Liz Cordingley's BMD
searches) and Percy b 1897 2Q Malton, from Gerald Coveney's BMD searches.
On our tree we have Percy Frances C. died NSW Aus, 1976, and his son Percy
Hathaway C. Is anyone on this list descended from the latter born 1916 ?
And who owns Percy G in Buenes Aires ???
You mentioned to me privately Ros, that the St Petersburg records were not
in the Consular Records SAG holds. This is because there was a British
Chapel in St Petersburg that returned its own records. These are held in
the Guildhall, London, but have been filmed by the Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter Day Saints and can be ordered at any of numerous worldwide Family
History Centres they have. We have 5 here in Perth and I think about 30
around Western Australia just to show how widespread they are, so anyone
can find a FHS near them and order the films in should they wish. There
are 5 films under the heading :
CHURCH OF ENGLAND IN RUSSIA. CHAPEL OF THE BRITISH FACTORY (ST. PETERSBURG)
}Baptisms, marriages, burials (Moscow), 1706-1723
}Baptisms, marriages, burials (Archangel), 1719
}Baptisms, marriages, burials, 1723-1815 FHL BRITISH Film 576998 Item 1
Baptisms, marriages, burials, 1816-1849 FHL BRITISH Film 574494
Baptisms, marriages, burials, 1850-1866 FHL BRITISH Film 563012
Baptiams, marriages, burials, 1867-1895 FHL BRITISH Film 563013 Item 1
Baptisms, marriages, burials, 1894, 1896-1901 FHL BRITISH Film 1786591 Item 1
The bare bones of these records can be seen at familysearch.org, but Joan
CATTLEY in New Zealand has had the films out and found that ALL the guests
at a marriage, for example, are listed in the Parish record, and she also
found some weird and wonderful
CATTLEYs including one whose occupation was "Clown in a circus". I know
you sent me a copy Joan, but can't lay my hands on it at the moment - can
you ? It would be fun to see who he was. Anyway, there was a great
deal more information in the records.
One day when I am old and grey (oops I'm almost there already) I plan to
get the films out and go through them myself.
Thanks and keep up the good work Ros !!!!
Cheers........... Erica
At 5/11/2004 09:35 AM, you wrote:
>Don't know if any of you are interested but here are the UK Consular Births
>I have indexed so far. I will index some more on Wednesday. Ros Chapman
>1911-1915 CATLEY Percy G Buenos
>Aires see Vol 19
>1921-1925 CATLEY Percy G Buenos
>Aires 19 38
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Hi Tim
I doubt if the feature was named after William Aubrey Catley.
According to my information he was in the policeforce in Hobart and after a
long career (35yrs)retired as a sergeant. He apparently set up a tea house
in Newtown, Hobart for his retirement living.
He was my geat-great-grand-father's brother.
Regards,
Dennis Catley
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Cattley" <timjhcat(a)tiscali.co.uk>
To: <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [CAT...] Mount Cattley, or the Cattley Ridge.
> Howdy Mick,
>
> I rather thought you may well be the first lister to respond to my query
and
> once again come to my rescue!
> Yes indeed. I was aware that my John Cattley was involved in The Van
> Diemans Land Company but knowing that he never set foot outside the UK
made
> me think that possibly the William Aubrey Catley who emigrated there might
> have had a hand in things.
> It seems rather a poor old do when someone on the opposite side of the
globe
> has places named after him just because he was a Director of the Company
but
> then if the Company did most of the exploration in the N.W. of Tasmania, I
> suppose that those employees on the ground in charge, felt obliged to name
> features after the Directors who funded the exercise.
> Anyway, thanks for confirming things for me.
>
> Much obliged, Regards Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mick Catley <catleym(a)netspeed.com.au>
> To: <CATLEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 12:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [CAT...] Mount Cattley, or the Cattley Ridge.
>
>
> > G'day Tim,
> >
> > The Cattley, commemorated at various sites in Tasmania is John Cattley,
a
> > director of the Van Diemen's Land Company. This is the same John
> > Cattley, wool trader and Russian merchant who is in your family line.
> The
> > Company was formed in England in 1825 and was granted the rights by
Royal
> > Charter to 250 000 acres of unsettled land to raise fine wool sheep on a
> > large scale. The company explored, surveyed and developed the
> > northwest. The history of the company is well documented in Tasmania.
My
> > understanding is that John Cattley never set foot in Tasmania.
> >
> > >There is no connection with William Aubery Catley 's family whom you
> > >correctly sourced to Bristol.
> > >
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> > Regards,
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> > Mick Catley
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Don't know if any of you are interested but here are the UK Consular Births
I have indexed so far. I will index some more on Wednesday. Ros Chapman
name
place of registration volume page
1849-1885
CATTLEY none
1886-1890
CATTLEY Constance Emily
Pernau 9
1399
Donald James
Pernau 9
1399
1891-1895
CATTLEY Constance Emily
Pernau 9
1399
Donald James
Pernau 9
1399
Gilbert Acheson
Pernau 9
1399
Helen Edith
Pernau 9
1399
Maud Evelyn
Pernau 9
1399
1896-1910
CATTLEY none
1911-1915
CATLEY Percy G
Buenos Aires see Vol
19
CATTLEY Richard M J
Rio de Janeiro 179
1916-1920
CATTLEY Terence P de O
Rio de Janeiro 240
1921-1925
CATLEY Percy G
Buenos Aires 19 38
G'day Tim,
The Cattley, commemorated at various sites in Tasmania is John Cattley, a
director of the Van Diemen's Land Company. This is the same John
Cattley, wool trader and Russian merchant who is in your family line. The
Company was formed in England in 1825 and was granted the rights by Royal
Charter to 250 000 acres of unsettled land to raise fine wool sheep on a
large scale. The company explored, surveyed and developed the
northwest. The history of the company is well documented in Tasmania. My
understanding is that John Cattley never set foot in Tasmania.
>There is no connection with William Aubery Catley 's family whom you
>correctly sourced to Bristol.
>
>
>==============================
>New! OneWorldTree. Building Trees. Connecting Families. Learn more:
>http://www.ancestry.com/s13970/rd.ashx
Regards,
Mick Catley
Hello again,
You will recall that a few weeks ago I wrote in concerning a mysterious Steven Cattley who spent some time in Cuba and there married a Camilla Dalcour. After his death Camilla then married Julian Fontana who was a personal friend of Chopin.
I could not identify this Cattley and asked for help.
No takers from the listers but a few days ago, by sheer coincidence and through a private source, comes a query from an Australian researching his daughter-in laws Tree who finds a connection with mine through the TENNANT family.
It turns out that the Steven Cattley was infact Stephen Cattley Tennant and that the Chopin Society web site that I had spotted had got it all wrong by omitting the sir name and instead assuming his second christian name, no wonder I could not identify him!
With the new information to hand, it was obvious that T.C.T. was infact one of the issue from James Tennant and Harriet Cattley who married in 1791 and thus a member of my own Tree!
The end result is that the person concerned has very kindly supplied me with all his TENNANT research and so I can add some 71 new names to my Tree, what a bonus and totally coincidental. Talk about being lucky or what?
Regards Tim Cattley