Hi Richard.
I don't know if this helps, but it seems that the natural progression for
the folks that lived in the southern part of Virginia was to migrate to
North Carolina. Especially those who relied on the Blackwater and Nottoway
rivers for commerce. These two rivers flow into the Albemarle Sound of North
Carolina. If your descendants were in Halifax County in the early 1800, they
were more than likely benefactors of southern Virginia.
Jim Cary
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Jim thanks again. If James died 1796 in England that would be to early
for my James or John or William.
His sons of the same names were born between 1810 -1824 Around Halifax Co.
NC. I think..
Richard Cary MontalVO
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:48:17 -0700
From: "Jim Cary" <jim(a)seasideelectric.com>
Subject: [CARY] DNA
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I want to let everyone know that a DNA studies in ongoing at
http://www.careycary.org <
http://www.careycary.org/> currently there are
40
participants. However if you do have your DNA identified by another lab,
you
can input your YDNA to
http://www.ysearch.org <
http://www.ysearch.org/>
at
no charge. The more people that participate in DNA research, the easier it
will be to break through those brick walls.
Jim Cary
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thanks Jim I will inquire of Person County NC, that is a new one one.
Richard Cary MontalVO
In a message dated 10/1/2009 1:07:05 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:26:24 -0700
From: "Jim Cary" <generalmanager(a)econelec.com>
Subject: Re: [CARY] CARY Digest, Vol 4, Issue 42
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Hi Richard,
There is very little information about James Cary Sr. and much
information
about Jr. However James Cary Jr. died without issue in London England
1796.
His Father James Cary (AKA James Cary of Nottoway River) died about 1767,
although no known records have his exact date of death. I know he had two
sons: James and Edward. However I believe I have identified two others
through land transactions and church records: Nathaniel and Benjamin.
I believe I recall a William and John Cary that are associated with early
records of Person County North Carolina. Perhaps if you elaborate more on
these two, someone might have a lead.
Jim Cary
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Does anyone know the lineage of James Cary Jr? Did James jr have a
brother named John or William?
Did James Cary Sr. have a brother named John or William.
Thanks, Richard Cary MOntalVO
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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:04:37 -0700
From: "Jim Cary" <generalmanager(a)econelec.com>
Subject: Re: [CARY] ROLL CALL
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Hi Lucy.
I don't know if you can qualify this information as being a miracle,
but
the
James Cary you're referring to is James Cary of Nottoway River, as noted
in
the book by Fairfax Harrison called The Virginia Cary's
(1736 one James Cary patented lands on the Nottoway River, then in
Nansemond, describing himself as "of Isle of Wight" and in 1738 and 1740
adds to these lands (Va. Land Records, xvii 143, xviii, 50 and xix, 752)
In
1753 the Vestry of the upper parish of Nansemond established a chapel of
ease on the lands of James Cary "over Nottoway." (See parish register.)
In
1759 James Cary is paid for maintaining a ferry.)(This information is an
excerpt from the book by Fairfax Harrison)
Note: Francis Wills died on January 9, 1748, Isle of Wight County. His
will
was recorded December 14, 1749 and was witnessed by Robert Bygrave,
James
Cary and James Cary Jr.
Source: Wills and Administrations of Southampton County 1749-1800 by
Blanche
Adams Chapman.
18th February, 1757. James Cary, the elder, of Nansemond County in the
colony of Virginia. Granted to his son James Cary the yonger, of the
county
of Northampton, North Carolina. A tract of land containing 150 acres.
The
same tract purchased from Matthew Williams and recorded February,1745.
I have much more on this father and son and others of this family, but
it's
in bits and pieces. As you pointed out there are some burnt counties in
Virginia; Nansemond was one of them.
I would be very interested in exchanging information with you,
especially
the connection to the Wills Family. I did know that Emanuel Wills
married
Elizabeth Cary, however I did not know until now that Temperance Cary was
married to Francis Wills. That is to say that I didn't know that
Temperance
was a Cary. I also have a note about a John Wills marrying a Betsy Cary
in
1790.
Jim Cary
generalmanager(a)econelec.com
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From: cary-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:cary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
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Of Lucy Peterson
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 9:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [CARY] ROLL CALL
Thanks for the chance to do a roll call. I have 2 Cary lines. They
supposedly "meet" each other, but I am lacking positive proof at one
point
on each one.
I have Temperance Cary/Carey married to Francis Wills/Wells in the
Tidewater
area of Virginia. Their marriage is estimated about 1720. My line to
this
point is pretty solid. I have a researcher's record (from about 40 or 50
years ago)that says Temperance is the daughter of James Cary - which is
quite likely as he signs papers associated with her, as well as James
Cary,
Jr. who is thought to be her brother. The record I was given is very
specific with sources on the Wills line, but just adds this info as an
"aside" on the Cary line, so there are no sources for what he gives as
the
ancestry. (I have found the sources I mentioned for James.) The ancestry
given is that James is the son of Miles Cary, who is the son of Mylles
Cary
and Anne Taylor. I can make a case for James being Temperance's father,
but
I cannot yet make it for Miles being James' father.
On this same line, Francis Wills father is Miles Wills. Miles Wills is
the
son of Emmanuel Wills and Elizabeth Cary. Elizabeth is the daughter of
the
Mylles Cary and Anne Taylor listed above. The proof problem here is from
Francis to Miles Wills. I have been told that Miles' gravestone lists
the
names of his 2 sons. But I have no idea where that grave is nor how
recently
it was placed. I would like some sort of proof, although many pedigrees
give
this data. It is hard where there were so many records burned.
Now I will sit back and wait for the miracle of someone out there who
has
my
needed proof to reply to the list... :-)
Lucy
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:51:25 -0400
From: Robin Cary Askew <gename.robin(a)sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [CARY] Roll Call
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Hello,
My Cary line is as follows:
James Cary, 'Citizen & Salter' - merchant of Watling Street, London (d.
1694 in London);
m. 1. 1658: Elizabeth Stone (d. 1663) > one child only: Oswald Cary (see
below).
1. Oswald Cary (d. 1691 in Virginia); m. Ann Jackson > one daughter:
Ann Cary (b. abt. 1681); m. abt. 1698: James Smith (d. 1728 in
Virginia) > ten children.
m. 2. abt. 1664: Ann Dabson (b. abt. 1643, d. 1705) > seven children: 2
sons & 5 daughters:
1. James Cary (d.s.p. 1726), unmarried, in London.
2. Ann Cary (b. abt 1667); m. 1. 1686: Ralph (Randulpho) Mallory
(d.s.p. 1690 in London); m. 2.: John Mitchell > 5 children.
3. Elizabeth Cary (b. 1669, d. 1775); m. 1688: William Hampton,
Rector of Plumpton & Worth, Sussex (b. 1659, d. 1745) > 13 children.
4. Jane Cary (d. prob. bef. 1751), unmarried, in London.
5. Mary Cary (b. 1673); m. 1696: Thomas Stevens, of
Henley-upon-Thames (d. abt 1719) > 8 children.
6. Robert Cary (b. abt. 1675) (see below).
7. Edith Cary (d. aft. 1751); m. 1718: Thomas Curtis (d. bef. 1751).
Robert Cary, founder of merchant house of 'Robert Cary & Co.' of both
London and Virginia (b. abt. 1675, d. 1751 in London);
m. 1. 1719: Elizabeth Hele, of Hammersmith (d.s.p. bef. 1729);
m. 2. abt. 1729: Amy Gregg (b. abt 1700, d. 1769) > 2 children:
1. Robert Cary (b. abt. 1730) (see below).
2. Amy Cary (b. abt. 1739, d. 1756), unmarried, in London.
Robert Cary, merchant - partner of 'Robert Cary & Co.' (b. abt 1730, d.
1777 in London);
m. 1. 1756: Ann Smith (b. abt 1735) > two daughters:
1. Amy Ann Cary (b. 1758, d.s.p. 1831); m. 1782: Adam Askew, of
Redheugh - High Sheriff of Durham (d.s.p. 1844).
2. Mary Cary (b. 1759, d. 1832), unmarried, in London.
m. 2. abt. 1773: Lucy Susannah Yorke (d. bet. 1775-77) > one daughter:
Lucy Elizabeth Cary (b. abt. 1775) (see below):
3. Lucy Elizabeth Cary (b. abt. 1775, d. 1861); m. 1796: Thomas
Askew, Major in British Army (b. 1771, d. 1858, in Cheltenham,
Glos.) > 5 children.
Listers may be interested to visit the following site:
http://www.werelate.org/wiki/James_Cary_Descendants_and_Allied_Families
This site, which is still (and hopefully forever!) 'under construction',
follows the two lines of descent (American and English) from James Cary,
as shown above - but with much more detail. And it invites contributions
from any other researchers into either of these lines and their related
families. It is a 'wiki'-style site - so it is open to all who register
on it to make their own additions and/or modifications.
This, of course, has both its advantages in the facility for researchers
to contribute and share their findings in one freely accessible location
online; and its potential disadvantages in the same facility, whereby
previously 'accurate' information might be subsequently altered by a
misinformed contributor. However, the original or previous poster can
always 'argue' his or her case and put it back the way he or she had it
- always assuming he or she is still around to do so! I must admit to
being a little unsure as to whether the advantages outweigh this
potential disadvantage. But nonetheless, I do find myself continuing to
add my own contributions regardless - while keeping a close eye on it to
see how it goes - and hopefully 'grows'.
I would welcome any comments/opinions on this.
Regards,
Robin Cary Askew
Dee Ferris wrote:
Hi again!
Since we have a new list administrator, I thought the time was right
for
a new roll call. So won't you please send in your Cary connections,
requests, brickwalls?
I show my Edgar Nichols Cary b. 1884 Nelson Co., KY d. 1973 Nelson Co.,
KY as
son of
Franklin Pierce Cary b. 1854 to 1940 in KY and Elizabeth Romine
Franklin son of Ebenezer B. Cary 1812 KY to 1894 KY and Mariah Royalty
Ebenezer son of John E. Cary and Polly Hungate
John son of Ebenezer Palmer Cary and Margaret Black
Ebenezer P son of Moses Cary and Lucy Palmer
Moses son of Seth Cary and Mary Hibbard
I will provide more information at a later time. I am currently
checking my
sources for the information I have.
Kind regards,
Dee Ferris
List Administrator
DFerris1999(a)yahoo.com
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