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Surnames: Carvalho & Constanca ( + Alexandre, dos Santos, Pereira, Taveira, de Sa,
Caetano, Barreira, Abendana, Barrera, Pereyra )
Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CAI.2ACIB/107
Message Board Post:
hi. im just posting to possibly help someone out.
i grew up with a Carvalho family when i was in Portugal. the city we lived in is
"Chaves" which is located in "Tras-os-montes" in northern Portugal.
the road we lived on was "Estrada de Outeiro Seco" or "Rua de Outeiro
Seco", but i think it's the first one (the name of the road has since changed but
if you tell anyone there that name they'll know what you're talking about). this
road led straight into Galicia, Spain and where we lived was so close to Spain you could
probably walk there.
I knew the man simply as Senhor Carvalho and his wife as Dona Constanca. they lived right
across the street from me while i was there. we associated with them until the last couple
of years for reasons i wont get into on a public forum but i was a kid and i especially
remember the man being nice to me. i havent see them in about 10 years.
they had one son who died while visiting them about 15 years ago more or less. he died one
night suddenly in the house in a way i wont get into and he had just had a daughter or son
in the USA. (my uncle just messaged me saying it was a daughter). i actually saw them meet
the daughter, for what i thought was the first time, with the mother from my house. i also
remember the night the son died and i heard the crying from the house. the year was around
1990, give or take a year or two.
they paid for the granddaughter's trips to visit them but then that stopped for
reasons once again i wont get into on a public forum. the reason i hint at things but wont
get into is because its personal but i want to throw just a pinch out there in case it
rings a bell with the right person/people.
they were having a building constructed in front of their house for the son to live in but
after he died they leased it to some people that made a bakery out of it.
i think they did live in the USA for a bit many years ago (70s ?). it would most likely
have been in or around Bridgeport, CT where i am from.
if youd like to see them they are in this picture taken while they stayed with us in
Fairfield, CT about 10 years ago.
http://thesentinel.fcpages.com/carvalho.JPG
i hope this helps someone. hopefully if needed you can somehow email me if you need/want
to since i filled my email in this form when posting this message.
i hope this helps somebody.
ps. Carvalho is not a horse. it means oak or oak tree. cavalo means horse. cavalheiro
means gentleman and cavaleiro means horseman and if you take the V from Carvalho it
means... on second thought i wont go there :-)
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btw- i figure i may as well ask for help on my family. these are the only names i have
right now but if anyone can give me any help tracing these families or any info whatsoever
id appreciate it. as far as i know the families are from Chaves, Portugal or surrounding
area but its possible they came from or have offshoots from/in other parts. im also
interested in any branches not directly related since they can lead to a common ancestor
who is a direct relation. hey i might be a carvalho too who knows. i'm convinced part
of my background is sephardic jewish.
also i am first generation born in the USA so most of my direct background would start in
Portugal, which i guess might make things easier. even if you think youre not related or
indirctly related but know of these families or anyone please give me any info, please.
these names are from parents and grandparents names (wish i had more) all grandparents now
deceased.
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Paternal side from grandfather:
i dont remember grandfather/mothers first names or what villages they may have come from
but lived in Chaves.
Alexandre dos Santos ( maybe seperate; Alexandre & Dos Santos ?)
Paternal side from grandmother:
Pereira ( may have been "Abendana" at one time. man, she even looked real
jewish. supposedly from the "lost" tribe of dan that the strong and hairy samson
is from. i "think" this tribe were also called canaanites and canaan is also
supposed to be where lebanon is today which is supposed to be part of where ancient
phoenecia was. see Barreira below )
they had two sons:
Jose Pereira Alexandre ( or maybe Jose Pereira Alexandre dos Santos ) married to a Augusta
and live in Porto, Portugal. they a son named Jose too. they are here:
http://thesentinel.fcpages.com/ze.gusta.JPG
Gustavo Alexandre dos Santos Pereira ( they messed up on the birth certificate and the
middle and last names got swapped ). He worked in the courthouse in Chaves at one time and
went to Angola, Africa in the army. in this picture the guy on the left with the guitar:
http://thesentinel.fcpages.com/angola.jpg
this is a cousin of mine from this side of the family. i never met her but i think he has
a son and lives in Lisbon:
http://thesentinel.fcpages.com/prima.JPG
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Maternal side from grandfather:
from a village named Macos near Chaves. they had a crapload of kids 20 or almost but some
died at birth or when little. 11 made it to adulthood 8 girls and 3 boys: Dora, Fernanda,
Odete, Natalia, Augusta, Maria, Zulmira, Silvia, Belmiro, Norberto and Jose.
Barreira ( Jose Barreira - i was told recently from a relative that we have Phoenician
ancestors from this side of the family who were merchants )
Maternal side from grandmother:
Taveira, Caetano ( Herminia Caetano Taveira - i don't know anything about Caetano and
whether or not its a family name or given name. Taveira is supposed to have possibly come
originally from Italy and is nobility from the "Casa Tavira". i do have
relatives that still lived in their castles or whatever they were with weapons and stuff
all over the place but i never got to know them )
here's a picture of some on this side of the family. my grandparents are the two on
the far right. she is holding their two first born Dora and Belmiro. the rest of them are
mostly related to me including the three kids (which weirdly are related to me from my
grandmother and grandfathers side). one of them i think is Eliseu(sp?), another is Dora de
Sa and the other i cant remember the name:
http://thesentinel.fcpages.com/familia.JPG
my contact:
mondodizzy(AT)yahoo.com
note: when emailing put @ in the place of (AT)
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hopefully from these i can get more names. thanks everyone for reading and a thousand
thanks for any information. i hope i have helped someone with the Carvalho information.
best wishes