My information shows that John Cary who married Elizabeth Herford was born
in April 1583. If his son John was married in 1613, that would put the elder
John at only 30 years old at the time.
My information also has the marriage date of John Cary and Elizabeth Herford
as May 29, 1609. Does anyone have other information on their marriage date?
Laura Noble
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From: Matawadave(a)aol.com <Matawadave(a)aol.com>
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Date: Friday, November 24, 2000 10:00 PM
Subject: [(Cary)] Re: [(Cary)] Re: [(Cary)] John of Plymouth
The parents of John Cary, the Plymouth Pilgrim, have yet to be
positively
identified. Most theories have been disproved. He was not the son of
John
Cary and Elizabeth Hereford. Their son John was married in 1613 (when the
Pilgrim was about 3 years old) and died in Hackney , Middlesex, England,
before 1665. Proof is found in the pedigree submitted by their grandson
John
Cary, the famous London and Virginia merchant, to the Earl Marshall
of
England which resulted in confirmation of his right to bear the arms of the
noble Carys of Devon (ref. College of Arms, Book of Grants IV) Copies of
those documents are filed in the British Library (Stowe MS 670, folio 229)
and in the Society of Genealogists Library, London.
John the Pilgrim was not the son of Elizabeth and William Cary who was
mayor of Bristol in 1621. That theory was proposed by Henry Grosvenor Cary
in his The Cary Family in America and is disproved by the Heralds College
pedigree of the Bristol Carys. The son of Elizabeth and William Cary was
the
John Cary who married Elizabeth Hereford (see above).
The theory that John the Pilgrim was the son of Walter Cary and Grace
Browne has not been disproved or proved positively. Walter died in 1633,
about the time the Pilgrim came to Plymouth after a dispute over his
father's
will. Grace left a will in 1668 naming her son John "if
living", which
indicates that he was estranged from her as the Pilgrim was from his
family.
David Carey in Albuquerque