Kimberly,
You said, and I quote: "If you are going to blog about the CATES line at least put a
disclaimer that there IS a line of CATES family that IS INDIAN, I know my family and the
tribe would appreciate it."
You told me to add this disclaimer AFTER I had repeatedly told you that my husband is NOT
indian. This isn't a racist statement, it's a FACT.
This is a personal blog on MY family tree. Your maternal ancestry has NO bearing on my
paternal Cates research.
Since you were so insistent, I asked for proof of your mtDNA haplogroup. You got offended
and never answered my question.
Also, I haven't hit a brick wall. But what's worse? A brick wall, or going on a
wild goose chase? I'd rather stick to the facts.
Have a good day.
Helen
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:49:06 -0500> From:
kimberley.lyman(a)whro.org> To: cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates
clan> > I never said you had to ADD anything to your line! You said you could not
connect to any of these CATES lines I JUST SUGGESTED an alternative since WE ARE AN
alternative line of CATES FAMILY. > > I MOST CERTAINLY did not suggest you change
anything in YOUR line and I do not appreciate you implying I was PUSHY when all I was
trying to do was help. The first RULE of Genealogy research is if you hit a BRICK WALL
then you are probably going in the wrong direction for your family tree.> >
Seriously folks, I only offer our line as an alternative if you cannot connect to these
other lines of Scotti English ect.> > Sincerely,> > Kim Lyman> WHRO Public
Television> 5200 Hampton Blvd> Norfolk Va 23508> 757-889-9459>
kimberly.lyman(a)whro.org> > /Users/kimberlyl/Desktop/ID.psd> > > > >
-----Original Message-----> From: cates-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of
hcates123(a)hotmail.com> Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 7:34 PM> To: cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com>
Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan> > > Nobody's arguing. I was responding
to a firm (pushy) request that I needed to ADD Native American ancestry to my
husband's family tree. > > My daughter is a bloodline Cates, but her MtDNA will
only show what I had passed down to her. I fail to see how MY family tree, that I had
passed to my daughter (who's a true bloodline Cates) will have any bearing on
furthering this research. If this is the case, then I'm probably in the wrong
study/clan.> > I am only interested in finding DIRECT biological descendants (not
intermarriage family trees) of the Cates males. If we can find DNA matches, and matching
oral histories, then BINGO. > Thank you,> Helen Cates > > Date: Thu, 4 Dec
2008 12:38:32 -0700> From: Christine(a)MountainComputerWizards.com> To:
cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan> > Call me young and
nieve, but I've a question.> > I know that many types of DNA testing follows the
Y chromosome. However, let> s say a particular male member of the Cates family has only
daughters. Those> daughters do not "end" the Cates line on that branch. In
matters of blood,> it seems rather silly to chop out all female members of a tree. Yes
it's> easier to follow names, but a name is just that, a name. Blood can't
be> changed. I found a while back a branch of Cates that got their name by> adopting
the name. There was no blood link at all. Therefore, the name was> just a name, not a
blood link, not to be added to the original Cates family> tree.> > In this
particular argument, I would say what happened was the original> Cates fed back to
England / Scotland / etc. but when the Cates came> State-side, a native branch
enter!> ed into the family.> > Again, just offering my opinion, not claiming any
special know-how. Just don> t see the point in arguing.> > ~Christine~>
-------Original Message-------> > From: hcates123(a)hotmail.com> Date: 11/26/2008
8:56:30 PM> To: cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan> >
Kim,> > Before I forget, I only blog about my own/husband's family tree. I
don't> blog about the "Cates" name in general. This is about our own>
genetics/ancestry. If you have tested genetically, and you don't mind, I'd> be
interested in knowing what your haplogroup is, and have you been able to> narrow down
to a specific tribe?> > Helen> > > > Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:25:15
-0500> From: kimberley.lyman(a)whro.org> To:> cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com> Subject:
Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan> > Ok, you just> mentioned that you could not connect
to these CATES lines. My line CATES is> the Indian line. Just suggesting alternative
since you mentioned you could> not find the CATES line MARY wa!> s connected to.>
> If his DNA test was> totally European than he/you a> re not related to my
Indian CATES Line. Did> you have the specific test CHECKING for NATIVE DNA? Anyway, If
you are going> to blog about the CATES line at least put a disclaimer that there IS a
line> of CATES family that IS INDIAN, I know my family and the tribe would>
appreciate it.> > Sincerely,> > Kim > > > -----Original
Message-----> From:> cates-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of
hcates123(a)hotmail.com> Sent: Tue> 11/25/2008 3:51 PM> To:
cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA]> Cates clan> > > Were you
referring to my husband's "indian" claim? My> husband's paternal DNA
tested r1b1b2 - which is totally European. His> maternal mtDNA tested H - European
too.> > Some in his family were upset (or> seemed that way) when we explained
that the Cates were NOT indian. I do blog> about the Cates/my own family history. Will
be posting Cates family pictures> as soon as I can locate the photos. > >
http://sluglines.blogspot.com/> > If> you're a distant cousin, stop by
and!> say hello. We are trying to form a> family tree. My husband knows nothing
about his paternal grandfather. His> dad's name is Milton Cates (East Texas)>
> Helen > Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008> 15:10:08 -0500> From:
kimberley.lyman(a)whro.org> To: cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com;> monniejean(a)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan> > Have you> tried to look into the Indian
portion of your Cates family? If you are> unable to connect to the scottish branch you
may very well have an indian> connection> > Sincerely,> > Kim Lyman>
WHRO Public Television> 5200 Hampton> Blvd> Norfolk Va 23508> 757-889-9459>
kimberly.lyman(a)whro.org> >> /Users/kimberlyl/Desktop/ID.psd> > > >
> -----Original Message-----> From:> cates-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of
monniejean(a)comcast.net> Sent:> Mon 11/24/2008 3:52 PM> To: Cates, Bruce>
Subject: [CATES-DNA] Cates clan> >> > > > Hi, Bruce, > > > >
Count me in, too, Bruce, I'm very interested. My> email is monniejean(a)comcast.com
and my home address is 66!> 55 SW Queen Lane,> Beaverton, OR 97008. Family members
are me and husb> and Dee. Kids are all> grown and have families and I'm trying
to figure out which one is going!> >> to take charge of the family history. I
have had no luck finding out which> Cates family my Mary belonged to, but I have some
suspicions from Cates> records in Kentucky and Missouri. Thanks, Bruce.> >>
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