Hi Helen,
Folks are running with an erroneous message here. The note sent by Sister
Mary Francis was intended for me and sent in error to this group. It
pertains to the Scot Title of Chief NOT a Native American anything... Please
disregard it.
By the bye, is the male Native American was in a direct line (father-son,
father-son, etc.) it would show up in a Y-DNA test. If it was through his
mother's line it will not. Broader testing would be necessary.
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: cates-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:cates-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of hcates123(a)hotmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 4:01 PM
To: cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Chief George + CATES
Hello,
I'm somehow catching the tail end of this conversation. I skimmed over my
email and noticed something about an indian tribe, Chickamauga Cherokee, and
the name, KEATS?
The reason I'm asking is because my husband's ORAL history, says he had a
greatgrandad who was an "indian"... This supposed ancestor, they couldn't
find a name for him. This Cates family has VERY LITTLE history, so we tested
my husband's DNA and found him to be completely EUROPEAN. This shows that
there is NO WAY that he could be a descendent of a full blooded indian.
What's interesting, is that his father (a minister) INSISTS that his great
grandad was an indian, and their REAL family name is KEATS, or something of
that matter.
This doesn't make sense. Y-CHROMOSOME doesn't lie. By all appearances, my
husband is FULLY EUROPEAN - through research, the Cates name is really,
BRITISH, and my husband is closely tied in with IRISH. His DNA is R1B.
Does anyone have any comments or ideas about "indian" background being
possible with a Y-Chromosome EUROPEAN marker? My only guess is that there is
possible indian from the mitochondrial gene pool. But there's just no way
scientifically that full blooded male INDIAN is in Y- R1B haplogroup.
Thanks!
Helen Cates
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 15:46:22 -0500> From:
kimberley.lyman(a)whro.org> To:
cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com; cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com>
Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA]
Chief George + CATES> > Chief is Native American Title. Can I please just
read the posting?> > Sincerely,> > Kim Lyman> WHRO Public Television>
5200
Hampton Blvd> Norfolk Va 23508> 757-889-9459> kimberly.lyman(a)whro.org> >
> >
-----Original Message-----> From: cates-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
on behalf
of Bruce Cates> Sent: Tue 1/8/2008 11:32 AM> To:
cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com>
Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA] Chief George + CATES> > Hi Kim,> > It was sent in
error. A different Chief George, not related to native> American research.>
Your Cuz,> > Bruce> > > -----Original Message----->
From:
cates-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:cates-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com]> On
Behalf Of Kimberley Lyman> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:06 AM> To:
cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com; cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CATES-DNA]
Chief George + CATES> Importance: High> > Sister Mary Francis and CATES
members,> > I found this email (below)on our message board and I was
wondering if Mary,> or someone could send me the message from Chief George
regarding KEATS? Is> anyone getting my messages?> > My name is Kim Lyman and
I am a tribal member with the Chickamauga Cherokee,> I am trying to follow
up on several messages I received from people on this> group> regarding
Indian Cates family members.> > I sent a good deal of information to
everyone and I was just wondering if> anyone was able to connect to our
tribe/CATEs members? If I offended anyone> by suggesting membership I am
sorry, it is free and in order for the Chief> to research your family tree
one needs to apply and then he will research> your family name. If it is
found that you have a connection to the tribe> then we move on from there.
The chief says he received several emails.> > could someone please respond?
and those of you who emailed me for> information on your family if you could
just email me again? I will do my> best to get back to you in a timely
manner, I was over whealmed with> requests for information. Im sorry if
anyone feels like I did not convey> info requested. I really want to hear
from each of you please write to me> so we can follow up on our
conversations.> > can anyone please send me the information from this
message from Sister Mary> Francis? the message is below. > > (from sister
mary francis)> > Found Chief George's message about Keats. Sorry if did send
you this.> > I am getting old.> > Sister Mary Francis> > Sincerely,>
> Kim
Lyman> WHRO Public Television> 5200 Hampton Blvd> Norfolk Va 23508>
757-889-9459> kimberly.lyman(a)whro.org> > > > > -----Original
Message----->
From: cates-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com on behalf of Carcates(a)aol.com> Sent:
Thu 12/27/2007 5:36 AM> To: cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com> Subject: [CATES-DNA]
Fwd: One more thing> > Found Chief George's message about Keats. Sorry if
did send you this.> > I am getting old.> > Sister Mary Francis> > >
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