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Tim or Chris, I just tried to order my DNA test Kit, and after filling out
the page and pushing the Continue Button at the bottom of the page, "The
page could not be found." message appeared.
Roger A. Casey
Sounds right to me.
Roger A. Casey
-----Original Message-----
From: VondaD(a)aol.com [mailto:VondaD@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 12:00 PM
To: CASEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CASEY-L] Casey DNA Project- clarity of test/results
I don't understand all I know about DNA! I know practically nothing so I
understand even less! I am a member of a couple of DNA Projects and I
mainly
depend on the Project Administrator to keep me straight on things. What I
have
come to understand (I think) is that we try to find a "gold standard" for
the
each early known ancestor. That is someone who can prove absolutely without
a
doubt that they descend from a certain early ancestor. They have Bible
records, wills, deeds, etc. Such a person (if there is one) who has proven
descent
from a certain ancestor is tested and all others who are tested and whose
DNA test results match that persons DNA test results (hopefully a 37/37
marker
match) can reasonably assume they also descend from the same ancestor. A
lot
depends on finding those "gold standards". That is my simple minded
understanding of how it works. If I'm wrong someone advise.
Vonda
In a message dated 3/4/2006 12:13:24 AM Central Standard Time,
sactoscott(a)juno.com writes:
DNA Listers,
Pardon my ignorance and I'm sure after reading more on the related e-mails
and provided websites I'd be much more informed and related things clear.
If I have genealogical interests, how does the basic DNA test help me or
others? If it's via my mother can I participate? Is the test or the
results clear to understand and use for such interests with the provided
results (clear to the layman genealogist)?
Thank you,
Scott
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Sinclair Casey b. 1799 (probably Kanawha Co., WV or Ireland) m. Jamima
Nibert/Nieghbert
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Thomas William Casey b. 1828 Mason Co.,VA. m. Emily Mays/Mayes
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William Sinclair Casey b. 1855 Mason Co., VA m. Sydney Angeline
Lewis
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Clyde Calvin Casey b. 1905 Cabell Co., WV m. Mabel Shannon
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Roger Allen Casey (me)
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Dear Joyce
I've been lurking on this list for some time since I decided that a lady
named Elizabeth MCDERMOTT nee "KASY" ( as on a birth certificate) was really
a CASEY. I have had some information from another source that seems to bear
this out but I have been too busy with transcriptions to attend to verifying
the matter from church records (and I do not live in Derbyshire). I think,
from later censuses, that the lady was born in Sheffield. The family ended
up in South Shields.
However there may be someone out there who knows for definite. The
certificate quoted is for the birth of my g grandfather James MCDERMOTT, b.
7/9/1856 Chesterfield Derbyshire. Father James MCDERMOTT Journeyman
Cordwainer of Narrow Lane Chesterfield - mother being the aforementioned
Elizabeth 'KASY'
Thank you
Glenda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joyce" <joy_harr(a)swbell.net>
To: <CASEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:37 PM
Subject: Spelling variations for CASEY surname
> As we've all by now observed, our surname CASEY was spelled in various
> ways
> in the early records. Listed below are some definite variations or
> suspected variations of the surname CASEY that I've come across. Most are
> "really" CASEY-proven by their occurrence in the same document or in later
> records which obviously refer to the same individual. <snip>>
>
>
><snip>>
>
>
><snip>>
>
> <snip>
<snip>>
>
> ______________________________
Good for you! I finally found a Jesse E. Casey descendant who agreed to be
tested and the kit has been ordered (37 markers). OK, folks Lewis and I have
done our part - it's your turn!
Vonda Dihm
GGGGranddaugher of Jesse E. Casey (1797-1863). I descent through his son
Anthony and Anthony's son Levi Newton Casey and Levi's daughter Sarah Jane Casey.
Vonda Dihm
In a message dated 3/4/2006 2:55:46 PM Central Standard Time,
ltcasey(a)verizon.net writes:
I couldn't take it any longer either -- reading of all the possibilities and
possibly making some progress on my 'brick wall.'
I ordered the DNA kit (Y-DNA37 - 37 Marker Test)
http://www.familytreedna.com/description.html today.
Lewis Casey
GGGrandson of Sinclair CASEY, b. abt 1799 and Jemima Nibert, b. abt 1810.
They lived in Mason County, VA (now WV).
I have heard (and seen) that if there were individuals with the same given
and surname in the same county that the younger one added a Jr. to his name
even if he was only distantly related to the person of the same name. Now that
can (and has) cause major problems!
Vonda
In a message dated 3/3/2006 7:37:57 AM Central Standard Time,
joy_harr(a)swbell.net writes:
I've read that sometimes when there were
several people with the same given name/surname resided in the same county,
that one would change the surname spelling deliberately in order to
differentiate themselves from the others who shared his name. Has anyone
else seen this happen?
I just sent in $25 to help fund the Casey DNA project. My brother is one of
the guys who have been tested already. I'm excited about the DNA study being
a possible way to verify whether some of our Casey ancestors are related.
I teach some behavior genetics in my work, so I like this methodology to
help us figure out some "big relationships" among various lines of Casey's.
My own Casey's, as some others who are active here on this listserve, came
out of VA (some through NC too), through KY, into MO (and some into ILL on
the way to MO).
If we have a common male ancestor with the VA Casey's that ended up in ILL,
this testing will tell us that. It will not, of course, tell us exactly how
far back those common ancestors were, or if they were in this country or
elsewhere. However, if there is a match, we will all know that the
"matchers" come from the same male line.
Rita Casey
I couldn't take it any longer either -- reading of all the possibilities and
possibly making some progress on my 'brick wall.'
I ordered the DNA kit (Y-DNA37 - 37 Marker Test)
http://www.familytreedna.com/description.html today.
Lewis Casey
GGGrandson of Sinclair CASEY, b. abt 1799 and Jemima Nibert, b. abt 1810.
They lived in Mason County, VA (now WV).
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Casey [mailto:timcasey2@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:42 PM
To: CASEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CASEY-L] Tim Casey and Casey DNA Project
I just mailed my Casey DNA to the Casey DNA Project. I had been wanting to
do this since I started the Casey DNA project, so now I hope any descendant
of Abner Casey of SC, Peter Casey of WV, any of the VA Casey lines, would
submit a male Casey DNA to the Casey Project. Money is a problem for all of
us , my wife eyebrows go up everytime I decide I need to do something.
I would like everyone to know that I have mailed my DNA to be processed. I
hope you will do the same. I should thank my Casey Cousins who helped me
with the cost from our Casey Reunion Fund.
Tim Casey
gggg grandson of John Casey and Drucilla Hill of SC, KY, IL
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I don't understand all I know about DNA! I know practically nothing so I
understand even less! I am a member of a couple of DNA Projects and I mainly
depend on the Project Administrator to keep me straight on things. What I have
come to understand (I think) is that we try to find a "gold standard" for the
each early known ancestor. That is someone who can prove absolutely without a
doubt that they descend from a certain early ancestor. They have Bible
records, wills, deeds, etc. Such a person (if there is one) who has proven descent
from a certain ancestor is tested and all others who are tested and whose
DNA test results match that persons DNA test results (hopefully a 37/37 marker
match) can reasonably assume they also descend from the same ancestor. A lot
depends on finding those "gold standards". That is my simple minded
understanding of how it works. If I'm wrong someone advise.
Vonda
In a message dated 3/4/2006 12:13:24 AM Central Standard Time,
sactoscott(a)juno.com writes:
DNA Listers,
Pardon my ignorance and I'm sure after reading more on the related
e-mails and provided websites I'd be much more informed and related
things clear. If I have genealogical interests, how does the basic DNA
test help me or others? If it's via my mother can I participate? Is the
test or the results clear to understand and use for such interests with
the provided results (clear to the layman genealogist)?
Thank you,
Scott
Hey Wanda. Yes, I know there are many descendants of Jesse E. out there (I
have documented over 6000 so far so there must be a few living male
descendants with the Casey name out there! :-). I am starting with the ones I know
personally and I don't think there is going to be a problem. If things don't work
out I will let you know. Thanks for the offer.
Vonda
In a message dated 3/4/2006 8:11:03 AM Central Standard Time,
wnorman918(a)aol.com writes:
Mornin Vonda,
Hello friend. Have you forgotten that Claremore, OK. is chuck full of
Jesse
Casey's dec.? I don't live there anymore, but maybe I could contact some
of
them. How about it? Let me know. They are descendants of Elax Casey,
the
son of Jesse.
Wanda
"Never" hear anything about this Roger Casey but he had 12 white people
in household in Amherst Co. VA in 1783 tax list. Lived on Taylor's Creek in
Amherst Co. in 1771. Believe he was the same Roger Casey later found in
Wilkes/laterLincoln Co. GA by 1785. He had 198 acres on Fishing Creek, which
is off the Savannah River right across the SC line.
Roger's documented children are Sarah, Ellinor, Peggy, Hannah and John.
Another probable son was named Joel (who later paid taxes on Roger's same
198 acres in Lincoln Co.). Circumstantial evidence points to other possible
sons named Thomas and William, as well as my ancestor Daniel.
In Amherst Co., VA Roger Casey's neighbors were Hezekiah Inman, Edward
Moseley, Samuel Wood, William Montgomery, and David Meriwether.
In Wilkes/Lincoln Co. GA Roger Casey had very strong connections with the
Montgomery, Shannon, and Owen/s surnames.
A surrogate-male descendant has posted his DNA for our "Daniel"
line-there's not an exact match for anyone else so far. But with twelve
people in Roger Casey's VA household, there must be a few descendants out
there, wouldn't you think :-) It would be exciting if someone turned out
to match. However, first we need to get another male relative to submit DNA
to verify our own (known) line!
- Joyce Harris
Meant to say RANDOLPH Casey in earlier message below instead of
Abraham--that's what you get for trying to hurry off a message when already
late for work, sorry.
The actual reference abstracts for these transactions were found in:
"Laurens County South Carolina - Minutes of the County Court 1786-1789"
by Brent Holcomb, 2004, and "Laurens County South Carolina - Deed Abstracts
Books A-D" by Larry Vehorn, 2004. Timeframe 1787...Randolph
Casy/Casey/Carsey and Charity his wife "of Greenville Co." were selling land
in Laurens Co. which had earlier been conveyed by Christopher Plines to
Jacob Penington then to Randolph Casy and Charity his wife by will. Levi
Casy/Casey witnessed.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joyce [mailto:joy_harr@swbell.net]
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 7:37 AM
To: CASEY-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CASEY-L] Spelling variations for CASEY surname
Something I've noticed is that the "r" sound occurs many times in the
earlier spellings. (Wonder if this was from influence of an Irish
pronunciation. Would love to have heard their speech in Revolutionary
times.) For instance, there are records where Abraham "Casy" and his wife
Charity participated in a deed in SC. In the abstract, his name was spelled
both CASY and CARSEY. In a different court record referring to the same
transaction, it was spelled "Casey...
Mornin Vonda,
Hello friend. Have you forgotten that Claremore, OK. is chuck full of Jesse
Casey's dec.? I don't live there anymore, but maybe I could contact some of
them. How about it? Let me know. They are descendants of Elax Casey, the
son of Jesse.
Wanda
My Dempsey Casey b. in 1762-68 in Va. doesn't seem to line up with other
Casey lineage even though the research has been done for over 40 years now.
I have forwarded the DNA request onto all my Casey cousins to see if one of
the male siblings may be interested in providing their DNA.
Alicia Jones
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From: "Tim Casey" <timcasey2(a)verizon.net>
To: <CASEY-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 8:17 PM
Subject: [CASEY-L] CASEY DNA PROJECT WEBSITE
> Below is the CASEY DNA PROJECT WEBSITE.
>
> http://casey.com/dna/
> Chris Casey webmaster
>
>
> Please check this out. Check it out and join, leave a message how you
are a Casey are related to a Casey.
> Tim Casey
> Casey DNA Project
>
> Note: Tim Casey and Chris Casey do not recieve any monies for the CASEY
DNA PROJECT , they volunteer thier time to this project. Genealogy of the
Casey families is the Goal, to find those dead ends and maybe connect to
someone thru DNA.
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Another surname project discussed on a different mailing List I belong
to is very active and after several years has several strongly defined
groups matching on their chart. For that surname, when a person wants to
submit DNA and needs financial assistance, they privately contact the
Project Administrator, who posts a notice on their Rootsweb Mailing List
asking for specific donations for that test subject. It's all anonymous as
to who needs the help. The only thing that's "advertised" is who the most
distant male ancestor of that person is thought to be.
A hypothetical example: Say, a male is pretty sure, but is not
positive, he is a descendant of Randolph Doe b 1740 in NC. Now then, there
has been a longstanding discussion on the Doe List about whether Randolph
Doe was of the same line as John Doe b 1730 VA (thought to be his brother).
Several of John's descendants have already submitted DNA which matches each
other in 25-marker tests, showing they have a common ancestor. (How long ago
the commonality occurred depends on how detailed their test was.) Everyone
on the List is excited because this is the first male descendant of ole
Randolph who has stepped up. However, as mentioned, money for testing is a
factor. Given that many people on the list are interested in untangling the
lines of Randolph and Jesse Doe, including female researchers, they will
usually have someone volunteer to contribute to that particular test. Maybe
one, two, or three people in a day will e-mail the Project Administrator,
who will announce that funding is complete and the individual can proceed
with testing.
(I don't know the behind-the-scenes logistics for all this because it's
worked out anonymously between the Project Administrator, the potential test
subject, the benefactor(s) and the DNA company. This approach is in addition
to having a general fund like Tim mentioned. This approach works because
sometimes a person may be interested in helping with research on a
particular line of a given surname, more so than others, so they wait to
make a specific contribution to a particular line of research.
And.if it turns out the "Randolph Doe" DNA does NOT match the group who
is already out there for Jesse Doe, then there are several possibilities:
perhaps there's either an unknown adoption or illegitimacy further back in
his line (which could be verified by having another person of his line
tested), or, he has been mistaken in his research and needs to go in a
different direction. This is good! .to know you've been looking up the wrong
tree and then not waste further time. Again, the person doing the testing
is always anonymous, so no need to be embarrassed about anything.
Not being a scientific guru by a long shot, I hope I haven't misstated
something here. For those interested in DNA testing, what it can "prove" or
not, the FAQ's on the familytreedna.com website provide a pretty good
explanation of the process and its limitations in layman's terms. Also, Tim
has just posted an explanation with Casey examples.
- Joyce Harris
Scott,
I can only speak from my families research, many of the Casey families in SC were in Spartanburg, Newberry, Union, Laurens counties. All are said to be descendants of Abner Casey and Harriet. This may be true as written by Lewis Casey some 150 years ago back when he wrote his genealogy, he being a descendant of Randolph Casey.
Now there are other Casey's that are there in SC whom we can not find a relationship to other Casey's , the DNA that I sent in may match all of the other Casey donars of DNA in that region , this is good because it will show those Caseys were of the same Male Casey.
Now say Peter Casey of WV is noted as a brother to Abner Casey both came to Baltimore MD early 1700's , we have a Male descendant of Peter Casey who sends his DNA into the project , his DNA matches with my DNA well we can believe yes Peter and Abner were of the same family.
Now there are Casey's in VA during the Indian Wars , it is said that Abner lived in VA as did his sons , the DNA sent by some of the VA Casey male descendants would match or may not , if not then they would be of a different Casey line but by doing the DNA those Casey's in VA may connect others to their line.
The only way error could be for a Male Casey is he was adopted and did not know it or his father was not a Male Casey.
When the results are sent to you they are sent to the project not your name but your test # then this is put in a table and they show the matches.
Hopefully when the project grows I will match with every SC CASEY and I will match to the VA Casey line. This is because of the migration of my family.
Say your CASEY line migrated from MA to OH to MO thru those families in that area those that did DNA may match. This project will also at some point may show our relationships to the Ireland Casey's as many of us have been told by our elders this is where we originated my line is said to be of County Tyrone Ireland.
My Casey family migrated from MD to VA to SC to KY to IL , okay in my research in Montgomery and Fayette Co IL , I find a Wilson Casey now who does he belong to , I traced him back to Wayne Co TN , and he may be a descendant of James Casey the revolutionary Soldier of Isle of Wight. IF I could find a male descendant of his to do the DNA , I could check his with my DNA and see if we match, if not then I would try to find a descendant of James Casey to see if their DNA would match. This is how DNA would and can solve those dead ends , stumbling blocks.
It is a great tool for the genealogists , a person spends time and money going to courthouses, internet , books. I went to SC to research , 11 hours driving , gas , hotels, food, I had fun but the cost of doing the DNA project is low and it is something everyone will see on the CASEY DNA PROJECT you will connect to other Casey families .
I hope I answered your questions, this is new to me also and I feel it is worthwhile for any Casey researcher to invest in.
Tim Casey
scott humphrey <sactoscott(a)juno.com> wrote:
DNA Listers,
Pardon my ignorance and I'm sure after reading more on the related
e-mails and provided websites I'd be much more informed and related
things clear. If I have genealogical interests, how does the basic DNA
test help me or others? If it's via my mother can I participate? Is the
test or the results clear to understand and use for such interests with
the provided results (clear to the layman genealogist)?
Thank you,
Scott
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:03:03 -0800 (PST) Tim Casey
writes:
>
> Chris and Tim Casey are the administrators of the Casey DNA
> Project, we have never met but thru email. Chris is the webmaster
> for the Casey DNA Project and I started the process. The cost of
> doing the DNA project may be out of reach of some of our Casey
> researchers, they would like to do it if they could, but the cost
> may be the problem.
>
> Good news is the Casey's are a Clannish group, it was once said in
> my history that you could find the Casey's in the grocery or the
> pulpit.
>
> The Casey DNA project does have a account where we can donate
> money to be used to help those who would like to do the DNA project.
>
> I was thinking before writing this that if we have 130 Casey
> subscribers to this Casey mail list and we all donated $10.00 ,
> thats a meal out , we would have $1300.00 to work with getting more
> Casey families in our Casey DNA project.
>
> I would like any discussion on this and Casey Researchers who
> would like to participate , we can then discuss having a board for
> the donations.
>
> I have not ran this by Chris Casey as yet but I am sure he will
> have some input on this project.
>
>
> Tim Casey
> CASEY DNA PROJECT CO Adminstrator
> timcasey3(a)verizon.net
>
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DNA Listers,
Pardon my ignorance and I'm sure after reading more on the related
e-mails and provided websites I'd be much more informed and related
things clear. If I have genealogical interests, how does the basic DNA
test help me or others? If it's via my mother can I participate? Is the
test or the results clear to understand and use for such interests with
the provided results (clear to the layman genealogist)?
Thank you,
Scott
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:03:03 -0800 (PST) Tim Casey <timcasey2(a)verizon.net>
writes:
>
> Chris and Tim Casey are the administrators of the Casey DNA
> Project, we have never met but thru email. Chris is the webmaster
> for the Casey DNA Project and I started the process. The cost of
> doing the DNA project may be out of reach of some of our Casey
> researchers, they would like to do it if they could, but the cost
> may be the problem.
>
> Good news is the Casey's are a Clannish group, it was once said in
> my history that you could find the Casey's in the grocery or the
> pulpit.
>
> The Casey DNA project does have a account where we can donate
> money to be used to help those who would like to do the DNA project.
>
> I was thinking before writing this that if we have 130 Casey
> subscribers to this Casey mail list and we all donated $10.00 ,
> thats a meal out , we would have $1300.00 to work with getting more
> Casey families in our Casey DNA project.
>
> I would like any discussion on this and Casey Researchers who
> would like to participate , we can then discuss having a board for
> the donations.
>
> I have not ran this by Chris Casey as yet but I am sure he will
> have some input on this project.
>
>
> Tim Casey
> CASEY DNA PROJECT CO Adminstrator
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OK, I sent my $25.00 so we should now have $60.00.
Vonda
In a message dated 3/3/2006 8:34:09 PM Central Standard Time,
timcasey2(a)verizon.net writes:
Here is the link so you can make a donation to the CASEY DNA PROJECT.
http://www.familytreedna.com/contribution.html
A contributer can print the form and mail it , use their credit card or
paypal.
As of 8:32 pm we have $10.00 contributed and I sent $25.00 and now we have
$35.00.
Tim Casey
Here is the link so you can make a donation to the CASEY DNA PROJECT.
http://www.familytreedna.com/contribution.html
A contributer can print the form and mail it , use their credit card or paypal.
As of 8:32 pm we have $10.00 contributed and I sent $25.00 and now we have $35.00.
Tim Casey
I have paid for a DNA test for a cousin of one of my other lines and plan to
pay for a test for a descendant of Jesse E. Casey (1797-1863) as soon as I
track one down. I may have found one and should know soon. Hopefully after all
that I will still be able to manage a $10.00 contribution to the Casey DNA
Project fund.
Vonda Dihm
In a message dated 3/3/2006 1:58:46 PM Central Standard Time,
timcasey2(a)verizon.net writes:
Chris and Tim Casey are the administrators of the Casey DNA Project, we have
never met but thru email. Chris is the webmaster for the Casey DNA Project
and I started the process. The cost of doing the DNA project may be out of
reach of some of our Casey researchers, they would like to do it if they could,
but the cost may be the problem.
Good news is the Casey's are a Clannish group, it was once said in my
history that you could find the Casey's in the grocery or the pulpit.
The Casey DNA project does have a account where we can donate money to be
used to help those who would like to do the DNA project.
I was thinking before writing this that if we have 130 Casey subscribers to
this Casey mail list and we all donated $10.00 , thats a meal out , we would
have $1300.00 to work with getting more Casey families in our Casey DNA
project.
I would like any discussion on this and Casey Researchers who would like to
participate , we can then discuss having a board for the donations.
I have not ran this by Chris Casey as yet but I am sure he will have some
input on this project.
Tim Casey
CASEY DNA PROJECT CO Adminstrator
timcasey3(a)verizon.net