Hi everyone,
This is my first time writing to this group. Does anyone have any solid historical
information on how James Cate came to Portsmouth before/during the 1650's? I am
descended from him and have been trying to figure out how he, and possibly his family,
came to America. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
-Matt
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Subject: CATES-DNA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 24
To: cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 8:00 AM
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Cates clan (Bruce A. Cates)
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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:06:50 -0500
From: "Bruce A. Cates"
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Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan
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Hi Christine,
I sincerely hope that no one is saying all Cate/Cates are
anything. To
address your questions: the Y-DNA only follows the male
line directly from
father to son. The Mt or mitochondrial DNA follows only the
female line from
mother to daughter. I had just put a little blurb on the
Cates cousin site
trying to remind folks that "family" is a much
broader term than who can be
proven to be connected by DNA.
The female lines are very important to documenting
relationships and there
are several members in the current Cates DNA study who have
entered their
mitochondrial DNA results. We need many, many more to help
document
relationships. There are a number of different
circumstances in which your
blood relatives will have neither your DNA nor your name.
Paternal cousins
are a prime example of this but they are nonetheless your
cousins.
You will find that throughout history particularly
"ancient history"
families represented clans of people who simply live
together. Some were
related by blood somewhere not. As time progressed the
dominant bloodlines
in newsgroups might change several times. Even the modern
history there is a
long-standing tradition both in Celtic culture and in the
culture of early
America to take in individuals who were orphaned, distant
family members, or
silly folks who are in need.
Like every other family name you will find a great number
of bloodlines
which originate from all over the world and from every race
color creed and
national origin on the planet. This is particularly true
with Americans. To
be a Cates does not mean that you are a member of the
dominant bloodlines
currently illustrated the DNA study. There are countless
other numbers of
bloodlines which have not yet been discovered as far as the
study is
concerned and/or peoples whose name fits or is a derivative
of the family
name
The more maternal DNA lines we can get in the study the
easier it's going to
be too scientifically layout the connections to the male
bloodlines. If you
have a female Cates bloodline, I would urge you to join the
study.
Your Cousin,
Bruce
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From: cates-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
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On Behalf Of Christine Cates
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:39 PM
To: cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan
Call me young and nieve, but I've a question.
I know that many types of DNA testing follows the Y
chromosome. However, let
s say a particular male member of the Cates family has only
daughters. Those
daughters do not "end" the Cates line on that
branch. In matters of blood,
it seems rather silly to chop out all female members of a
tree. Yes it's
easier to follow names, but a name is just that, a name.
Blood can't be
changed. I found a while back a branch of Cates that got
their name by
adopting the name. There was no blood link at all.
Therefore, the name was
just a name, not a blood link, not to be added to the
original Cates family
tree.
In this particular argument, I would say what happened was
the original
Cates fed back to England / Scotland / etc. but when the
Cates came
State-side, a native branch entered into the family.
Again, just offering my opinion, not claiming any special
know-how. Just don
t see the point in arguing.
~Christine~
-------Original Message-------
From: hcates123(a)hotmail.com
Date: 11/26/2008 8:56:30 PM
To: cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan
Kim,
Before I forget, I only blog about my own/husband's
family tree. I don't
blog about the "Cates" name in general. This is
about our own
genetics/ancestry. If you have tested genetically, and you
don't mind, I'd
be interested in knowing what your haplogroup is, and have
you been able to
narrow down to a specific tribe?
Helen
> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:25:15 -0500> From:
kimberley.lyman(a)whro.org> To:
cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates
clan> > Ok, you just
mentioned that you could not connect to these CATES lines.
My line CATES is
the Indian line. Just suggesting alternative since you
mentioned you could
not find the CATES line MARY was connected to.> > If
his DNA test was
totally European than he/you are not related to my Indian
CATES Line. Did
you have the specific test CHECKING for NATIVE DNA? Anyway,
If you are going
to blog about the CATES line at least put a disclaimer that
there IS a line
of CATES family that IS INDIAN, I know my family and the
tribe would
appreciate it.> > Sincerely,> > Kim > >
> -----Original Message-----> From:
cates-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of
hcates123(a)hotmail.com> Sent: Tue
11/25/2008 3:51 PM> To: cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com>
Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA]
Cates clan> > > Were you referring to my
husband's "indian" claim? My
husband's paternal DNA tested r1b1b2 - which is totally
European. His
maternal mtDNA tested H - European too.> > Some in
his family were upset (or
seemed that way) when we explained that the Cates were NOT
indian. I do blog
about the Cates/my own family history. Will be posting
Cates family pictures
as soon as I can locate the photos. > >
http://sluglines.blogspot.com/> > If
you're a distant cousin, stop by and say hello. We are
trying to form a
family tree. My husband knows nothing about his paternal
grandfather. His
dad's name is Milton Cates (East Texas)> > Helen
> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008
15:10:08 -0500> From: kimberley.lyman(a)whro.org> To:
cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com;
monniejean(a)comcast.net> Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates
clan> > Have you
tried to look into the Indian portion of your Cates family?
If you are
unable to connect to the scottish branch you may very well
have an indian
connection> > Sincerely,> > Kim Lyman> WHRO
Public Television> 5200 Hampton
Blvd> Norfolk Va 23508> 757-889-9459>
kimberly.lyman(a)whro.org> >
/Users/kimberlyl/Desktop/ID.psd> > > > >
-----Original Message-----> From:
cates-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of
monniejean(a)comcast.net> Sent:
Mon 11/24/2008 3:52 PM> To: Cates, Bruce> Subject:
[CATES-DNA] Cates clan> >
> > > Hi, Bruce, > > > > Count me in,
too, Bruce, I'm very interested. My
email is monniejean(a)comcast.com and my home address is 6655
SW Queen Lane,
Beaverton, OR 97008. Family members are me and husband Dee.
Kids are all
grown and have families and I'm trying to figure out
which one is going!> >
to take charge of the family history. I have had no luck
finding out which
Cates family my Mary belonged to, but I have some
suspicions from Cates
records in Kentucky and Missouri. Thanks, Bruce.> >
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