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David
----- Original Message -----
From: "judith cole" <cojocj(a)sbcglobal.net>
To: <cate(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [CATE] Descendant of John Cate Sr.
I am related to Nora Cates b 1871 Knoz, TN who married John Russell
Swafford. Can a Swafford born in 1943 take the DNA test and be linked to the
Cates? Also found in my research that Martha Elizabeth Cates b 1819 in
Orange NC, daughter of Thomas Sykes b 1785 married Thomas Jefferson Cates b
1812 NC. Another cross over of Cates.
--- On Sun, 10/4/09, David <divarty09(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
From: David <divarty09(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CATE] Descendant of John Cate Sr.
To: cate(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 7:42 PM
CATES-DNA-admin(a)rootsweb.com
try contacting this site
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jill F Lackey" <jflanthropologist(a)sbcglobal.net>
To: <cate(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [CATE] Descendant of John Cate Sr.
>I have Cate ancestors in that line. But the line
for me is cross-gender
>and
> I don't know a male Cate. Can you give me the
website for the Yline
> study?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cate-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:cate-bounces@rootsweb.com]On
> Behalf Of pathoscafe(a)aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 12:39 AM
> To: cate(a)rootsweb.com;
CATES-L(a)rootsweb.com;
cates-dna(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CATE] Descendant of John Cate Sr.
>
>
>
> Hi Jerry et al,
>
>
>
> I'm going to have to study the markers again and the
modals, but I think
> there is very little difference among most of the
Cates. John (b. 1753)
> seems to have a unique mutation at marker 388 (=14),
but I wouldn't
> dismiss
> a connection among most of the Cates/Cate members in
the project.? I
> haven't
> spent much time on the project lately (sorry, folks!),
but will welcome
> any
> comments!? It would help if those who have not tested
to 67 markers would
> do
> so (very pleased at how many already have!)--it will
really help with
> comparisons....
>
>
>
> I will ask again (and again and again) that all who
have tested PLEASE
> send
> me their lines back to their earliest KNOWN ancestor.?
Even better if you
> can upload your GEDCOM to your FTDNA results page (and
Ysearch!).? To make
> sense of what we have, we need the lines of
descendency--your oldest known
> Cate/Cates ancestor is helpful, but we need to see
where the mutations
> happen (ie, which generations)...
>
>
>
> I think Str Mary said Bruce is injured?? Wishing him
the best & hope to
> hear
> from you, Bruce!
>
>
>
> Cyndi in Baltimore
>
> Cates/Cate DNA admin
>
> ?
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Bryan <c24m48(a)hotmail.com>
> To: CATE(a)rootsweb.com
> Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2009 1:51 pm
> Subject: Re: [CATE] Descendant of John Cate Sr.
>
>
>
>
>> My DNA sample indicates I am a descendant of John
Cate Sr., b ca 1753,
>> Orange County, NC. My ancestors are John Cate Jr.,
Gideon Cate, C. C.
>> Cate, U.J.
>> Cates, Charlie Columbus Cates, and J. B. Cates.
Our surname changed after
>> U. J. Cate and his new bride Callie Watson moved
from Tennessee to Texas.
>> They
>> married in Tennessee December 1885, their first
child was born In
>> Orangeville, TX in 1886. He was named Cates not
Cate. If you would like
>> more information
>> please write; and if you have information
concerning C. C. Cate after
>> 1865
>> please share that information.
>
> I'm a little late joining this thread, and I'm
probably going to muddy the
> water a little bit. I'm descended from two Cate
families in Jefferson
> County, Tennessee who in turn were out of Orange
County, North Carolina
> (except see below for some contrary possibilities for
John Cate Sr.). In
> particular, I'm descended from John Cate Sr. born 1753
and also from
> William
> P. Cate born about 1760 in Orange County, North
Carolina. I deliberately
> did not list John Cate Sr. born 1753 as having been
born in Orange County,
> North Carolina, even though that's the conventional
wisdom.
>
> I haven't looked at either of my Cate lines in quite
some time, nor at the
> Cate DNA project in quite some time. But the
last time I looked, the John
> Cate Sr. DNA did not appear to be a good match with
the Cate family of
> Orange County, North Carolina. Also, there is a
deed which I believe is
> for
> John Cate Sr. in Washington County, Virginia dated 10
Dec 1788.
>
> I'll try to revisit the Cate DNA project to see what
it says about John
> Cate
> Sr. vs. the Cate family of Orange County. In the
meantime, I wonder if
> you
> might have a better perspective at this time of the
status of the Cate DNA
> testing. Are there are number of descendants of
Orange County Cates who
> have tested, and do they tend to match each
other. Are there are number
> of
> descendants of John Cate Sr. born 1753, and do the
tend to match each
> other.
> And how close do the two groups come t
> o each other?
>
> By the way, my John Cate Sr. line is John Cate Sr.
-> Joshua Cate -> Mary
> Ann (Polly Ann) Cate who was also known as
Pollyanna. Mary Ann Cate was
> my
> third great grandmother and she married my third great
grandfather Peter
> H.
> Bryan about 1846 in Sevier County, Tennessee.
Well, I'm guessing it was
> Sevier County and that it was about 1846 based on when
their children were
> born. They lived along the Jefferson County and
Sevier County line.
> Marriage records for the 1840's are extant for
Jefferson County, and there
> is no Jefferson County marriage record for them.
The Sevier County
> courthouse burned down in 1853, so I assume they were
married in Sevier
> County and that their marriage record was destroyed in
the fire.
>
> Jerry Bryan
>
>
>
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