I'm wondering if this depends on the date/time and maybe country of
origin too? Sorry I can't help.
Coral Anna
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Am I right in thinking or assuming that any legally adopted child is
automatically given the surname of his or her adoption parents?
Pete Cavill
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Am I right in thinking or assuming that any legally adopted child is automatically given
the surname of his or her adoption parents?
Pete Cavill
I wish I knew more about the British judicial system. There must be a counterpart to the
US Probate Court ... adoptions, wills, etc. If adopted, there should be a document lodged
in the courts officially making the child a part of the new family. I'm thinking that
by 1911 the sort of casual "guardianships" that I've had to wade through
would have been more regulated. One can always hope.
Kathleen
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In the US, at least at the time I was adopted, the probate court order
finalizing the adoption allows for the change of name. Back in that time
supposedly (and this was a State by State issue) the original birth
information was sealed. What no one seems to have noticed is that the
probate court order that changes the name of the child lists both the
original name and the new name. duh.
Kathleen
Thanks, Kathleen. This query refers to one of my aunts in the 1911 Census
for England, who was supposedly adopted at the time.
Pete Cavill
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Again, I can only speak for US "rules" but probably yes. If the case is sealed
they will still tell you the date and the post adoption information. (Here $10 will get
you a copy of the court order.) Also here there is sort of a time limitation after which
records become more open, the assumption being that the relevant parties are deceased. If
you are trying to search out the birth information on your aunt, you may not get it --
again, US rules being my point of reference.
I would inquire of the courts in the county where you presume the adoption took place.
Give them all the information you have and what you want to know and cross your fingers.
Frequently the response is send $15 dollars and a self-addressed stamped envelope and
we'll send you a microfilm copy. Can't hurt to try.
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Subject: [CARTWRIGHT] Adopted Children
I wish I knew more about the British judicial system. There must be a
counterpart to the US Probate Court ... adoptions, wills, etc. If adopted,
there should be a document lodged in the courts officially making the child
a part of the new family. I'm thinking that by 1911 the sort of casual
"guardianships" that I've had to wade through would have been more
regulated. One can always hope.
Kathleen
IF my Aunt had been legally adopted, I wonder if I'd be allowed to ask the
question to the relevant authority(s)?
Pete
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I'm wondering if this depends on the date/time and maybe country of origin
too? Sorry I can't help.
Coral Anna
Thanks, Coral; this was in 1911(Census) in England, and in my home town of
Enfield in North London.
Pete Cavill