I found this in Springfield, IL last summer. It seems according to
this obit he would have been born in 1766 not 1776. What do you
think? Could he have been a son of Thomas from a first marriage. I am
having trouble with Andrew being son of Thomas and Mary Warwick. Let me
hear from you. Josephine Spatz
Josephine,
I need to add my two cents about Andrew Cartmill.
Earliene and I had determined on our own that Andrew would have been born
closer to 1770. I don't remember where the 1776 even came from. But from tax
lists, deeds, etc. we had closer to the 1770 birthdate. Which would still
make him around 30 when the first child was born. There may be a possiblity
that he was married before he married Nancy Brown. We DO have some
unaccounted for Cartmills still on the loose. But that is only a suggestion.
As with Earliene's John Cartmill married to Rebecca Hendrix, we KNEW that
there was an earlier wife and right now the only proof we have is I believe,
an estate settlement, that names Sally Brown as the wife of John Cartmill. We
are short a few marriage licenses, for sure.
If you have doubts about Andrew being the son of Thomas and Mary Warwick
Cartmill, all you have to do is look at Andrew's son, William Worric
(spelling) Cartmill. Mary was a daughter of William Warwick. Remember in
those days they were "hooked on phonics". They spelled exactly as it sounded.
Warrick, Worric, Worrick. All of these are Warwick. While in England a few
years ago I was soundly corrected when I said, "We're going to War-Wick
Castle." It is pronounced Warrick. I learned my lesson quickly.
We have been in a turmoil for the last 3 years with our branch of the
Cartmill family. Either they couldn't write or they made sure they burned all
their bridges behind them. No paper trails. Very frustrating, but I suppose
if it were easy, I would lose interest.
We still feel that Thomas and Mary Warwick Cartmill were born about 1750,
give or take a few years. Mary is listed in the household of Thomas and Patsy
Cartmill in, I believe, 1830. She is between 80 and 90 years old. So that
would fit. Then the next generation back gets very, very cloudy. I personally
THINK, that Thomas is a son of John Cartmill, who got the 1745 Land Patent on
the Cowpasture River in what is now Bath County, VA. But don't ask me for
proof. I have none. And I also think that this 1745 Patent John and the first
Henry of Botetourt were brothers. But again only circumstantial evidence.
I would like to know why you are not convinced about Andrew being the son of
Thomas and Mary. I'm open for any suggestions and would appreciate any help
you could give me.
Paula Berry Hampton