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This came in on my MadduxCousins side...Thought it might be of
interest here also. Patricia
The following article was published in the Ancestry Daily News,
16 November
1998 and has special interest to anyone interested in the history
of 1900 -
thus I thought many of you might be interested in reading it -
LeeAnn Maddux-
Parkinson
AMERICA 1900: PBS SPECIAL & COMPANION WEBSITE
<<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>>
As we near the end of the twentieth century, this PBS special
takes a look
at the year 1900 and the events that took place as the twentieth
century
began. The three-hour special, which airs on Wednesday night,
will examine
events and attitudes of the day, show the parallels and
contradictions with
current times, and give us an insight into the lives of our
forebears.
The companion Web site is now online at:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/amex/1900/index.html
The site features several timelines, a detailed look at the
program, a look
at people and events of the time, a teacher's guide, and a
"special
feature." This feature, the "America 1900 Family Tree Builder,"
will be of
particular interest to genealogists. The free download is
available at:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/amex/1900/sfeature/index.html
Check your local listings for the showing time.
"If sounds too good to be true----" This does sound interesting,but also
makes me alittle leary-as many names are "baught & sold" from various
venders. Also one must keep in mind to use such as "tools of the trade"
rather than "gosple". I do admit that every form of documentation could
have its flaws.
Cheryl
Researching Keister,Deuel/Devol & Switzer
Ordered the CDs yesterday from the Mormon Church. Think 8 CDs for
nineteen dollars is quite reasonable as are all the wonderful services
provided to family researchers by the Church (I am not a member). What
would be most valuable is the source information which you can check
yourself just as you would for any family research you may find done by
others. Will let the list know how the CDs look when I receive them.
Since some single copies of vital records cost nearly as much as all the
CDs, I thought they would be well worth the price as they may lead to
vital records needed for further documentation.
All best wishes, Grace
Grace Custer Ebneter
Peachtree City, GA
http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index.html
Dear Members,
Updated the Castor page today. Check the link on the information sent
by Marilyn Posten about our Castor Reunion in 2000. Please send any
corrections or further information for anything on our page to me.
Best wishes to all, Grace
Grace Custer Ebneter
Peachtree City, GA
http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index.html
Dear Cris,
Thank you so much for posting all this helpful information. I will
order the CD collection for certain. I am so glad you gave such a good
explanation of all the help available through the Family History Library
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormon). The
volunteers who work there are not always members of the church and
everyone is treated equally. No one tries to convert people or asks you
for money except to cover the cost of mailing the microfilm or whatever
you order. Chester Custer's 32 volumes of Custer families is there and
you can order the microfilm with your family on it. Chester researched
Custers for over 40 years. He is a wonderful Custer cousin and a
retired Methodist minister.
Love, Grace
Grace Custer Ebneter
Peachtree City, GA
http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index.html
Hi All
I am new to this list and I hope someone can help me find the
parents and siblings of Daniel L. CASTER b. 2/8/1871 in Alston, AR died
3/3/1951 in Franklin Co. AR buried in Hight Cemetery. he married my g
great aunt Naomi WADE on 7/8/1888 in Franklin Co. AR she was b.
11/18/1871 AL d. 10/27/1936 AR buried in Hight Cemetery
Childern of Daniel & Naomi are
i Eva Jane b. 5/4/1889 AR d. 6/19/1971 m. Wyeth Hoyle
ii Eliza Gertrude b. 10/13/1891 AR d. 11/10/1946 m. Clayton McCabe
iii Ida Ethel b. 8/21/1894 AR d. 4/19/1948 m Unknown Weatherl
iv Lillie Mae b. 3/4/1899 AR d. 11/21/1986 m. Charkes G. Smither
v Jimmie Alene b. 10/5/1906 TX d. 1/11/1986 m. William Oswald Carty
vi Laura Opal b. 6/2/1909 AR d. 9/30/1909 AR
vii Wynema Elzora b. 4/18/1913 AR d. 10/ 27 1929
If any one has any info. on Daniel or any of the children please
email at homegm(a)gotnet.net
Thanks and good luck
Linda (Wade) White
Email - homegm(a)gotnet.net / ICQ# 5543150
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Researching: Adams, Walls, Cannon, Sumner, Snow, Mize, Wade, Fisher,
Godwin, Griffith / Griffin, White, Dellameter, Allaly, Woolsey, Graf,
Caster - There is over 5450 individuals in our family tree
**********************************************************
My genealogy home pages: http://members.gotnet.net/richlin1/default.htm
My home page: http://www.geocities.com/heartland/hills/1798/index.html
The Wades home page: http://mbr-gene.neotown.com/wade/
**********************************************************
Hello, all,
I received this as a forward, I am not recommending it nor have I seen it or
checked it out, BUT the price is sure right. Scroll to the bottom if you get
impatient. Also sorry for duplicates, those of you on multiple lists or who
have seen it before. Cris
Are you researching ancestors in the United States or Canada? And
are you looking for records before the year 1888? Finally, do you
use a Windows 95, Windows 98 or Windows NT computer? If you
answered "Yes" to all three of these questions, you need to read
about a new CD-ROM disk set just released.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commonly referred
to as "the Mormons," has now started shipping their new "Vital
Records Index - North America" CD-ROM disk. This may well be the
most important new CD-ROM of 1998 for anyone searching for
ancestors within North America. The label on the disk set says,
"These CDs contain information taken from a partial collection of
birth, christening and marriage records of the United States and
Canada. These records cover approximately 257 years, from 1631 to
1888, containing about 4 million names."
For anyone new to genealogy, I should point out that the records
of the Mormon Church are not limited to information about Mormons.
They gather information from all the old public records they can
find, regardless of the religious preferences of the people
listed. You will find Protestants, Catholics, Jews and others all
listed together, and you will rarely find any mention of the
religion of the individuals mentioned.
I had a chance to use the new CD-ROM set this week. I'm impressed.
The following description of the data is extracted from the user's
manual included on the CD-ROM disks:
The Vital Records Index-North America on compact disc (CD)
contains information taken from birth, christening and
marriage records from selected states and provinces of the
United States and Canada. Some names found in the Vital
Records Index may also be found on the International
Genealogical Index (IGI).
This index includes:
1. Records that cover approximately from 1620 to 1888.
2. Approximately 5 million people on seven compact discs (six
marriage CDs and one birth/christening CD).
3. The name of the individual, the parents' names when
available, the date and place where the birth, christening, or
marriage was registered, and the name of the individual's
spouse.
4. Reference information that allows you to locate the
original record on a microfilm. This index is not complete.
Your ancestor may not appear here even though you know he or
she lived in a time and place covered by the index. The Vital
Records Index will continue to be updated, adding millions of
new names with each update.
Names in this index have been standardized, which means that
variant name spellings are listed under a common name. For
example, Smyth, Smithe, Smeith, would all be indexed under the
name Smith. This allows you to search a name without knowing
the exact spelling. However, you are still able to search
under the exact spelling of an individual's name if you wish.
These records are extracted records, which means that someone
copied selected pieces of information from the original
record. However, not all of the genealogically important
information was extracted. Therefore, you should use the
reference information provided in this index to locate the
original record on microfilm and evaluate the original record
yourself.
This is not a complete index. Your ancestor may not appear
here even though you know he or she lived in a time and place
covered by the index. The Vital Records Index for North
America will continue to be updated, adding millions of new
names with each release.
The following list provides a summary of the number of
counties or places included within this index where records
were extracted from within Canada and the United States.
Canada
Province # of Birth/Christening # of Marriage
Collections Collections Extracted
Manitoba 10 8
New Brunswick 3 3
Nova Scotia 2 5
Ontario 2 21
United States
State # of Counties with # of Counties
Birth/Christening Marriage records
Records
Alabama 6 51
Arkansas 3 37
California 0 2
Connecticut 5 5
District of Columbia 2 2
Florida 0 2
Georgia 32 135
Hawaii 1 1
Idaho 2 12
Illinois 37 46
Indiana 7 5
Iowa 41 61
Kansas 2 9
Kentucky 45 47
Louisiana 2 3
Maine 36 45
Maryland 33 26
Massachusettes 19 18
Michigan 12 11
Minnesota 9 5
Mississippi 4 71
Missouri 6 11
Montana 2 1
Nebraska 6 8
New Hampshire 1 1
New Jersey 37 60
New Mexico 18 15
New York 26 25
North Dakota 4 2
Ohio 23 18
Oklahoma 3 7
Oregon 0 6
Pennsylvania 47 35
Rhode Island 5 5
South Carolina 1 0
Tennessee 44 86
Texas 59 135
Washington 0 4
West Virginia 2 3
Wisconsin 8 4
Wyoming 0 8
Two apparent errors in the above list sort of "jumped out" at me.
First, the obvious spelling error on "Massachusettes" seems like a
simple typo error. However, I am confused by the statement that
the records for Maine include 36 counties with birth/christening
records and 45 counties with marriage records. That's a neat trick
for a state that has only 16 counties! I don't have any
explanation for that. However, when searching the CD-ROM for
records from Maine, I did see entries from most of the 16
counties.
Again, the CD-ROM does not cover all counties in all states and
provinces. In fact, the records for Canada seem rather slim.
Anyone researching French-Canadian ancestors will quickly note
that there are no records from Quebec province on this set of
disks. The coverage of the states that were settled first in the
eastern United States seems good, but as you move westward the
coverage becomes slimmer.
When picking up the set for the first time, I was surprised to
find that it is so big. The set fills 8 CD-ROM disks. One disk
contains the "viewer" software; the other 7 disks all contain
data. The label on the CD-ROM set cautions that the viewer
software operates only on Windows 95 or Windows NT. I suspect it
will operate on Windows 98 as well. There is no version for the
Macintosh nor for Windows 3.1. The CD-ROM label also states that 8
megabytes of RAM memory is the minimum required to operate the
software but that 16 megabytes or more is strongly recommended. I
would expect that Windows NT would require still more memory. The
rest of the requirements seem quite modest: a CD-ROM drive, a VGA
monitor and video card supporting at least 256 colors, and at
least 25 megabytes of disk space available. Most people will want
a printer as well; the software will operate with any Windows-
compatible printer. I tested the "Vital Records Index - North
America" CD-ROMs on a Windows 95 system that had 16 megabytes of
memory installed.
Installing the software was a snap. It installs in the same manner
as most other Windows programs. There is no printed manual
included with the CD-ROMs; the manual is contained on the Viewer
software disk. The user can read the manual on the screen or even
print the entire thing on the local printer. I already have too
much paper floating around, so I elected to not print it out. I
didn't have much need to use the manual as the software seems easy
to use. The few times that I did look at the manual on my screen,
I was able to quickly find the information I was looking for.
I quickly fired up the program and started searching for data. I
entered my own surname and found hundreds of entries. I then
narrowed the search to show only those records from the State of
Maine. Again, the system displayed hundreds of records. I then
narrowed the search further, first by year, then by first name.
You can quickly narrow down the search to the specific areas of
interest.
You do end up "shuffling" the disks quite often in this set of
multiple CD-ROM disk. You always start with data disk #1 inserted
in the CD-ROM drive; apparently that disk contains the index. But,
once you find a person in the index, continuing the search results
in a message asking you to remove the current CD-ROM disk and to
insert a different one.
Keep in mind that this huge collection of records is an index. It
does not have all the details of each event. Instead, it tells you
where to find the details. For instance, here is the entry for my
great-great-grandparents' marriage from the CD-ROM:
EASTMAN, Washington H.
Marriage Wife: Cynthia TYLER
Marriage Date: 29 Mar 1831
Recorded in: Civil Records for Bangor, Penobscot, Maine
Source: FHL Number 10584 Dates: 1864-1864
This entry from the CD-ROM says that a marriage record for two
individuals on the given date does exist in the Civil Records for
Bangor, Penobscot County, Maine. I can view a copy on the Family
History Library's microfilm number 10584. The user's manual
describes it this way:
Source information is generally useful for locating the
original record or a copy of the original record. The film
numbers (FHL numbers) used in the source information apply
only to the Family History Library and its branch libraries.
Source information also includes information about the county,
state or province the record was recorded in, the film the
record is found in, the years covered within the film and
occasionally, useful notes recorded by the original scribe
Skipping over a few paragraphs of details, the user's manual
continues:
In most cases it is useful to see the original record from
which the information found in the index was taken. The
original record often contains additional information not
found in the detail record. Sometimes, the person who was
copying the information from the original record made
mistakes.
To find the original record, look in the detail pane of the
record of the individual you are looking for. The Source
field shows the Family History Library call number of the
film, fiche, or book which contains a copy of the original
record. The detail pane also shows the place where the record
was originally recorded and the time span of the records in
the film.
Copies of most of the microfilms can be ordered for a small
fee from one of more than 3,000 Family History Centers. Note:
If you are using the Family History Resource File Viewer
created by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,
click on the button with a picture of a temple, located on the
lower screen. It provides the names and locations of hundreds
of Family History Centers throughout the world.
I already know that I can easily order a 3-week rental of that
microfilm by visiting a local Family History Center near me. A
three-week rental costs about $4.00.
You can search all the records in the Vital Records Index for
birth and christening records as well as for marriage records of
an individual person. Birth and christening records show a
person's parents, birth date, and birthplace, and often give other
information. Marriage records show the names of a bride and groom
as well as when and where the marriage took place. Four sections
of the Search screen allow you to provide information: the Search
section, the Individual section, the Events (optional) section,
and the Relatives (optional) section. Only the individual name
information is required to do a search.
For any given information, you may choose to search
birth/christening records or marriage records. If you select
Birth/Christening, the information pertaining to birth and
christening records will be searched. If you select Marriage, the
information pertaining to marriage records will be searched.
When conducting a search for an individual, you must type either
the given name(s) or the last name(s) of a person to do a search.
First given names and surnames of individuals have been
standardized to help find most variations of last name spellings.
For example, the last name Smyth will be listed with Smith,
Smithe, Smethe, etc. You can further limit a search by providing
the date and place of an event. In fact, you can further limit the
search by using the optional Relatives section. You can also
specify the names of the father and mother for birth/christening
records and the name of the spouse for marriage records. All of
this detail-level searching is optional. If you don't specify the
details, then you see all the records for the names that you
entered.
While I displayed only one record for my great-great-grandfather
above, keep in mind that there are many options for records. You
can select one record or a group of records. The group can be all
the records of a certain name, all the records of certain years,
all the records of a certain place, or any combination of the
above. You can also add or delete individual records from a group.
Individual records or groups of records can be printed on any
Windows-compatible printer. In addition, records or groups of
records, up to 100 at a time, can be can be saved as a GEDCOM
(GEnealogical Data COMmunication) file. This allows you to export
records from the index to your favorite genealogy program,
assuming that it can read GEDCOM files (most programs do). Records
from the Vital Records Index can be saved as an RTF (Rich Text
Format for word processing) file. This allows you to export
records from the index to a word processing package. I was able to
save a group of all the Eastman records from Penobscot County,
Maine and then import that data into Microsoft Word.
I did not find any direct method of saving the data to a
spreadsheet, something that I like to do. However, several of the
better genealogy programs have the capability to import a GEDCOM
file and then to create a spreadsheet file. For example, I was
able to create a GEDCOM file from data on the CD-ROM, import it
into The Master Genealogist, and then use that program to create a
spreadsheet from the data.
Unlike some other genealogy CD-ROM disks that I have described in
recent weeks, the Vital Records Index-North America viewer
software does support the Windows Clipboard in the same manner as
most other Windows programs. I was able to copy data from the CD-
ROM and then paste it into this newsletter using the normal cut-
and-paste commands.
The viewer software CD-ROM has a couple of "extra goodies" not
mentioned in the manual: it has information about why the Mormons
are so interested in genealogy. It also contains a listing of all
the local LDS Family History Centers in the United States, Canada,
the British Isles, Scandinavia, Europe, Australia and New Zealand.
This particular set of CD-ROM disks is probably the biggest
release of North American GENEALOGY records in electronic format
of the year. So how much does it cost? You won't believe this: the
price is $19.00 U.S. funds. That's not much money for seven data
CD-ROM disks and another disk with the software and users' manual!
I'll bet that Santa Claus delivers a lot of these disks this year.
If you would like to purchase a copy of the "Vital Records Index -
North America," call 800-537-5971 from the U.S. or Canada. Callers
outside North America can call 1-801-240-1126. FAX orders may be
set to 801-240-3685. You can specify a credit card number on any
of these methods. Finally, you can send an order and a check by
old-fashioned mail if you address the envelope to:
Church Distribution Center
1999 West 1700 South
Salt Lake City, Utah 84104-4233
U.S.A.
When ordering, make sure that you specify "Item #50029, North
American Vital Records Index (1620-1888)."
Did you send for Daniel's death certificate or check the Social
Security records? It is possible to receive a photostatic copy of a
Social Security application which has the names of parents entered by
the applicant as I have my Dad's and my Grandfathers' applications. You
could also begin checking the census records beginning with 1920 and
working your way back as far as possible. Hope this helps a bit.
All best wishes,
Grace
Grace Custer Ebneter
Peachtree City, GA
http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index.html
Message received
Jack Castor, San Rafael, CA.,
Dick & Jan Overgard wrote:
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> Hello, anyone out there?
>
> OK - I'll try one more time. I'm suscribed to CASTOR-L but did not get
> back the attached message, so I'm assuming it got lost? I'm forwarding
> it again in hopes that SOMEONE is there.
>
> Hello? Hello?
>
> I'm not complaining, just frustrated!
> --
> :-)
> Dick & Jan Overgard
> overgard(a)erols.com
> (540)347-2954
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> From: Dick & Jan Overgard <overgard(a)erols.com>
> Reply-To: overgard(a)erols.com
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-DH397 (Win95; I)
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> Subject: The Castor Association of America
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>
> Hi -
>
> I'm a new member so please forgive if I appear to be a novice at this
> genealogy business - which I am. Also, please forgive if I appear to
> not understand how the Association works - which I don't.
>
> When I joined the association I received the promised copies of 3 issues
> of "The News-Caster" along with a copy of the Association brochure which
> said under the heading "Benefits": "New members will be advised of any
> information of their direct ancestral lines that are contained in the
> Association files." I don't know the exact date that I joined but it
> was several months ago (I was away on vacation the whole month of
> October and I joined long enough before I left to have received the
> brochure, etc., via snail mail. Upon my return and having nothing
> further in the snail mail, I was pondering what to do next, when a kind
> sole gave me the email address for this group. Whereupon I sent a
> message asking if anyone could send me additional information regarding
> my direct ancestral lines and providig, in turn, the existing line down
> to myself. There has been no response, thus far, to this specific
> request. So, I guess my question is: How does one go about getting the
> promised direct ancestral lines that are contained in the Association
> files? Are they sent automatically to new members and I just have not
> been patient enough? Or does one ask for them via snail mail? It would
> appear that this avenue (email) is not the way.
>
> Another thought from a newby - a suggestion, really. I did not know
> that the Association had a WEB site until someone who is not a member
> kindly informed me that it existed and even looked the address up for
> me. I would suggest that this ought not to be. I would suggest that
> the email address be published PROMINENTLY in The News-caster, along
> with the email addresses of all the officers, editor, etc.. Perhaps you
> do this on an annual basis or something, but it would be a good thing
> and would help promote the Association if at least the WEB site address
> were published in EVERY issue. I initially learned of the Association
> when someone who is a member gave me a copy of one of his News-caster's
> and said I miht find it interesting reading. I did! It happened to
> contain the link for my CUSTARD lineage to William CUSTARD.
>
> Well, I'm already too verbose. Please, can anyone tell me how to obtain
> the information on my direct line from the Association files?
>
> Warm regards
>
> Your cousin (or whatever)
>
> Dick
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> ==== CASTOR Mailing List ====
> Be sure to visit the Castor Association of America Web Site at:
> http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index-9.html
We didn't have a web page until after the reunion in Salt Lake City this
year near the end of June 1998 when I volunteered to make a "simple" web
page. Patricia Caster then had the wonderful idea for the CASTOR list.
I am so glad that you have found this page. I have to go somewhere
today, but if you will send me an idea of what you know about your
lineage I will look in the indexes later to check what I information I
have here. Jean White, Editor and Ken Custer, President have the Castor
files and are responsible for sending you your lineage if you turned in
your ancestor sheet and it matches what they have. I have to run, but
hope some of the others will get back with you and explain further.
Sincerely, Grace
--
Grace Custer Ebneter
Peachtree City, GA
http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index.html
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Hello, anyone out there?
OK - I'll try one more time. I'm suscribed to CASTOR-L but did not get
back the attached message, so I'm assuming it got lost? I'm forwarding
it again in hopes that SOMEONE is there.
Hello? Hello?
I'm not complaining, just frustrated!
--
:-)
Dick & Jan Overgard
overgard(a)erols.com
(540)347-2954
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Reply-To: overgard(a)erols.com
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To: CASTOR-L(a)rootweb.com
Subject: The Castor Association of America
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Hi -
I'm a new member so please forgive if I appear to be a novice at this
genealogy business - which I am. Also, please forgive if I appear to
not understand how the Association works - which I don't.
When I joined the association I received the promised copies of 3 issues
of "The News-Caster" along with a copy of the Association brochure which
said under the heading "Benefits": "New members will be advised of any
information of their direct ancestral lines that are contained in the
Association files." I don't know the exact date that I joined but it
was several months ago (I was away on vacation the whole month of
October and I joined long enough before I left to have received the
brochure, etc., via snail mail. Upon my return and having nothing
further in the snail mail, I was pondering what to do next, when a kind
sole gave me the email address for this group. Whereupon I sent a
message asking if anyone could send me additional information regarding
my direct ancestral lines and providig, in turn, the existing line down
to myself. There has been no response, thus far, to this specific
request. So, I guess my question is: How does one go about getting the
promised direct ancestral lines that are contained in the Association
files? Are they sent automatically to new members and I just have not
been patient enough? Or does one ask for them via snail mail? It would
appear that this avenue (email) is not the way.
Another thought from a newby - a suggestion, really. I did not know
that the Association had a WEB site until someone who is not a member
kindly informed me that it existed and even looked the address up for
me. I would suggest that this ought not to be. I would suggest that
the email address be published PROMINENTLY in The News-caster, along
with the email addresses of all the officers, editor, etc.. Perhaps you
do this on an annual basis or something, but it would be a good thing
and would help promote the Association if at least the WEB site address
were published in EVERY issue. I initially learned of the Association
when someone who is a member gave me a copy of one of his News-caster's
and said I miht find it interesting reading. I did! It happened to
contain the link for my CUSTARD lineage to William CUSTARD.
Well, I'm already too verbose. Please, can anyone tell me how to obtain
the information on my direct line from the Association files?
Warm regards
Your cousin (or whatever)
Dick
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Do you have Donald M. Custer's research dealing with the Isaac and Maria
FELTER CUSTER family?
Let me know and I will try to help you if you could use this
information.
All best wishes, Grace
--
Grace Custer Ebneter
Peachtree City, GA
http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index.html
Tom has me thinking about the way Quakers dated things before 1752 and
the adoption of the Gregorian or present day calendar. In the old
Julian calendar the first month was March whereas in the Gregorian the
first month is January.
Greenwood notes in "The Researcher's Guide to American Genealogy"
that the Dutch in New Netherland never used the Julian Calendar. The
Dutch had accepted the Gregorian Calendar prior to their American
colonization. He goes on to say that the Quakers did not accept the
ecclesiastical calendar but began their year on January 1 even though
they otherwise accepted the dates of the Julian Calendar. He also notes
that in a further chapter the examples are an "exception" to the
rule??? Now in these examples the Julian calendar is used. For
instance, "Hussa born the 1st day of the Sixth month Called August 1747"
My understanding then would be that the Gwynedd Birth Records are
using the Gregorian Calendar and the tenth month would be October.
Could anyone help me with this?
All best wishes, Grace
Grace Custer Ebneter
Peachtree City, GA
http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index.html
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> From: Agnes Chambers <jchambers(a)nwonline.net>
> To: CASTOR-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [CASTOR-L] Custer line
> Date: Friday, August 07, 1998 4:05 PM
>
> My Custer ancestor is Margaret Custer, daughter of Isaac Custer & Maria
> Felter. She had a twin brother Lafayette. He & Margaret were born in
> Lafayette, Indiana 14 Feb 1849. Margaret also had brothers James,
> Milton, Arnold, and Isaac and sisters Malinda, Eliza, Susanna, and
> Rachal. If anyone has information on any of these people, I would
> appreciate your sharing it with me. Thanks AChambers
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman <73777.25(a)compuserve.com>
To: Maggie_Ohio-L(a)rootsweb.com <Maggie_Ohio-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 1:02 AM
Subject: Fw: Wagon Roads (1)
>Subject: Re: [OHIO] Wagon Roads to Ohio 1787-1820
> From: glenys(a)sonic.net
> To: Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman 73777,25
> Date: 4-Nov-98 14:44
>
>OK, seems like lots of you would like to see more, can't believe the
>response in just a few minutes! Because there are several roads
>covered, I will start with the first page and just work through them,
>probably a day per road. First a brief overview:
>
>"The role of the Ohio Company, a private fur trading company which had
>its roots in Virginia, was in maintaining British control of the Forks
>of the Ohio River. These goals were accomplished in 1763 when France
>relinquished its claims to the great Mississippi and Ohio Valleys.
>After the French-Indian War these areas belonged solely to the British
>and the Mississippi River became the undisputed boundary between British
>and Spanish Territory. Britain surprised its American colonies with the
>Proclamation Line of 1763 which took away from the colonies the right to
>grant lands in the western areas; in fact, the King's proclamation
>prohibited colonials from crossing the line at all. A revolution took
>care of that antagonism, and soon after the creation of an American
>government, the expansion into the western regions became a matter of
>national policy.
>
>By their act of ratifying the Constitution of the United States, some of
>the thirteen states were not only agreeing to the creation of a new
>Federal Government, they were giving up their claims to their western
>lands. The states of Virginia, Massachusetts and Connecticut ceded
>their western lands to the US government and in 1787 a new "Territory
>Northwest of the Ohio River" was established by the Continental
>Congress. ... Why were the thirteen states ready to give up these lands
>so easily? ... They gave them up for a very simple reason - as a
>landowner, the Federal Government would have a source of revenue by
>selling off land - and the states could stop subsidizing this new
>federal monster they had created.
>
>"An an orderly plan for the sale of land emerged, a plan for the
>creation of new territories and states was developed by Congress. Since
>the primary source of revenue ... would be from the sale of land,
>migrations West of the Appalachian Mountains became a matter of national
>policy.
>
>"Any new territories created were to have a Governor appointed, and
>provisions were made for a militia to maintain order and protect
>immigrants moving into the new lands. Congress determined that a
>territory could petition to become a state if there were at least 20,000
>people living there. As the first territory established in 1787, the
>Territory Northwest of the Ohio River became a proving ground for
>various methods of dividing land ... meanwhile some private land
>speculators got into the act.
>
>More coming ....
>--
>>>Glenys Rasmussen<<
>http://www.sonic.net/~glenys/
>>>"My home lies wide a thousand miles,
>In the Never-Never Land." (Henry Lawson)<<
>
>______________________________
>
Here's another part
Jo
-----Original Message-----
From: Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman <73777.25(a)compuserve.com>
To: Maggie_Ohio-L(a)rootsweb.com <Maggie_Ohio-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 1:02 AM
Subject: Fw: Wagon Roads (4)
>Subject: [OHIO] Wagon Roads to Ohio
>From: glenys(a)sonic.net
>To: Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman 73777,25
>Date: 9-Nov-98 23:39
>
>Meanwhile installment #4 - Wheeling Rivals Pittsburgh:
>
>During parts of the year, the lower water levels and obstructions of the
>loop of the Ohio River from Pittsburgh to Wheeling made navigation
>difficult for the flatboats. Once Wheeling had been reached, it was
>relatively free floating all the way to New Orleans. In the early
>1790s, a cut-off trail below Pittsburgh leading to Wheeling was
>developed. A family could leave Braddock's Road at Union-town,
>Pennsylvania, then head Northwest to Brownsville. After crossing the
>Monongahela River, the trail led to the present-day town of Washington,
>and finally to Wheeling. (Today this is route US Highway 40). At first,
>this cut-off was no more than a path, suitable for pack teams only - but
>an important overland route to the Ohio River. But by 1796, the pack
>trail was improved to allow wagon traffic to pass. As a result of its
>location on the Ohio River and with this overland road access, Wheeling
>began to rival Pittsburgh as the "Gateway to the West". From Wheeling,
>the journey down river to Marietta and Rufas Putnam's land office was
>only a three to four day boat ride.
>
>Zane's Trace
>
>One of the first land grants on the Ohio River went to a man named
>Ebenezer Zane, considered the founder of Wheeling, Virginia (now WV).
>Zane had control of the land on both sides of the river and operated a
>ferry. With a virtual monopoly on ferry traffic at that point, he
>became a very prosperous man. Crossing the Ohio River from Wheeling
>gave access to an Indian trail into the interior of the Ohio country.
>Rufas Putnam's land holdings were nearby and the creation of the new US
>Military District, the Fed. Govt. saw the need for upgrading the trail
>to provide access to these newly opened lands. In 1796 Ebenezer Zane
>contracted with the Fed. Govt. to construct the first wagon road into
>the Ohio country. The road began at the Ohio River opposite wheeling,
>then moved West on the same route today as US Highway 40 (and Interstate
>70) to the settlement at Zanesville, then southwest to Chillicothe, and
>south to the Ohio River again. A ferry ride across the Ohio River
>landed at Limestone, Kentucky (now Maysville), where a road connnection
>from Lexington to the Ohio River was already well-traveled in the
>1790's. When Zanes Trace was first blazed, the dense forests of Ohio
>meant that road construction consisted of cutting the trees, leaving the
>stumps, and clearing out any underbrush to creat a "trace" of a road.
>The passing wagons tended to form two rows of ruts, which were often the
>only visible evidence of a road surface. Grading or leveling
>improvements were made only at places where is was impossible to pass by
>wagon. On Zane's Trace, travelers referred to a "stumped" wagon as one
>that had been highcentered on a stump or stuck between stumps - and the
>word is still used today (when we are "Stumped" over something) (maybe
>like lost families ??:)))- my note, sorry <g>
>
>Southern routes to the Ohio River, ca 1800: Head your wagon towards
>Lexington, Kentucky. From Virginia, Maryland, or Pennsylvania, take the
>Great Valley Road to the Cumberland Gap and the Wilderness Road to
>Lexington. From the Mississippi River, take the Natchez Trace to
>Nashville. From Knoxville, take the Nashville Road, then north to
>Lexington. From Lexington, go north to the Ohio River at Maysville and
>connect with Zane's Trace into the Ohio Country, or build a flatboar and
>float down the Ohio River.
>
>>From NJ or PA begin at Philadelphia, head west to Lancaster thence to
>Hagerstown in MD keep pointed west to Cumberland thence to Wheeling and
>on to the Zanes Trail. Get to Zanesville and decide where to go from
>there. (Looks pretty much to me like your choice was Chillicothe, OH
>then Limestone, KY where you could divert to Cincinnati or continue
>southwest to Lexington then Nashville).
>
>Next: "Appeal of the Ohio Country"
>---
>>>Glenys Rasmussen<<
>http://www.sonic.net/~glenys/
>>>"My home lies wide a thousand miles,
>In the Never-Never Land." (Henry Lawson)<<
>
>______________________________
>
I think this contains much informative material.
Jo
-----Original Message-----
From: Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman <73777.25(a)compuserve.com>
To: Maggie_Ohio-L(a)rootsweb.com <Maggie_Ohio-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 1:02 AM
Subject: Fw: Wagon Roads (5)
>Subject: Re: [OHIO] Wagon Roads cont'd #5
>From: glenys(a)sonic.net
>To: Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman 73777,25
>Date: 10-Nov-98 16:05
>
>Thanks to so many, many of you who have sent me notes - I am so happy
>you are enjoying this little wander - I will resend #3, obviously it's
>floating around somewhere in cyberheaven.
>
>"Appeal of the Ohio Country"
>
>For twenty-five years after the Revolutionary War, the Ohio River was
>the primary destination of virtually all western migrations in the U.S.
>This is where the first public land sales were opened, unlike the South.
>Georgia did not cede its western lands until 1802, and these new public
>lands were encompassed into a new Mississippi Territory. Extensive
>Indian control of western Georgia delayed settlements there and
>migrations from the Atlantic regions into the Southwest did not happen
>until well after the Northwest Territory had opened for settlement. For
>example, the first land sales in Mississippi Territory did not begin
>until 1810. before that, the only real settlements in the South were
>located near the gulf seaports and the Mississippi River towns. As the
>first area opened for settlemtn, the appeal of the Ohio Country was for
>fresh farm land. The Ohio River was the main highway leading to
>settlements on the principal tributaries, such as the Muskingum, Scioto,
>Miami or Wabash Rivers. By floating downstream on a flatboat, the Ohio
>River provided access to fresh lands to be cleared for crop farming and
>where corn would grow so fast you could almost watch it rise. In
>addition, the soils between the Great Lakes and the Ohio River were well
>suited for wheat and other grains besides corn.
>Except for some open areas within the interior parts of the Northwest
>Territory, the river areas were densely covered with huge trees, some
>over a hundred feet in height. Due to the wide branches and closeness
>of the trees, little sunlight penetrated to the ground below.
>Visibility was limited to a couple of hundred feet in any direction, and
>there was an aura of darkness everywhere. However, with sparse
>underbrush below the towering trees, the trails were not nearly as
>difficult to follow as one would imagine.
>the improvement of older roads was to have an impact on migrations to
>the Ohio Country. ... travel on the Great Valley Road through the
>interior of Virginia continued the migration pattern established before
>the Rev. War. As an extension of the Great Valley Road, at Sapling
>Grove, VA (now Bristol) a wagon could head west through the Cumberland
>Gap into Kentucky, or continue south to Knoxville, Tennessee.
>Back in 1788 the Nashville Road had been built by the Militia, linking
>Knoxville to Nashville, a distance of some 180 miles west. (Tenn was
>not a state yet, and still part of North Carolina). The Nashville Road
>quickly became the primary route for East-West traffic through the
>interior of Tenn. Earlier travelers had found the Cumberland and
>Tennessee Rivers as their main highways. With this link from Virginia
>to Knoxville, then on to Nashville, an important circle was completed.
>Nashville was the northern end of the Natchez Trace, an old Indian
>trail.
>By 1796, a road leading from Nashville connected settlements further
>north, all the way to Lexington, Kentucky. From there, a wagon road to
>the Ohio River linked overland travelers to Zane's Trace. It became
>possible to take a wagon from Natchez to Philadelphia - a trip that had
>prveiously been almost exclusively the opposite direction and mostly
>with the help of rivers. The Natchez Trace was first used as a return
>route for boatmen who had floated down the Ohio and Mississippi Rivers
>on flatboats to the ports of Natchez or New Orleans. (New Orleans was
>controlled by the French until 1803 - making Natchez the southern most
>U.S. river port). The children of the first settlers of Kentucky and
>Tenn. became attracted to the lands of the Ohio River as well. Settled
>well before the Rev. War, the green valleys of KY and TN were very
>rewarding for farmers. For the first few years, a farmer could watch
>his corn stalks jump out of the ground in great abundance. But the soil
>began to lose its fertility within seven or eight seasons. The crops
>would begin to decrease in size and consistency.
>Crop rotation and contour plowing for soil retention were techniques not
>used yet, and the application of fertilizer to the soil was only
>practiced by a few enlightened German farmers in Eastern Pennsylvania
>before 1790. Those with large tracts of land learned they had to
>constantly clear and plant new fields and leave older ones fallow for a
>number of years before .. a good crop again. But many farmers gave up
>on their depleting soil - it was easier for some of the next generation
>to relocate, and find virgin land to start anew. A young man with only
>a small farm and a growing family to support believed he had everything
>to gain by moving to the Ohio Country. The opening of roads to the Ohio
>River from several different starting points was also an incentive. the
>lure of the Ohio River settlements was for cheap land and once the land
>was cleared, farming could be easy again. There were only a couple of
>'minor' problems: a few Indians resented the ... invasion into their
>hunting grounds, and it was not necessarily easy traveling to the Ohio
>River from anywhere.
>
>Next #6 "Enter the Turnpike"
>
>Glenys
>--
>>>Glenys Rasmussen<<
>http://www.sonic.net/~glenys/
>>>"My home lies wide a thousand miles,
>In the Never-Never Land." (Henry Lawson)<<
>
>______________________________
>
Does anyone have a copy of "Gwynedd Monthly Meeting Births 1690-1805"?
Could you please send me the publication information if there is such a
book or CD? Do we have this book in our library? I believe Tom Taylor
is correct that the contemporaneous birth record for Sarah Martha Ball
given as tenth month means she was born in December and not October.
All best wishes, Grace
Grace Custer Ebneter
Peachtree City, GA
http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index.html
I too will pipe in ... from a Kester veteran,
Virgil Kester III, USMC
-----Original Message-----
From: Grace Ebneter <gebneter(a)bellsouth.net>
To: CASTOR-L(a)rootsweb.com <CASTOR-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 12:19
Subject: Re: [CASTOR-L] Veterans' Day
>Thanks Father O'Brien and Ken for reminding us of the significance of
>this day.
>All best wishes from another Custer veteran,
>Grace (USAF)
>Grace Custer Ebneter
>Peachtree City, GA
>http://members.tripod.com/~EbneterG/index.html
>
>