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Caroline, I have some information on John Thomas Carver (whose birthdate I have as 4
November 1833). I am descended from his son John Morgan Carver, born 5 August 1865,
supposedly at Cooper County, Missouri, although the family was in Kentucky about 1864 when
daughter Georgella B. was born, and at St. Clair County, Missouri, about 1869 when son
James T. was born.
The History of St. Clair County, MO (National Historical Company, 1883), p. 1167, has a
sketch of John Thomas with a few apparent errors. They list 16 children for the couple,
but the authors apparently split daughter Georgella into "George" and
"Ella", and made son Harry Silsky into "Harry" and "Sylva."
The authors must have known that the Carvers had only 14 children living as they claimed
that two of these children had died young. In reality, I believe, all of their children
were living, it's just that the authors "created" two children out of thin
air.
In support of this, I draw your attention to the 1880 Census for St. Clair County, page
374B, where the family is enumerated with 12 children. Daughter Ammasetta was born after
the census but before the 1883 book. Daughter Fannie Belle had married Robert Delozier
and was living next door. Your ancestor Alice Gertrude is there as is mine, John Morgan.
Georgella B. (who was transformed into George and Ella) is listed as is Harry Silsky
(Harry and Sylva in 1883).
Another daughter was born 9 September 1883, Cora Mabel, making fifteen children in all.
(A transcription of Cora's birth certificate is available online at the Missouri State
Archives website).
I can confirm your birthdate for Ammasetta, who was born in that part of Virginia which
would become Wayne County, West Virginia. Of her parents, I know only that they were born
in Virginia.
John Thomas's father and mother were Morgan and Harriet (Pierce) Carver. I am very
confused about them right now, as I have a lot of conflicting data about Morgan. I am
happy, however, to share what I have.
Thanks for the additional material you provided. I hope we can remain in contact as our
research progresses.