Notes for Thomas John (or John) NICHOLLS
Told that he belonged to a Gypsy family which travelled with a fair in
his youg days.
At birth address: 4 Huntington Place, Plaistow Marsh. Reg. 4 Oct. 1859.
Verified by copy of Birth cert. 10/7/1999.
Shown as deceased on marriage cert of Sarah Ann to Arthur Smith on 4
January 1930! A death index exists for a Thomas J Nicholls, age 69, June 1929
4a/92.
Informed by Vera that he died 11/4/1929 aged 69 yrs, 6 months, 7 days (at
61 Shirley St., Tidal Basin, Silvertown - source death certificate).
His wife Mary Ann died 7 Jan 1929
DEATH: aged 69, 11/4/1929
BURIAL: grave 19063
1881 Census, CD ROM. FNL Film 1341409 PRO ref RG11 piece 1713 Folio 119
page 97. GMCRO, 56 Marshall St.,, New Cross, Manchester, M4 5FU, Date of
entry: Apr 1881.
1881 Census parish: West Ham
Dwelling: Vine Cottage, West Ham
1341409 RG11 1713 119 page 97
Head: Thomas NICHOLLS age 48 (b. calc 1833 Epping, Essex) , Occupation:
Wife: Susan age 46 (b. calc 1835 Stradbrook, Suffolk) , Occupation:
Sons: John age 21 (b. calc 1860 Canning Town, Essex) , Occupation: - this
person*****
Joseph age 13 (b. calc 1868 Canning Town, Essex) , Occupation:
Probably related to Samuel Nicholls (b. 1845/6 in Limehouse)
Suspect this family relates to other info about this person.
1891 British Census. 1355 ED 15,17 or 1360 ED 40. Family History Centre,
Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints, Altrincham Road,, Wythenshawe,,
Manchester, M22 4BJ, Date of entry: Apr 1891.
Vine Cottage, West Ham
Children of Mary Ann CASE and Thomas John (or John) NICHOLLS were as
follows:
+ 57 i Carrie7 NICHOLLS [32], born Est 1870/1920. She married Ernest
Or Ernie CURTIS [29].
58 ii Sarah Ann7 NICHOLLS [45], born <27 Jan 1895> in Canning Town;
died 8 Jun 1991; buried, 17 Jun 1991 in Eltham Crematorium. She married
on 4 Jan 1930 in St Matthias Church, Victoria & Royal Albert Docks, Canning
Town Arthur Albert SMITH [47], born 16 Sep 1898 in Bethnal Green; died 19
Jan 1975; buried in Eltham Crematorium, son of Thomas (Robert) SMITH [135]
and Mrs (SMITH) Smith [813] . Sarah & Nell or Ellen Elizabeth Taylor were
1st cousins. To G E Toth & to Vera J Taylor (Armstrong) Sarah was 1st cousin
once removed. BIOGRAPHY: Married Jan 1930, aged 34. Lived in Trinity St.,
then 61 Shirley St, WEST HAM and in Welling (nr Bexleyheath), Kent. Vera used
to reach Welling (to visit Sarah) by 96 Bus route from Woolwich. Welling
(DA16) is near Bostall Woods (south of Greenwich). Modern Welling is to the
west of Bexley Heath, near Danson Park. Looked after her parents, vowing not
to marry whilst her parents still alive. In later years suffered from senile
dementure and lived with Vera Joyce Armstrong, formerly Taylor in East Ham,
but still retained her home in Welling.. Birth registration not found in
search of 1896. Searched 1895 Visited by Gladys Gibbs in March 1972.
Informed that she died 27 Aug 1959? Searched death indexes for Sept & Dec
1959 not no record found for Sarah Smith or Nicholls! Try: died 8 June 1991
aged about 97. Funeral 17 Jun, Ashes spread 14 days later. City of London
Cemetery & Crematorium found no trace of Sarah Smith around these dates in
their records. Witnesses: Thomas Robert Smith & May L Smith. St Matthias was
a parish in Canning Town, West Ham. Verified by copy of Marriage Cert issued
4 January 1930: 10/7/1999.1891 British Census. 1319 ED 17. Family History
Centre, Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints, Altrincham Road,,
Wythenshawe,, Manchester, M22 4BJ, Date of entry: Apr 1891.
1891 Census search
Civil Parish: West Ham, Municipla Borough: West Ham, Municipal Ward: Canning
Town, Ecclesiastical Parish or District: St Lukes, Parliamentary Borough:
south West Ham for Shirley St.
Numbers of houses go up to 53 Shirley St., then a note entered "See page 63"
Page 63 not found!
+ 59 iii Clara7 NICHOLLS [46], born Est 22 March (1895 Or Later). She
married Jack THORPE [48].
60 iv Miss7 NICHOLLS [812]. Think she died aged abt 16
61 v Gladys7 NICHOLLS [1018]. Removals: Found 2 address's relating
to Canada in Sarah's notebook: Mrs G Gibbs, c/o Post Office, Pleasant Grove,
Prince Edward Island, Canada Mrs Gibbs, 645 Mountain View Drive, Cultus
Lake, B.C., Canada, VOX 1HO DEATH: Searched 1904-7 for death.
37. Minerva6 CASE [57] (Thomas5, Walter4, Henry3, Obia2, Peter1), born,
30 Jul 1866 in Plaistow, West Ham, Essex; died Est 1949 in Middlesex S. She
married Ernest Joseph CASE [81], died 1897/1918.
Notes for Minerva CASE
1881 Census persons living at same address 22 York St., were: page 01824
shows Elizabeth Case age 5 born Plaistow district, Essex; Census district
West Ham 1713 65 13 1341409. Caroline Case (mother), Hannah (aged 7),
Henrietta (10), Mary Ann (23 unmarried born Sth Shields, Durham - page 01825,
1713 64 12 1341409), Minerva (13) and Walter (8) both born Plaistow, Essex on
page 01825, 1713 65 13 1341409.
Searched Birth indexes for, 1866/8 & Mar 1889
Unmarried, had daughter, Hannah (apparently to Ernest Joseph CASE) in
1896 when Mini was 30. . Thought not to have married. Father of Hannah was
unknown until discovery in July 2000.
Sources for Minerva CASE
1881 British Census. 1713 64 12 1341409. Stockport Central Library,
Heritage Section, Wellington Road South, Stockport, Date of entry: 1881.
1881 Census Minerva shown as:
Age 13 daughter of Caroline Case, 22 York st., West Ham. Born Plaistow,
Essex. Bn. Calc 1867/68.
Notes for Ernest Joseph CASE
Occupations: Shown as deceased father whose occupation was Seaman on
marriage cert of Hanah Case & Maurice McDonald GROMarine death inex records
show an Ernest Case died while aboard HMS Crescent in 1904 (329) F404 and
again 1n 1906 (303) both records give age as 36???
Children of Minerva CASE and Ernest Joseph CASE were as follows:
+ 62 i Hannah7 CASE (II) [76], born Jun 1896 in West Ham County; died
1980/90 in Unknown. She married Morris John MCDONALD (Snr) [75].
39. Walter George Thomas6 CASE [74] (Thomas5, Walter4, Henry3, Obia2,
Peter1), born, 2 Jun 1871 in Plaistow, West Ham, Essex, England; died Abt
1950's in Welling?. He married on 3 Apr 1899 in West Ham county Florence
Susan (TROLLOPE) Case [123], born Jun 1876 in Canning Town, West Ham
County, daughter of Henry TROLLOPE [634] and Sarah Ann (TROLLOPE, MRS)
Trollope [997] .
Notes for Walter George Thomas CASE
Great Grand Uncle of Tracey Toth
1881 Census persons living at same address 22 York St., were:
page 01824 shows Elizabeth Case age 5 born Plaistow district, Essex;
Census district West Ham 1713 65 13 1341409 Caroline Case (mother), Hannah
(aged 7), Henrietta (10), Mary Ann (23 unmarried born Westoe, Sth Shields,
Durham - page 01825, 1713 64 12 1341409), Minerva (13) and Walter (8) both
born Plaistow, Essex on page 01825, 1713 65 13 1341409.
Appears to be the person shown as witness at Nell's (Ellen Taylor)
wedding on 2 August 1931. He would be Ellen's uncle.
Found a marriage for a Walter G T CASE June quarter of 1899 in West Ham
county 4a/219.
Informed that he lived at one time in Trinity St (probably No. 99), off
Vincent St & Forty Acre Lane, Canning Town E16. Walter & Flo lived downstairs
and Arthur Smith & Sarah lived upstairs until they fell out with Flo when
they moved to Welling in Kent. (Source Vera)
Vera has a Remembrance card for Walter.
Searched birth index for years: 1868/9 & 1871 to 1875. Calculated birth
from 1881 Census and 1891 Census as 1871-73. Suspected he lived at one time
in Welling, Kent. Searched 1868 to 1875. Try 1860-1867, 1876-1880.
Census record details are often incorrect or precise, they rely on the
veracity of both the informant and the enumerator.
Before 1875, It was not the responsibility of the individuals to report
the event (birth, marr or death) to the registrar who was paid commission by
the number of events discovered and recorded.
Removals: 1871 (June) 4 Francis St off Leytonstone Rd (A11) & Maryland
St, Plaistow, E15 Removals: 1876 (March) Brunel Street off Victoria Dock Road
& Silvertown Way. Removals: 1881 22 York St
Removals: 1899 50 Swanscombe St off Gunn Rd & Stanhope Rd (B2590),
Swanscombe, Kent
Sources for Walter George Thomas CASE
1881 British Census LDS. 1713/65/13/1341409. Family History Centre,
Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints, Altrincham Road,, Wythenshawe,,
Manchester, M22 4BJ, Date of entry: Apr 1881.
Head of household: Caroline Case
Census parish: West Ham
age shown: 8 Thus born about 1873!
Position in household: son
1891 British Census. film 91C20-1321 ED 22 & 1322 ED 24. Family History
Centre, Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints, Altrincham Road,,
Wythenshawe,, Manchester, M22 4BJ, Date of entry: Apr 1891.
West Ham, Essex
Canning Town
Vincent Street No. 61
Covered by two films RG12/1321 Enumeration district 22 & RG12/1322
Enumeration district 24
Head: Caroline Case aged 57 b. Phittlewell (changed since 1881 Census!)
Daughter Henrietta, 23, b. calc 1868
Son Walter, 19, a labourer b. 1872
Daughter Hannah 16, b. 1875
Where are the otherr children?
Other living at this address include John Alder & family
At No. 62 Vincent St., lived the White family (Thomas, Lucy & children) and
the Scotten family (Wiliam,Hy & Alice & children)
Walter was here not at 50 Swanscombe St on night of 1891 censys.
Notes for Florence Susan TROLLOPE
Birth year calculated from Marriage certificate.
99 Trinity St., Plaistow at time of marriage.
1891 British Census. 1321 ED 22 & 1322 ED 24. Family History Centre,
Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints, Altrincham Road,, Wythenshawe,,
Manchester, M22 4BJ, Date of entry: 1891.
99 Trinity Street, Plaistow, West Ham
1322/24
Head: Henry Trollope, 41, born Norfolk
Wife: Sarah A, 42, borm Gloucs
Henry Stephen, 20, Canning Town
Sarah Ann, 16, Canning Town
Florence Susan, 14, Canning Town
Walter Thomas, 11, Canning Town
Ada Eliza, 8, Canning Town
Alice, 7, Canning Town
Children of Walter George Thomas CASE and Florence Susan TROLLOPE were as
follows:
63 i Walter Henry Thomas7 CASE [126], born Jun 1900 in West Ham;
died 11 May 1922 in West Ham county; buried in East London cemetary.
Lived for 22/23 years. Suspected he lived in Welling, Kent Vera has
remembrance card for this Walter. He is first cousin two times removed to
Tracy Toth. Also he is first cousin once removed to George E Toth.GRO Index
Of Births. 4a/165. The Registrar General, General Register Office (ONS), P.O.
Box 2, SOUTHPORT, Merseyside, PR8 2JD, Date of entry: 21 Jul 1999.
Dob: ?
Birthplace: West Ham
Registered quarter/year: June 1900
Vol: 4a page: 165
41. Josephine Elizabeth6 CASE [16] (Thomas5, Walter4, Henry3, Obia2,
Peter1), born 26 Mar 1876 in Plaistow, West Ham; died,, 20 Jul 1960 in
156 Caulfield Rd., East Ham; buried 28 Jul 1960 in East London cemetery
(grave 41098). She married on 25 Dec 1896 in St Lukes, Victoria Docks, West
Ham county William TAYLOR [17], born Est 1869 in Barnsley, Yorks (so others
believe); died Mar 1920 R in West Ham County, son of Charles TAYLOR [156]
and Mrs (TAYLOR) Taylor [249] .
Notes for Josephine Elizabeth CASE
Biography: Born at 20 Brunel Street, Canning Town off Victoria Dock Rd
(see Lizzie's birth certificate). Lived at 22 York St., (1881 census), Later
lived at 61 Mary St., Canning Town in 1900/1901 (M A Taylor's birth Cert.),
By the outbreak of the second World War she was living in Vincent St., then
moved to Stratford, London until 1949 where she moved in with her daughter
(my Aunt) Lillian and Jim Graves at 156 Caulfield Road East Ham. My gran,
Lizzie, used to buy bacon bones, boil them and make bacon bone soup - a
mouth-watering aroma pervading the house, she also kept rabbits. Lizzie and
Hetty were very close. See Hetty for further information.
George Toth
Stockport
Cheshire
UK