Dawn,
Since no one else has stepped up, I guess I will.
You may be correct in your assumption, but here are the facts from Richard
Carver's Revolutionary War Pension Application:
Richard Carver states his age at about 69 years of age (later says he has no
idea when he was born)
He states he substituted for James Carver who was drafted under Nathaniel
Tate in Bedford County, VA about 1780 (James Carver does not mention this
act in his pension app)
Marched from Bedford to Hillsboro, NC
Discharged after Gates defeat in 1780
In 1781 he volunteered in Washington County, VA for a period of 3 months
He states he was born in Albemarle County where he entered service
Moved to Bedford at the age of 12 [abt 1775
Moved to Spartanburg, SC abt 1792
Lived in Spartanburg about 20 years, then moved to Pendleton
A witness who was said to be Joseph Carver actually signed as James Carver,
I would guess the same James as he substituted for. James Carver was
drafted in 1780 and volunteered in 1781, which also is the same timeline as
Richard Carver.
James states he was born in Louisa County, VA in 1753, at time of pension
app he would have been 79 and enlistment about 27. Richard at 69 would be
born about 1763, at 12 in Bedford, 1775. James says he moved to Kentucky in
1792-93.
Here are the facts from Virginia records:
Archibald Carver was born abt 1720 some think in Stafford County, VA, I'll
go along with that until I find different. In 1749 he owned 400a in Louisa
County. Archibald and his wife sold 400a in Louisa, Aug 1752 to John Almand
on Negro Run. In 1755 Archibald still owned land in Louisa. In 1760 he
bought 200a on Pretty Creek from Edward Clarke, this land would later be
located in Albemarle County as we find in 1768 he is paying Tithables to
James Meriwether in Fredericksville Parish, Albemarle County, VA. Again in
1768 Archibald of Louisa sold 400a to Walter Brown on Negro Run, Louisa
County. Archibald died in 1771 [Source: "Albemarle County in Virginia:
Giving Some Account of what it was by Nature" Edgar Woods, Appendix 9, p.
396]
1771 would put James Carver at about 18 and Richard Carver at 8. James
Carver is found in the Albemarle County Road Order Books in 1806 and Sep
1832 in Kentucky.
Since Richard was in Bedford at the age of 12 that would put the date to
1775. He and James, as brothers, could allow for Richard to travel west
taking his brother to Bedford and go separate ways after the war.
What is this rambling trying to prove? It shows the likely-hood that these
are the children of Archibald Carver. It appears to me that the evidence is
just as strong for, as against. What is the evidence that he/they are not?
Who is the father of your Richard?
Regards,
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dawn Watson" <dncresearch(a)gmail.com>
To: <carver(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CARVER] CARVER Digest, Vol 7, Issue 8
The Richard Carver who served in the Revolutionary War, as described
in
the
quoted message, was enumerated in Spartanburg Dist., SC, in 1800 and
1810. He was mentioned in the deed records in that place from 1797 to
1817.
In 1810, he witnessed a deed *in Spartanburg District* between John Clark
and James Ridings. All of this coincides nicely with the
description Richard gives of his immigration from Virginia into South
Carolina. Notice that he makes no mention of returning to Virginia. Two
separate records place him in Spartanburg District in 1810. He therefore
cannot have been the Richard Carver who was enumerated in Albemarle Co.,
VA, in 1810.
I believe these two Richards have been confused by researchers. I'm not
sure who first started the confusion, but it has been widely repeated
across the Internet. Of the two, the most likely to have been a child of
Archibald Carver is the second, the one who was in Virginia in the early
1800s. "Our" Richard Carver most likely emigrated into SC with his family,
and I believe that that is where we will find his parents.
Sincerely,
Dawn Watson
Rabun Gap, GA
> >
> >A Richard Carver is on the 1810 Albemarle County census with a female,
> both
> >over 45.? He is in the middle of several Carvers on the census, either
> >by
> >alphabetical order or by residence I have no idea. According to Rev. War
> >papers for Richard Carver, he states he was born in Albemarle County,
> >Virginia, he lived in Bedford County at the age of 12, that he moved to
> >SC
> >in 1792 as did quite a few in this time period.
> >
> >I have Archibald Carver as the father, Archibald Carver is the only
> >Carver
> >old enough to be the father, I believe, and in Albemarle at this time.?
> >I
> >would be glad to discuss further and see what information you have.
> >
> >Might be best to take it offline no interest here it seems as this
> >thread
> is
> >old.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Steve
>
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