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Hi, Phyllis!
So glad that you found the Germantown Historical Society's Web Page! I
was only in Philadelphia from Sunday night to Tuesday noon. So, I
decided that I would go on Monday to Germantown. All I had was the
Descendants of Paulus and Gertrude Kusters book. I first found the GHS
and was so excited! The only problem was that they were closed on
Mondays. However, there was a real nice lady (can't remember her name)
that came to the door. When she found out that I was a Custer, she let
me in. I ended up spending about $100 in books and brochures and
maps... I also became a member of the GHS... They have this beautiful
parchment type map thats about 18x20 that shows the original Germantown
with all the 13 families... I've since had it mounted, matted and framed
and it's hanging alongside my family tree, just outside of the Castor
Association's Lending Library - I guess you could say its guarding our
books! <smile>
I wish there was some way you could see my photos from Germantown. I
can't remember everything but I was able to find the school you were
talking about. Actually, it's right next to a mortuary (can't remember
the name). The gates to the cemetery (next to the school) are locked
and you have to get the key from the mortuary. I went inside to get the
key. Well, the only guy who was knowledgable about the cemetery was off
doing a funeral and wouldn't be back until the next day. The guy I
spoke to (a young gentlemen) was very helpful. He gave me a VIP tour of
the mortuary.
In the beginning, the building was a cabinet shop. Actually, they
manufactured these beautiful (very large) grandfather clocks. When the
War of Germantown happened and the Brittish took over and then General
Washington and his men came in and wiped them out, the building was
immediately turned into a hospital and mortuary. The wood was used for
coffins for all of the many soilders that were killed.
There are artifacts (behind the scenes) that are priceless. Actually,
they should all be in the Smithsonian. For instance, the very first
Bible ever printed in America is there! On display!!! I was astonished
that no one knows the place exists.
I was there the Monday before the "Summit" where several living
presidents and Gen Colin Powell was on their campaign to clean up
America. They even went to Germantown - which, by the way, is in pretty
bad shape - as a part of their motorcade. I asked if they were coming
by the mortuary and he said he had tried to convince the Mayor of
Philidelphia and his response was - "they don't have time!"
If they had, as I told the guy, President Clinton and Hillary would most
likely have them just transfer all the artifacts to the Smithsonian.
What bothers me is that the area is now a predominantly black
neighborhood. I would hate for someone to break in and steal some of
the artifacts...even worse, a fire could break out!
This is a MUST for anyone visiting the area.
I'm planning on going back and spend more time... with my new digital
camera and we can record some of this on our Web site... I hate I never
made it to the cemetery, but, maybe you can! I'll try and get the name
of it or maybe we can get it from the GHS...
I stayed at the Comfort Inn down at the edge of the water, at Penn's
Landing. That's where our forefathers landed, so, it kinda made it more
interesting to actually stay close to there. I took the little
historical streetcar tour of the city - similar to the one in Boston and
some other major historical cities. I could have spent a month there!
Can't wait to go back. You can get off at any stop and
sitesee...there's another car coming along every 10 minutes or so.
I'll close for now, but will try to pull out my photos to jog my
memory...
I'm jealous (wish I could join you!) but glad that you're getting to go!
Later,
Ken Custer, President/Librarian
The Castor Association of America
> ----------
> From: Phyllis Ryerse[SMTP:phyllis@webnet.com]
> Reply To: phyllis(a)webnet.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 1998 1:31 PM
> To: CASTOR-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [CASTOR-L] Germantown Hist.Soc. web page!!
>
> Oh, I gotta stop by and see these folks!!
> http://www.libertynet.org/ghs/index.htm
> Check 'em out!
> I called to talk to them....
> Asked if they had a surname index or vertical files I could look at.
> The lady replied......."yes, what name are you looking for?"
> I said......Custer..........
> She said, "oh yes......we have lots on that family!!"
>
> Now I'm really getting excited.
> Gotta go look at the Bucks Co. web page......
>
> Is Ken Custer back home yet??? Ken??
> I'm sure he told me he visited Germantown one time. I need his
> imput!
>
> we'll talk again later!!
> Phyllis in Atlanta
>
>
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>
Oh, I gotta stop by and see these folks!!
http://www.libertynet.org/ghs/index.htm
Check 'em out!
I called to talk to them....
Asked if they had a surname index or vertical files I could look at.
The lady replied......."yes, what name are you looking for?"
I said......Custer..........
She said, "oh yes......we have lots on that family!!"
Now I'm really getting excited.
Gotta go look at the Bucks Co. web page......
Is Ken Custer back home yet??? Ken??
I'm sure he told me he visited Germantown one time. I need his imput!
we'll talk again later!!
Phyllis in Atlanta
Robert G. Moore wrote:
>
> Hi Folks
>
> Note P.Ryerse comments re the Custers in montgomery County
> Does anyone know for sure if there is a Grave Stone for Arnold Cuuster at
> Manatawney Cemetery (Oley Township) and if so the exact directions to the
> Cemetery
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Bob Moore
If anyone has directions and information for any of the sites Phyllis
may want to visit, I would be happy to put that information on a web
page and link it to our home page.
Best wishes to all, Grace
Hi Folks
Note P.Ryerse comments re the Custers in montgomery County
Does anyone know for sure if there is a Grave Stone for Arnold Cuuster at
Manatawney Cemetery (Oley Township) and if so the exact directions to the
Cemetery
Many Thanks
Bob Moore
Well, I've been reading "the book" and catching up on the recent
News-Castors......and have been fascinated by the story of the Germantown
settlement.
And now it appears (tentatively) that I'll be grabbing one of those $59
flights up to Philadelphia around the first part of October and will have a
day or two to go poking around the Germantown (and Chester Co. areas -
since I have another ancestor, John Dutton who also settled there at the
urging of Wm Penn !)
HELP.......I need all the advice and direction you folks can give
me.....what locations will I definitely want to see in Germantown?? I see
in the book that Paulus had 50 acres......do we know where?? And Jan
Strepers had some land there......and there must be a cemetery.....altho
the Quakers frowned on tombstones. .....and a Meeting house?? And I
wonder if the Friend's School where Francis Daniel Pastorius taught is
still standing?
Have any of you folks ever visited the area? What are the "must see"
places?? Let's see....how about the Manatawney Cemetery in Montgomery
Co.?? Arnold Custor was buried there....if I'm reading this right.
And then his son Conrad.......settled near the branches of the Perkiomen
Creek.....and I see here, Skippack and Bucks County mentioned.
Maybe Patricia Ritchie is the gal to talk to here.....I think she's
descended from this line....right Pat??
Well, if this trip works out.....I'll surely need all the advice I can
get from all of you folks. Wonder if there is a web page for Germantown
or any of these other locations. I must look.
OK.....waiting for your help.......
Phyllis in Atlanta!!
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Hi there!
I am looking for any info on any of the grandparents of William Castor b.
1811. I am related through William's sister Elizabeth b. 1796, who married
Joel Hodgson. I know that William's parents were Thomas Caster and Mary
Stanberg, but all my info stops there. I have been in contact with Corinna
Castor, and that is how I got Thomas and Mary, but do not know where to go
from there. Any help would be appreciated, and I will give any help I can.
Sincerely,
Mike Spiro
Betsy, I will forward this on to Mike Godshalk, Ronnie, and the Castor list.
See if anyone comes up with anything. I don't have a son John for Peter and
Ann. Anyone else who has anything to offer, please reply directly to me and I
will get the info back to Betsy and the Abbots.
Thanks, Cris (Ludicrissy(a)aol.com)
<< Subj: John and Mary
Date: 9/5/98 6:43:55 PM Central Daylight Time
From: adkj(a)voicenet.com (adkj)
To: LUDICRISSY(a)AOL.com (Cris)
Cris,
The wife of a Gary Abbott (935 E. 500 N., Lehigh, UT 84043) called this
evening to ask about a "John Custer", s. of Peter and Ann Gottshalk.
The family has his Bible in which there is all sorts of information, but
no mention of the names of his 2 wives. It is thought that he may have
been married to a Mary Umstead.
What might you have up your sleeve?
Mrs. Abbott also mentioned "Pennypacker" - I think she feels there may
be a connection there.
She is not an e-mailer.
Betsy
There is also a HUDSON Family Association just in case you don't already
have a connection with them. They were very helpful with my Hudson line
(on my maternal side).
The address is Hudson Family Association, 232 Loop Drive, Slidell, LA
70458 Phone 504 643 0633 My Hudson line is from Virginia and includes
spellings of Hutson, Houston, Hudson.
Grace Custer Ebneter
Peachtree City, GA
http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Bernard A. Clark <baclark(a)hal-pc.org>
To: CASTOR-L(a)rootsweb.com <CASTOR-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [CASTOR-L] New Castor Member
>Jeff,
>
>Lucky you to find that information in your first issue of the
News-Caster.
>I'm wondering if you didn't receive the March and June issues. When
a
>person joins in mid year we send the back issues for the year. If
you
>didn't receive them I'll send them again.
>
>Bernie--Publications Manager.
>
>Bernie:
Thanks for writing. You are correct about the above issues. I did
receive both of them. In my excitement I forgot about the past issues.
I should have stated my first newsletter after the initial membership!
Jeff
Hi,
I'm still working on our family, here is some of the names I'm working on.
I've also included names on the Hudson Tree I'm working. Which is William's
wife's maiden name. If you can add or want more info just let me know........
Descendants of William Castor
1 William Castor b: March 18, 1811 in Clinton County, Ohio d: May 07, 1873
in Daviess County, MO
.. +Mary Ann Hudson b: 2/19/1816 in Ohio m: 11/5/1835 in Allen County,
Indiana d: 9/10/1882 in MO
........ 2 John William Castor b: 10/23/1838 in New Haven, Indiana d: 12/16/
1911 in Wray, Yuma Cty, CO
............. +Mary Ann Johnston b: October 13, 1838 in Dayton, Ohio m: April
10, 1859 in Daviess Co., MO
................... 3 Perry E Castor b: September 15, 1859 in Missouri
........................ +Louise E. b: November 1867 in Missouri m: Abt.
1889
................... 3 Sarah Castor b: March 29, 1866 in Missouri
................... 3 Nancy A. Castor b: November 03, 1871 in Missouri
................... 3 James W. Castor b: September 25, 1873 in Missouri
........................ +Hattie b: October 1878 in Illinois m: Abt. 1898
................... 3 John Elery Castor b: February 02, 1875 in Missouri d:
1950
................... 3 Armina Castor b: July 25, 1879 in Missouri
................... 3 Charles E. Castor b: December 12, 1883 in Nebraska
........ 2 Cynthia Ann Castor b: Abt. 1844 in New Haven, Allen Cty,
Indiana d: in Daviess Cty., MO
............. +Samuel Hale b: Abt. 1830 in Ohio m: December 12, 1859 in
Daviess County, Missouri
................... 3 Samuel A. Hale b: Abt. 1862 in Missouri
................... 3 John W. Hale b: Abt. 1864 in Missouri
................... 3 Mary M. Hale b: Abt. 1867 in Missouri
................... 3 Andy E. Hale b: Abt. 1870 in Missouri
................... 3 Abram H. Hale b: Abt. 1872 in Missouri
................... 3 Jasper L. Hale b: Abt. 1875 in Missouri
................... 3 Leona E. Hale b: Abt. 1878 in Missouri
........ 2 Matilda M. Castor b: Abt. 1848 in New Haven, Allen Cty,
Indiana d: in Late 1930's
............. +Thomas J. Fleming m: February 17, 1867 in Daviess County, MO
........ 2 Henry Bolton Castor b: 10/16/1850 in Fort Wayne, Indiana d:
10/22/1913 in Rifle, Garfield Cty, CO
............. +Mary Elizabeth Deering b: 6/1860 MO m: 9/26/1875 in Daviess
County, MO d:1940 - 1942 CA
................... 3 William John Castor b: 2/10/1882 in Gentry, Missouri
d: June 12, 1924 in Los Angeles, CA
........................ +Martha See b: September 23, 1885 in Lacey
Twsp/Cumberland?, Thomas Cty, Kansas m: 10/22/1905 in Thomas, Kansas d:
February 26, 1961 in Ontario, San Bernadino, CA
................... 3 Mattie Castor b: July 09, 1885 in Missouri d:
December 1967 in Vancover, Washington
........................ +McMahan
................... 3 Tony Lloyd Castor b: March 01, 1888 in Muscatah,
Kansas d: September 29, 1973 in Buried in Elko Nevada
........................ +Helen Marie Martin b: July 02, 1900 in Denver,
Colorado m: May 22, 1919 in Los Angeles, California d: April 01, 1939
in Buried in Rifle Colorado
................... 3 Raymond Castor b: September 1891 in Kansas d: in
Glenwood Springs, CO
........................ +Martha b: Abt. 1900 in Utah
................... 3 Arthur Castor b: April 1893 in Kansas
................... 3 Wilna Castor b: June 06, 1901 in Kansas d: November
1973 in Modesto, California
........................ +Graham
................... 3 Thelma Gladys Castor b: January 1899 in Kansas
........................ +Hughlette
................... *2nd Husband of Thelma Gladys Castor:
........................ +Charles Hesse b: April 1892 in Wray, CO
........ 2 Elmer Crawford Castor b: February 25, 1855 in Indiana d: February
08, 1935 in Dekalb Cty, Missouri
............. +Emma Caroline Dean b: September 04, 1852 in Dekalb Cty,
Missouri m: January 25, 1883 in Dekalb Cty, Missouri d: July 29, 1930 in
Dekalb Cty, Missouri
................... 3 Lola Alice Castor b: September 26, 1884 in
Missouri d: March 25, 1885 in Missouri
................... 3 LeRoy (Roy) A. Castor b: August 28, 1887 in Weatherby,
Dekalb Cty, Missouri d: 4/21/1968
........................ +Viola Grace
................... 3 Orval Pittman Castor b: October 25, 1891 in Weatherby,
Missouri d: September 19, 1969 in Pontiac, Michigan
........................ +Lola Alice Heimbaugh b: July 16, 1894 in Weatherby,
Missouri m: July 14, 1912 in Weatherby, Missouri
................... 3 Cleo Daniel Castor b: March 16, 1896 in Dekalb Cty,
Missouri d: October 03, 1960 in MO
........................ +Gladys Irene Poage b: 1902 m: July 27, 1920
Some other names I'm working on are for the Hudson Family.
Descendants of Jeremiah Hudson
1 Jeremiah Hudson b: in Delaware
.. +Mary b: Abt. 1790 in Ireland
........ 2 Isabel Hudson
........ 2 James Hudson
........ 2 John Hudson b: Abt. 1812 in Ohio
........ 2 Mary Ann Hudson b: February 19, 1816 in Ohio d: September 10,
1882 in Missouri
............. +William Castor b: March 18, 1811 in Clinton County, Ohio m:
November 05, 1835 in Allen County, Indiana d: May 07, 1873 in Daviess
County, Missouri
................... 3 John William Castor b: October 23, 1838 in New Haven,
Indiana d: December 16, 1911 in Wray, Yuma Cty, Colorado
........................ +Mary Ann Johnston b: October 13, 1838 in Dayton,
Ohio m: April 10, 1859 in Daviess Co., MO
................... 3 Cynthia Ann Castor b: Abt. 1844 in New Haven, Allen
Cty, Indiana d: in Daviess Cty., MO
........................ +Samuel Hale b: Abt. 1830 in Ohio m: December 12,
1859 in Daviess County, Missouri
................... 3 Matilda M. Castor b: Abt. 1848 in New Haven, Allen
Cty, Indiana d: in Late 1930's
........................ +Thomas J. Fleming m: February 17, 1867 in Daviess
County, MO
................... 3 Henry Bolton Castor b: October 16, 1850 in Fort Wayne,
Indiana d: October 22, 1913 in Rifle, Garfield Cty, Colorado
........................ +Mary Elizabeth Deering b: June 1860 in Missouri m:
September 26, 1875 in Daviess County, Missouri d: Bet. 1940 - 1942 in
LA, California
................... 3 Elmer Crawford Castor b: February 25, 1855 in Indiana
d: February 08, 1935 in Dekalb Cty, Missouri
........................ +Emma Caroline Dean b: September 04, 1852 in Dekalb
Cty, Missouri m: January 25, 1883 in Dekalb Cty, Missouri d: July 29,
1930 in Dekalb Cty, Missouri
........ 2 Rebecca Hudson b: Abt. 1824 in Ohio
............. +Jacob Xannols? b: Abt. 1822 in New Jersey *Census was so bad
couldn't make out name*
........ 2 Matilda Hudson b: Abt. 1825 in Ohio
............. +Henry Bolton b: Abt. 1822 in Pennsylvania
................... 3 Mary Bolton b: Abt. 1852 in Indiana
................... 3 Rebecca Bolton b: Abt. 1856 in Indiana
Jeff,
Lucky you to find that information in your first issue of the News-Caster.
I'm wondering if you didn't receive the March and June issues. When a
person joins in mid year we send the back issues for the year. If you
didn't receive them I'll send them again.
Bernie--Publications Manager.
THANKS, Jeff, for sharing this beautiful story with the rest of the
"family"!!! And, WELCOME aboard! There's plenty more where that came
from! Such as, our deep-rooted history into Germany and Germantown, PA,
... can't wait to meet you in person!
Cuz'n Ken Custer, President
The Castor Association of America
> ----------
> From: Jeff Baker[SMTP:jbaker@greenapple.com]
> Reply To: CASTOR-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 5:03 PM
> To: CASTOR-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [CASTOR-L] New Castor Member
>
> Dear Members:
>
>
> Had to write to say that I just joined the Castor Assoc in July. I
> received my first newsletter today and low & Behold, there was my
> Gr -Gr Grandmother that I have been searching for, for over two
> years!! Someone submitted the article on Benjamin Castor. His 9th
> child was Nancy Castor who married a Joseph Springer, John Dillon, and
> Fleming Cunningham. I have put quieries out on the net, been to
> Washington County, PA, and have written letters but have always came
> up empty!
>
> My Gr grandmother always told me her mother was Nancy Castor and her
> father was Fleming Cunningham. I could never find anything on either
> of these people. I eventually found her marriage certificate that
> stated her name was MARY DILLON not Cunningham. Now I'm thinking is
> she illigitamate, adopted, etc. You can't believe how excited I was to
> see Nancy's name with her 1st & 2nd husband along with Flem. Not only
> her husbands, but the rest of her family!! The names that were in her
> bible all make sense now, and I can see where the relationship is.
>
> If anyone has anything that would help in my research, it would
> certainly be appreciated. Also wanted to say thanks to Ken Custer and
> Grace Ebneter who helped me find this board so I could show my
> appreciation.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeff Baker
>
Dear Members:
Had to write to say that I just joined the Castor Assoc in July. I
received my first newsletter today and low & Behold, there was my
Gr -Gr Grandmother that I have been searching for, for over two
years!! Someone submitted the article on Benjamin Castor. His 9th
child was Nancy Castor who married a Joseph Springer, John Dillon, and
Fleming Cunningham. I have put quieries out on the net, been to
Washington County, PA, and have written letters but have always came
up empty!
My Gr grandmother always told me her mother was Nancy Castor and her
father was Fleming Cunningham. I could never find anything on either
of these people. I eventually found her marriage certificate that
stated her name was MARY DILLON not Cunningham. Now I'm thinking is
she illigitamate, adopted, etc. You can't believe how excited I was to
see Nancy's name with her 1st & 2nd husband along with Flem. Not only
her husbands, but the rest of her family!! The names that were in her
bible all make sense now, and I can see where the relationship is.
If anyone has anything that would help in my research, it would
certainly be appreciated. Also wanted to say thanks to Ken Custer and
Grace Ebneter who helped me find this board so I could show my
appreciation.
Sincerely,
Jeff Baker
Just to set the record straight. General George Armstrong Custer was
born 5 Dec 1839 at the Custer homestead in New Rumley, Ohio.
Grace Custer Ebneter
Peachtree City, GA
http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index.html
Dear Nora,
Have you tried following this Dewees family back through the census
records to 1850?
All best wishes, Grace
Grace Custer Ebneter
Peachtree City, GA
http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index.html
Forwarding this primarily for possible connections to DeWees researchers or if
anyone has anything to help Nora. Thanks, Cris
<< Subj: DeWees family
Date: 9/7/98 8:39:19 PM Central Daylight Time
From: NLS1116
To: dcuster(a)jps.net, Ludicrissy
Hi, I got your names and e-mail addresses from Mike Gottshalk. I am
descended from a Dewees, but I have very scanty information on this line. I
see that a Custer married a Deweese in 1704 in Montgomery County, PA, so I am
hoping that by going backwards, I can connect this Dewees to my Dewees. Here
is what little I have:
Albanus Dewees, d. 10 jul 1900 +Mary E., d. 12 Feb 1902
Charles K. +Katherine Degrue
James Dewees, b. abt 1882, Norristown, PA
Mary S.
Frank F.
Your Custer information I am taking this from:
Children of Paulus Custer and Gertrude Streypers include:
Margaret Custer, born 1688 in Kaldenkirchen, Germany; died in
Skippack, Montgomery County, PA; married Cornelius DEWEESE abt 1704 in
Germantown, Montgomery, PA
I realize this is not much to go on, but if you have any Dewees info that
would help me in this search, I would greatly appreciate it! Nora
Great idea to put it on a web page. I have plenty of MBs to make
another web page. Thanks Patricia and Jo.
Love, Grace
--
Grace Custer Ebneter
Peachtree City, GA
http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index.html
Dear Jo,
Would really like to have all the information I can gather so that when
someone new comes on I can check to see if I have anything to match
their query. I think it would be great to post the Hermanus file for
all to share. Thank you and Jack for all your hard work.
Love to you both, Grace
--
Grace Custer Ebneter
Peachtree City, GA
http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index.html
When Jack Kester was president of the Association ('92-'94) he
wrote a program of the information the Association had concerning
the descendants of Hermanus. I believe there is a copy in the
Castor Library.
I just checked and we still have the file on our hard drive and
it is quite large, six pages. If anyone is interested, I could
send a gedcom copy via e-mail.
This doesn't contain any information concerning Hermanus's mother
or wife, only names of descendants. If enough of you would be
interested, I could put it here on this list.
Jo Kester
kester(a)saber.udayton.edu