Glenda,
The 1851 census of England has an Elizabeth Casey(spelled that way) 12,
scholar, living at 55 Holmfirth, Township of Wooldale, Parochial Chapelry of
Holmfirth, York. She is listed as a 12 year old sister, in the household of
Michael Flanaghan, shopkeeper, age 34, wife Bridget (probably Elizabeth's
sister), 30, Houseworker, both born in Ireland and their children Mary, 10,
scholar, born in Haddersfield, Yorkshire; Margaret 8, scholar, Bridget 3,
Michael 5. All of the children are born in Yorkshire, but not all the same
places. Margaret and Michael were born in Sheffield, and Bridget was born in
Holmfirth. There are also a 50 year old (Ann Downey) and a 25 year old(Mary
Coygins) and a 21 year old (Bridget Kiley) visitors in the house, all
houseworkers, all born in ireland.
I could find no other Elizabeth Casey that fits your relative.
However, as I looked, I found a Catherine McDermott, born in Ireland, the
head of a household, living just a short distance from the Flanaghan home.
She is 29, a Hawker, listed as married (but no husband is present), living
at 64 St. Anne Square, with her son James (born in Huddersfield, age 9 Maria
(Huddersfield) 4, John 2 (Sheffield), Ellen 1mo (Holmfirth)) . There is also
a 16 year old Lodger, a irishman from Hawker, and a tramp over 18 (age
unknown), whose birthplace is simply listed as "NK".
My guess is this James McDermott may be your James McDermott, though he is a
tiny bit younger than your grandmother, and is not listed as being from
Ireland, given the closeness of where he has lived and where he has lived
being all near her.
Oh, one other thing that makes me think this might be James who married
Elizabeth: St. Anne Square is listed just above a block of Holmfirth street
just on past the Flanaghans's place
Rita Casey
on 4/27/07 3:02 AM, casey-request(a)rootsweb.com at casey-request(a)rootsweb.com
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: CASEY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 10 (Sunsethill)
2. Casey spellings etc. (Glenda Lightowler)
3. Re: Wayne Co, TN Caseys (carey rogers)
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:10:28 -0700
From: "Sunsethill" <sunsethillce(a)saber.net>
Subject: Re: [CASEY] CASEY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 10
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All the different spellings are getting to me. I have Case on a marriage
cetififcate in AZ in 1916 but added to that sometime after is a y. I found
James Case who died in Pueblo. Co in 1898 who I believe was the father of my
Arthur who was born in Pueblo and was married in AZ as Case. My husband
always knew them, his mothers parents, as Casey and I think his mother added
the y sometime down the line. I have tried finding both spellings with no
luck although I know Arthur's dad was James and his mother Nellie. James
father was born in IA about 1853-59 and his mother in NY but I can't find
any of them on any census. Should I try looking for Kazey? I don't have
much access but will try anything. To bad there isn't a general index of all
the states. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Margaret
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Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:08:42 +0100
From: "Glenda Lightowler" <glendalight(a)manx.net>
Subject: [CASEY] Casey spellings etc.
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Dear listers
Some interesting ideas here.
My gg grandmother was described on her son James birth certificate (1856)as
Elizabeth KASY. She married a James McDermott who appears on a census as
coming from Cavan Ireland. Possibly her family did also.
However, I searched for her just as CASEY and believe she was born in
Huddersfield, Yorks UK - but whether her family were immigrants who spoke with
an Irish accent (or even spelt it that way) is another thing.
Always interested in info on this lady. I have been very busy with
transcriptions for about 2 yrs and not had time to research this fully.
All the best
Glenda Lightowler
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:29:40 -0500
From: "carey rogers" <careyrogers(a)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [CASEY] Wayne Co, TN Caseys
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I have searched for the parents of James G. Casey for years. He is in
Hardeman County from about 1830 to 1868 when he moved to Jefferson County,
Illinois. There is also a James A. Casey in Hardeman County and both James'
were married in 1829. The bond for James G. was made by James L. Casey. Very
confusing. James A and James G. lived very close to Aaron and Wilson Casey. I
don't know if this is the same Aaron and Wilson.
John Casey is in the 1830 Hardeman County census. A James Casey is listed as
the administrator of the will of John Casey in 1839 in Hardeman County.
Purchasers at his estate sale included Aaron P. Casey, James A. Casey, S.
Rogers, and James G. Casey,
John Casey apparently had a daughter Elizabeth Casey who married Spirons
Rogers and moved to Dallas County, Arkansas. Her tombstone says she was born
in Murry (Maury) County Tennessee in 1818. A book on the Spirons Rogers
family in Arkansas says Elizabeth's father was a John Casey. There is also a
John Casey in Maury County in 1820. There is also an Aaron Casey in Dallas
County in 1850.
I'm not sure what all this means except there has to be some connection
between all these people. There is a Hiram Casey in Hardeman County who dies
in 1828. He was the son of Randolph Casey of Smith County, Tennessee. Some of
Hiram's children moved to north Arkansas but I have found no connection to the
other Caseys in Hardeman County. For what's it's worth James G. Casey named a
son Hiram (my gg grandfather) but there are approximately one hundred Hiram
Caseys.
Can anyone help on these people?
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From: <VondaD(a)aol.com>
To: <casey(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [CASEY] Wayne Co, TN Caseys
>
> You are absolutely right that census takers often abbreviated John as Jno
> and I had made a note on my copy the 1830 census image (which I had
> enlarged)
> questioning whether the name was Ira (as transcribed by
Ancestry.com) or
> Jno.
> There are 3 other Johns and a Joshua on that same page and the "Js" in
all
> those names look the same as the first letter of the name transcribed as
> Ira.
> My only question was why did the census taker choose to write out the name
> John in 3 cases and abbreviate it in the other? Long ago I stopped trying to
> get inside the head of a census taker!!
>
> I am just curious about the 3 Casey children listed in the 1850 Wayne County
> census. Perhaps their father died and their mother remarried or perhaps both
> parents died. I was hoping maybe someone knew something about the family.
> The 1840 Wayne County census shows Wilson Casey with children in the
> household
> whose ages match those of the children shown on the 1850 census. Anyone know
> what happened to Wilson after 1840? Has he been found on a census after that
> date?
>
> Vonda
>
>
> In a message dated 4/20/2007 5:49:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> dlc(a)casey-genealogy.com writes:
>
> Just for what it's worth, the Jas. H. Casey in the 1840 Wayne Co., TN census
> is beyond a doubt my ancestor (I of kit #45068).
>
> Since a lot of this query is about a John Casey, I would recommend folks
> look at the actual census images for 1830 where we find a Willis, Wilson,
> and IRA Casey, because I've looked at the images and believe Ira _may_
> actually be _Jno_ Casey (why is Jno. an abbreviation for John -- in other
> words why does John need to be abbreviated?). I could be wrong, and I think
> that this has been perpetuated by someone transcribing that census for us
> somewhere online as Ira for all this time when it's actually Jno...
>
> And some other BTW's: There are only 2 Caseys in the 1820 Wayne Co., TN
> census - bothAbners. James H. Casey's Memoriam states he was born in SC
> (Spartanburg) but was in Wayne Co., TN by 1820...of course he would have
> only been 7 in 1820 being born in 1813...and only 1 of these Abners had a
> male child of that right age... The 1830 census showing a Willis Casey is
> interesting as Jas. H. Casey later names one of his sons Willis Casey (b.
> 1836)...making me think this Willis Casey is either is uncle or perhaps an
> older brother (?)...
>
> Well, just tidbits from me at this late insomniac hour...
>
>
> "We CAN do eet!" -- Rob Schneider in any of a number of Adam Sandler
> movies...
>
> DLC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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