Hi, Vonda and Casey List Members!
I beg your patience as I try and work through my DNA
question...
James Casey, b. abt 1790 in South Carolina, and listed
with family in 1850 Cass Co. Georgia Census, is my
3GGrandfather. I do not have any male brothers or
cousins who can submit DNA, so I have taken Tim's
resolution to heart and I am searching for a living
male Casey cousin descendant from one of my known
great's families. I'm getting closer...Still not sure
how I'm going to approach complete strangers in East
Texas or Oklahoma or Arkansas hahaha. But, I'll find
someone...
My question is this: If we have no knowledge of who
James Casey's father was -- on paper, how will the DNA
results help. In other words, won't it just be numbers
without names? If someone from say, Uriah or Moses
Casey's lineage submits their DNA, and it matches my
James' descendant's DNA, have I discovered anything
other than what I already know, that is, that we are
related somehow, but not exactly in what way?
I'm so sorry if my question is lame! I guess I just
need to understand exactly what we are expecting from
the project. I'm crossing my fingers that Casey
breakthroughs in this area will help me remove even a
tiny brick of this James Casey wall!
And wishing everyone the Luck o' the Irish on this day
of days...especially in our genealogical endeavors!
Thanks always for the great contributions to the list.
Lisa Casey Perry
--- VondaD(a)aol.com wrote:
As I said before I do not understand all I know
about DNA! I know just
enough to be dangerous. I bought 2 books on the
subject (one the Idiot's Guide)
but have not learned much from just staring at the
covers! Having said that I
will say this: My concern is not so much making
sure there is a match between
individuals who supposedly descend from the same
"oldest known ancestor"
(although a concern, usually a documented paper
trail can confirm that) but
finding someone who has absolute, positive
documented proof that they descend
from a much earlier ancestor (for instance Abner the
Immigrant). If we do not
have a "gold standard" we have no goal to work
toward or DNA results to try and
match. I have several lines who are participating in
DNA testing. In my
Wells line I share an "oldest known ancestor" with
someone who has been tested
and his DNA test results show a 37/37 marker match
with a participant who has
proof (paper trail that includes Bible records,
wills, etc.) that he descends
from an early Wells out of Delaware. He (the
participant with proof he
descends from the Delaware Wells) is our "gold
standard" Although the match is not
conclusive proof (as I understand it, and I could
be wrong) we can now
begin/continue our search for documented evidence
to support the theory that we
also descend from that same early Delaware Wells.
Do we have any Casey "gold
standards" and if so who are they?
Vonda
In a message dated 3/17/2006 6:43:01 AM Central
Standard Time,
joy_harr(a)swbell.net writes:
Maybe it's been said before, but ideally at least
two Caseys need to submit
DNA to verify their very own line. In other words,
if two males think they
descend from say, a John X. Casey b 1840, and their
numbers DON'T match,
there may be an unknown adoption or illegitimacy
somewhere in one of their
bloodlines. Then, a third male of that line should
submit DNA to compare
with one of the others. The one who doesn't match
might indeed not be a true
Casey or else he could just be mistaken about his
research and who his Casey
ancestor really is. Or, a possibility is that they
just don't match on one
of the fast-moving markers where mutations occur
more rapidly. (Hope this
all makes sense! Am not a scientist.)
Am hoping for a decent match for my earliest-known:
Daniel Casey ~1760 VA
then to Wilkes/Elbert Co. GA. He's already on the
chart via male proxy but I
still need to get another known cousin to verify
the line since we only have
one kit submitted. We do have D.A.R. paper proof on
our line back to this
Daniel. Before that, unknown, though suspected.
-Joyce H.
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