I descend from Justinian Cartwright Jr. I have wondered also where the Carl came from in
Justinian Sr. I have never seen him referred to as anything but Jesse or Justinian.
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Today's Topics:
1. Kentucky Cartwrights (Lucy Perry)
2. Re: Just wondering................. (Eldon Davis)
3. Re: Kentucky Cartwrights (Mike C)
4. New York Cartwright's (Patrick Cartwright Jr)
5. Re: New York Cartwright's (KATHLEEN MURRAY)
6. Re: New York Cartwright's (Mike C)
7. Re: Just wondering................. (Edward.Hewitson(a)fluor.com)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:53:54 -0500
From: Lucy Perry <lucy(a)perrysfloors.com>
Subject: [CARTWRIGHT] Kentucky Cartwrights
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Dear Cousins,
Just thought I would put in a word for the Kentucky Cartwrights. I,
too, am a daughter of a Cartwright. My mother was Alice Cartwright and
her GG Grandfather was Justinian (Jesse) Carl Cartwright (b 2-22-1752
in Fairfax, VA), who led the original families who settled our part of
the country from Virginia. The last ancestor I have in this line is back
to Hugh Cartwright (b. abt 1485 in Ossington, Nottinghamshire, England).
Also, Mathew Cartwright (b. 23 Oct 1634 in Middelburg, Zeeland Province,
Netherlands -d.1689 in Mary's County, Maryland). Any of this sound
familiar to anyone?
Lucy Ladd Perry
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:24:12 -0700
From: Eldon Davis <eldcardav(a)comcast.net>
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Hello to all,
Isn't there any Cartwrights who lived in New England or NY in the
late 1790s to early 1800s?
I have a Sarah Cartwright b about 1794 who married a James Richmond I
think in NY in about 1816.
Thanks
Eldon
On Jun 22, 2009, at 6:38 AM, Mavis & Peter wrote:
Pete, I have details of my line of Cartwright back to 1771 (William
Cartwright), starting in north yorkshire and ending up in durham.
with the
exception of John who emigrated to Austraila all remained pretty
much local
to north east england. I can't trace any further back than 1771 as
there
are too many possible William Cartwrights in surrounding areas to
be certain
which is my ancestor.
Eddie
G'day Eddie, Perhaps the most frustrating thing about our
ancestors, is that
they usually only gave their kids one forename; and more often than
not,
after their own forename or other family forenames. The frustation is
increased if the surname is not unusual or uncommon. I got back so
far with
my Cavill line, and like you, wasn't sure who was the next
generation back;
again, one forename, and more John Cavills that you could poke a
stick at.
In the absence of any other records or known records, I made an
educated
guess; and until a "kin" Cavill proves otherwise, that's how my
Cavill line
stays.
Pete Cavill
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:22:55 -0500
From: "Mike C" <mcartwright1(a)cox.net>
Subject: Re: [CARTWRIGHT] Kentucky Cartwrights
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Hi Lucy
Yes it sounds familiar, I have been collecting it for a long time. I know he
was referred to as Jesse by his son James A in pension applications, but I
have always wondered where the Carl came from. I have never run across any
record that shows his name as Carl, he is always referred to as Justinian or
Jesse. And his birth in Fairfax, Va?, is that because Matthew son of Peter
was there in 1757?
Mike
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Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:53 PM
Subject: [CARTWRIGHT] Kentucky Cartwrights
Dear Cousins,
Just thought I would put in a word for the Kentucky Cartwrights. I,
too, am a daughter of a Cartwright. My mother was Alice Cartwright and
her GG Grandfather was Justinian (Jesse) Carl Cartwright (b 2-22-1752
in Fairfax, VA), who led the original families who settled our part of
the country from Virginia. The last ancestor I have in this line is back
to Hugh Cartwright (b. abt 1485 in Ossington, Nottinghamshire, England).
Also, Mathew Cartwright (b. 23 Oct 1634 in Middelburg, Zeeland Province,
Netherlands -d.1689 in Mary's County, Maryland). Any of this sound
familiar to anyone?
Lucy Ladd Perry
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:09:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: Patrick Cartwright Jr <patrick(a)patrickcartwrightjr.com>
Subject: [CARTWRIGHT] New York Cartwright's
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Hello Everyone:
First off my name is Patrick Richard Cartwright Jr I was born
7/18/1983, son of Patrick Richard Cartwright Sr and Jennie Mae
Richardson.
My grandfather was Ralph Cartwright he died when my father was
young, he commited suicide in Owego New York, and was married to
Lillian Lunn, they had my father, his brother Ralph (Hoss), and a
daughter Betty Cartwright.
I was told that my grandfather lived in Chicago at one point, his
mother was Mary Lantz.
My dad said he was always told that he hand an uncle in Colorado.
This is all the info that I have on my family on my father's side,
no one knows anything. I was hoping that someone might be able to
help me piece things together so that I can find some of my
family.
Thank you,
Patrick Cartwright Jr.
Barton, New York
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:01:50 -0600
From: "KATHLEEN MURRAY" <kcmurray_h2ocolor(a)msn.com>
Subject: Re: [CARTWRIGHT] New York Cartwright's
To: <patrick(a)patrickcartwrightjr.com>, <cartwright(a)rootsweb.com>
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Have you tried searching the 1930 census? It sounds as though your grandparents
generation might be represented there.
I'm a Cartwright and I'm in Colorado but the family is not from here.
Kathleen Cartwright Murray
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Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 8:09 PM
Subject: [CARTWRIGHT] New York Cartwright's
Hello Everyone:
First off my name is Patrick Richard Cartwright Jr I was born
7/18/1983, son of Patrick Richard Cartwright Sr and Jennie Mae
Richardson.
My grandfather was Ralph Cartwright he died when my father was
young, he commited suicide in Owego New York, and was married to
Lillian Lunn, they had my father, his brother Ralph (Hoss), and a
daughter Betty Cartwright.
I was told that my grandfather lived in Chicago at one point, his
mother was Mary Lantz.
My dad said he was always told that he hand an uncle in Colorado.
This is all the info that I have on my family on my father's side,
no one knows anything. I was hoping that someone might be able to
help me piece things together so that I can find some of my
family.
Thank you,
Patrick Cartwright Jr.
Barton, New York
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:03:45 -0500
From: "Mike C" <mcartwright1(a)cox.net>
Subject: Re: [CARTWRIGHT] New York Cartwright's
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Patrick
Congratulations on starting so young in searching your roots. You will find
most of us are old people, well, old in age, young at heart. I wish I had
started at your age, there are a whole lot of stories I missed out on
ignoring my family tree. I was 44 when I realized nobody knew who my gg
grandfather was for sure, so I set out to find him.
Here's what you do. Call your cousins and tell them what you are doing. Find
out what they know first.
Get on the site for the Mormon Church: has the 1880 census and submitted
info by members, you would be surprised,
you don't have to be a Mormon to find family there.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/searc...
Check this site;
http://genforum.genealogy.com/cartwright/
and this one
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cartwright/mb.ashx
so far the sites mentioned are FREE. Check to see if anyone has already
researched your family.
If you are starting your search a good source to have is census records.
HeritageQuest is offered free to many library members, check and see if your
NY library participates in
something like this. HeritageQuest does not have 1830-40 and 1850, but does
have all the other years.
1850 and after, US census records contain the names,age ,sex of everyone
living with the head of household, before that
just the name of head of household and general ages and sex of the children
and wives.
Sites that charge:
This site will cost you but it is very good source,
Ancestry.com
Has ALL census records and lots of other things as well, it is about as
complete a research site there is, they may be offering a weeks free
membership to try
it out.
Footnote.com Rev War Records and other interesting stuff, but no census
records. Also offer a 7 day trial.
Godfrey.com old 19th century newspapers, and more news papers but you have
to pay. No census records per se. Lots of links to free sites.
Paper of Record-also newspapers
Newspaper Archives-also newspapers and can be accessed thru Godfrey for a
price.
There are other pay for information sites, but I have not used them.
Mike
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Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:09 PM
Subject: [CARTWRIGHT] New York Cartwright's
Hello Everyone:
First off my name is Patrick Richard Cartwright Jr I was born
7/18/1983, son of Patrick Richard Cartwright Sr and Jennie Mae
Richardson.
My grandfather was Ralph Cartwright he died when my father was
young, he commited suicide in Owego New York, and was married to
Lillian Lunn, they had my father, his brother Ralph (Hoss), and a
daughter Betty Cartwright.
I was told that my grandfather lived in Chicago at one point, his
mother was Mary Lantz.
My dad said he was always told that he hand an uncle in Colorado.
This is all the info that I have on my family on my father's side,
no one knows anything. I was hoping that someone might be able to
help me piece things together so that I can find some of my
family.
Thank you,
Patrick Cartwright Jr.
Barton, New York
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:37:27 +0100
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Hi frances,
Here is my direct line which i have:
1. Mary Ann Cartwright (1888-1947) b.Leyburn, North Yorkshire, England.
2. Francis Cartwright (1854-1934) b.Brompton, North Yorkshire, England. -
married Mary Ann Nelson
3. Francis Cartwright (1808-1857) b.Thornton-le-Beans, North Yorkshire,
England. - married Isabella Hood
4. William Cartwright (c1771-c1837) b. 'unknown birthplace' - married
Hannah Metcalfe
have found William Cartwright in the Bishops (Durham) Transcripts, in and
around village of Thornton-le-Beans, North Otterington, North Yorks.
between 1800 and his marriage in 1806, however no trace of him before
1800. there was a lot of migration with farming communities in england
and he could have came to the area from any number of places within a 300
mile radius, with a name like William Cartwright it is almost impossible
to find him, plus records are not 100% accurate or complete so may miss
him out of the selection anyway.
Cheers Eddie.
mooref(a)kinex.net
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Hi Eddie,
My name is Frances Cartwright Moore and my dad was Walter Cartwright, Sr.
His dad was James Edward Cartwright from around Camden or Pascotank
outside of Elizabeth City, N.C. I am just beginning and wondering if you
have any information on my granddaddy or connection to any of your family.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Frances
Pete,
I have details of my line of Cartwright back to 1771 (William
Cartwright),
starting in north yorkshire and ending up in durham. with the
exception
of
John who emigrated to Austraila all remained pretty much local to
north
east england.
I can't trace any further back than 1771 as there are too many possible
William Cartwrights in surrounding area's to be certain which is my
ancestor.
Eddie
"Mavis & Peter" <ozcavill1(a)bigpond.com>
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Hello Pete, I have relatives named cartwright one of which emigrated to
Australia from UK. Completley unrelated, but you never know. Here's
his
details:
Cheers Eddie
G'day Eddie, I read all of your message and must say that it was very
informative and detailed. I had to grin when I saw that place called
"Deaf
Hill":-) I've no way on knowing if any of my line Cartwrights emigrated
to
the Oz or any other country, but it'd be interesting to find out or be
told
by a distant "kin" Cartwright.
Pete Cavill
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