For the Wilson line, I meant it stopped at 1730 in Virginia, and if course, DNA on line 2.
Will proof read in the future.
Jack
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From: Jack Case Wilson <jackcasewilson(a)aol.com>
To: Lloyd.Case(a)AltadenaDigital.com; case-family(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [CASE-FAMILY] CASE-FAMILY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4
ear Lloyd,
I couldn't agree with you more. Years ago, I did the cheek swab test to have my
N run by Oxford Ancestors located at Oxford University in England. They have an
normous international database. I am a Wilson male and although I can trace
emale lines back over 1500 years, the Wilson record stops at about 1530. The Y
hromosome very, very rarely mutates, so most male lines have identical Y
hromosomes from father to son. I learned the I am of Celtic descent in the male
ine meaning my male ancestors in direct line came from the earlier inhabitants
f Great Britain, either Wales, Ireland or Scotland. Oxford Ancestors has maps
hat show the migration of your bloodlines as far back as 25,000 years ago both
ale and female.We will not ever know their names, but I find it fascinating to
e able to trace the migration patterns of our far distant ancestors.
Jack Case Wilson, of the Pisgah Forest, North Carolina Cases
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rom: Lloyd Case <magnetservices(a)earthlink.net>
o: case-family(a)rootsweb.com
ent: Mon, May 2, 2011 11:44 am
ubject: Re: [CASE-FAMILY] CASE-FAMILY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4
im,
am far from knowledgeable about the Carolina Case sources. Still, I
ink there are a lot of emmigration and ship records on line that I
uld try before a trip. I think the DNA thing is useful too. You get a
cture of where the current bloodline relatives live. As a family
grates over the years, they leave members along the trail and so you
n get a good idea of where the closest and the long-ago relatives
ved. I traced my blood line to Ireland, France, Spain, Latvia, and
e Ukraine in that order. It should span over 1000 years (known by the
netic mutation you get the distance of the relationship). Anyway, it
a lot to guide you, even though you do not get names, you do get a
od idea of the trail of the "surname relatives" with a y-DNA test.
at can help narrow down where you look for links. It costs about $200
d involves swabbing the inside of your cheek.... all very easy. I used
mily Tree DNA [
www.familytreedna.com] and their Case surname
oject
ttp://www.familytreedna.com/surname-search-results.aspx?sType=eq&Sear...].
It was worth the time/money.
rry I could not help more but I do wish you good luck.
oyd
n 5/2/2011 7:35 AM, tcase(a)rochester.rr.com wrote:
My understanding is Cases came over on the Dorset - John Case's father,
lliam, died on voyage and John ultimately setttled in Simsbury. Ct.
---- Jim Case<jamescase42(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Lloyd,
Well, this is a dashing blow to find that I'm most likely unrelated to the
John Case of Simsbury, CT - but not a problem. Have you - or anyone, ever
seen a ship's manifest that had Cases disembarking at Savannah (arriving
with Ogelthorpe)? We had a legend in our family that our Cases came out of
debtors prison, traveled with Ogelthorpe, and the claim that at least my Dad
had was that our Case origins were actually Welsh.
I'm just try to figure out where the Carolina Cases originated, if not from
CT. Oh, and curiously, but maybe not so much, the given names of the men in
John's family are repeated generation upon generation in my branch of the
Cases. That's why it seemed like a good match to me.
And while I'm asking the impossible - are there any good sources of records
that you know of in the Carolinas from colonial days? Would it be worth a
trip to see in person, and if so, what would you recommend to visit?
Regards,
Jim
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:01 AM,<case-family-request(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
Today's Topics:
1. Connecting Cases in NC/SC with John Case in Simsbury, CT
(Jim Case)
2. Re: Connecting Cases in NC/SC with John Case in Simsbury, CT
(Lloyd Case)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 07:27:59 -0500
From: Jim Case<jamescase42(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [CASE-FAMILY] Connecting Cases in NC/SC with John Case in
Simsbury, CT
To: CASE-FAMILY(a)rootsweb.com
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Hi,
New to this genealogy bug, I'm fortunate to have my line already traced
back
to SC, Thomas "Tootie" or "Toody" Case, born mid-1700s. My 4th
cousin
Vernon has graciously allowed me to leverage off of his previous work, done
largely before the internet came to be. However, the trail seems to go cold
at Tom Tootie. The thought is that he might be the son of William Case of
NC, who was noted to have lived in CT as a young man. This William was
supposed to have lived to age 109.
However, these are just the best guess - no proof of anything beyond Tom
Tootie living in SC in the late 1700s and his families (apparently two
wives
and families) moving to southern MS circa 1795 - 1803.
--
Jim Case
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 08:56:44 -0700
From: Lloyd Case<magnetservices(a)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CASE-FAMILY] Connecting Cases in NC/SC with John Case in
Simsbury, CT
To: case-family(a)rootsweb.com
Message-ID:<4DBC313C.1060702@earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Jim,
I am a Case who has tried what you suggest... and found that the
"Carolina Cases" and the "Connecticut Cases" are genetically (y-DNA)
separate, distinct peoples. They are indeed the two main line Case
migrations into America but they are NOT related. I found a third
line.... "Delaware Cases". There are far fewer of them, but they too are
distinct from the other Case migrations into America.
Good hunting!
Lloyd Case
On 4/30/2011 5:27 AM, Jim Case wrote:
> Hi,
>
> New to this genealogy bug, I'm fortunate to have my line already traced
back
> to SC, Thomas "Tootie" or "Toody" Case, born mid-1700s. My 4th
cousin
> Vernon has graciously allowed me to leverage off of his previous work,
done
> largely before the internet came to be. However, the trail seems to go
cold
> at Tom Tootie. The thought is that he might be the son of William Case of
> NC, who was noted to have lived in CT as a young man. This William was
> supposed to have lived to age 109.
>
> However, these are just the best guess - no proof of anything beyond Tom
> Tootie living in SC in the late 1700s and his families (apparently two
wives
> and families) moving to southern MS circa 1795 - 1803.
>
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