Dave,
Thanks for your comments on the Cary pedigree page. You are correct that we
have corresponded on several occassions. One goal that I am anxious to complete
is to add notes to my web site that point out the glaring inconsistencies in the
documentation. I will get to it.
Another goal has been to look at the Hackney Parish Registers to verify the
asertions about that particular John Cary. I believe that they are available on
LDS microfilm, but I have not had the time to check them yet. Have you been
able to do that?
Can you tell me the sources of information about Walter Cary and Grace
Browne's son John? Was this from the "Devon Carys"? I would like to do
some
work on this eventually.
Right now I am sorting out the two John Carys who lived in Bristol, RI ca 1700
and who have been assumed by all the genealogists to be one person. One was
born in England and the other was the son of John Cary of Bridgewater. I wonder
if they were cousins? I would appreciate any help on that one.
Jay Cary
jay. cary(a)dartmouth.edu
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~jac/cmc/AT_TOC.HTM
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There are a couple of entries you may want to review. As you report,
[your number] #1024 John Cary and #1025 Elizabeth Hereford had a son Thomas.
As you may know, Thomas married Susanna Limbery and had a son John Cary (1
Feb 1644-1701) who became a famous London merchant, a Commissioner of the
Lieutenancy of the City of London, a Director of the English Company trading
with the East Indies, and author of the repressive trade laws that ruined the
Scotch-Irish stockmen and caused them to flee to the Virginia Colony. (Ref. Th
e Life and Writings of John Cary, a dissertation presented to the University
of Bristol for the degree of M.A by H. J. Lane, May 1932). He was also the
John Cary who, with his cousins Richard and John Cary of Bristol, petitioned
the Earl Marshall of England who then confirmed their right to bear the Arms
of the Cary nobility in 1699. (College of Arms, Book of Grants, IV)
His pedigree constructed and submitted to the College of Arms in 1700, is
catalogued as Stowe MSS Vol 670 folio 229-230).
That pedigree shows that the eldest son of John Cary and Elizabeth
Hereford was John Cary of Hackney in C0. Middlesex, who married, left issue,
and died there about the year 1656. Therefor, he could not have been #512
John Cary 1610-1681 as shown on your web site and on many other pedigrees of
John Cary "the Plymouth Pilgrim." #512 John Cary may have been Walter and
Grace Browne Cary's lost son John, but proof of his parentage and connection
to the Bristol Carys is unknown to me.
William Cary the son of # 16384 Robert Cary and Agnes Huddye appears in
the College of Heralds 1620 Visitation of Devon pedigree as Sir William Cary
of Cockington who inherited the Manor of Ladford, married twice, and died 17
Aug 1550 leaving two sons who both died without male heirs. He could not
have been #8192 William Cary the Mayor of Bristol. To quote Fairfax Harrison
in The Devon Carys, Vol I. p 167: "Notwithstanding that the Ladford line was
thus fully accounted for, an attempt has been made (The Cary Family in England
, Boston, 1906 [by Henry Grosvernor Cary]) to identify by mere assertion the
William Cary of Ladford was the William Cary who was Mayor of Bristol in
1546."
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