Never posted here before but just thought I'd throw this in that I am descended from a
Cates but my g-g-gfather killed a man and then changed our names to Thompson. So there
may be many of the Cates we will never know about. Thanks.> From:
cates-dna-request(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: CATES-DNA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 24> To:
cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:00:37 -0700> > > >
Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Cates clan (Bruce A. Cates)> > >
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1> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:06:50 -0500> From: "Bruce A. Cates"
<catesba(a)roadrunner.com>> Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan> To:
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charset="us-ascii"> > Hi Christine,> > I sincerely hope that no one
is saying all Cate/Cates are anything. To> address your questions: the Y-DNA only
follows the male line directly from> father to son. The Mt or mitochondrial DNA follows
only the female line from> mother to daughter. I had just put a little blurb on the
Cates cousin site> trying to remind folks that "family" is a much broader
term than who can be> proven to be connected by DNA.> > The female lines are very
important to documenting relationships and there> are several members in the current
Cates DNA study who have entered their> mitochondrial DNA results. We need many, many
more to help document> relationships. There are a number of different circumstances in
which your> blood relatives will have neither your DNA nor your name. Paternal
cousins> are a prime example of this but they are nonetheless your cousins.> >
You will find that throughout history particularly "ancient history">
families represented clans of people who simply live together. Some were> related by
blood somewhere not. As time progressed the dominant bloodlines> in newsgroups might
change several times. Even the modern history there is a> long-standing tradition both
in Celtic culture and in the culture of early> America to take in individuals who were
orphaned, distant family members, or> silly folks who are in need.> > Like every
other family name you will find a great number of bloodlines> which originate from all
over the world and from every race color creed and> national origin on the planet. This
is particularly true with Americans. To> be a Cates does not mean that you are a member
of the dominant bloodlines> currently illustrated the DNA study. There are countless
other numbers of> bloodlines which have not yet been discovered as far as the study
is> concerned and/or peoples whose name fits or is a derivative of the family>
name> > > The more maternal DNA lines we can get in the study the easier it's
going to> be too scientifically layout the connections to the male bloodlines. If
you> have a female Cates bloodline, I would urge you to join the study. > > Your
Cousin,> > Bruce> > > -----Original Message-----> From:
cates-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:cates-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com]> On Behalf Of
Christine Cates> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:39 PM> To:
cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan> > Call me young and
nieve, but I've a question.> > I know that many types of DNA testing follows the
Y chromosome. However, let> s say a particular male member of the Cates family has only
daughters. Those> daughters do not "end" the Cates line on that branch. In
matters of blood,> it seems rather silly to chop out all female members of a tree. Yes
it's> easier to follow names, but a name is just that, a name. Blood can't
be> changed. I found a while back a branch of Cates that got their name by> adopting
the name. There was no blood link at all. Therefore, the name was> just a name, not a
blood link, not to be added to the original Cates family> tree.> > In this
particular argument, I would say what happened was the original> Cates fed back to
England / Scotland / etc. but when the Cates came> State-side, a native branch entered
into the family.> > Again, just offering my opinion, not claiming any special
know-how. Just don> t see the point in arguing.> > ~Christine~>
-------Original Message-------> > From: hcates123(a)hotmail.com> Date: 11/26/2008
8:56:30 PM> To: cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan> >
Kim,> > Before I forget, I only blog about my own/husband's family tree. I
don't> blog about the "Cates" name in general. This is about our own>
genetics/ancestry. If you have tested genetically, and you don't mind, I'd> be
interested in knowing what your haplogroup is, and have you been able to> narrow down
to a specific tribe?> > Helen> > > > Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:25:15
-0500> From: kimberley.lyman(a)whro.org> To:> cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com> Subject:
Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan> > Ok, you just> mentioned that you could not connect
to these CATES lines. My line CATES is> the Indian line. Just suggesting alternative
since you mentioned you could> not find the CATES line MARY was connected to.> >
If his DNA test was> totally European than he/you are not related to my Indian CATES
Line. Did> you have the specific test CHECKING for NATIVE DNA? Anyway, If you are
going> to blog about the CATES line at least put a disclaimer that there IS a line>
of CATES family that IS INDIAN, I know my family and the tribe would> appreciate
it.> > Sincerely,> > Kim > > > -----Original Message----->
From:> cates-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of hcates123(a)hotmail.com> Sent:
Tue> 11/25/2008 3:51 PM> To: cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA]>
Cates clan> > > Were you referring to my husband's "indian" claim?
My> husband's paternal DNA tested r1b1b2 - which is totally European. His>
maternal mtDNA tested H - European too.> > Some in his family were upset (or>
seemed that way) when we explained that the Cates were NOT indian. I do blog> about the
Cates/my own family history. Will be posting Cates family pictures> as soon as I can
locate the photos. > >
http://sluglines.blogspot.com/> > If> you're a
distant cousin, stop by and say hello. We are trying to form a> family tree. My husband
knows nothing about his paternal grandfather. His> dad's name is Milton Cates (East
Texas)> > Helen > Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008> 15:10:08 -0500> From:
kimberley.lyman(a)whro.org> To: cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com;> monniejean(a)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan> > Have you> tried to look into the Indian
portion of your Cates family? If you are> unable to connect to the scottish branch you
may very well have an indian> connection> > Sincerely,> > Kim Lyman>
WHRO Public Television> 5200 Hampton> Blvd> Norfolk Va 23508> 757-889-9459>
kimberly.lyman(a)whro.org> >> /Users/kimberlyl/Desktop/ID.psd> > > >
> -----Original Message-----> From:> cates-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of
monniejean(a)comcast.net> Sent:> Mon 11/24/2008 3:52 PM> To: Cates, Bruce>
Subject: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan> >> > > > Hi, Bruce, > > > >
Count me in, too, Bruce, I'm very interested. My> email is monniejean(a)comcast.com
and my home address is 6655 SW Queen Lane,> Beaverton, OR 97008. Family members are me
and husband Dee. Kids are all> grown and have families and I'm trying to figure out
which one is going!> >> to take charge of the family history. I have had no luck
finding out which> Cates family my Mary belonged to, but I have some suspicions from
Cates> records in Kentucky and Missouri. Thanks, Bruce.> >>
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