Kathleen,
You don't know me but I just have to ask you an odd question. Do you have relatives
that either still live or lived in Redding, Calif? I had a friend when I lived in Redding
by your same name....
Barbara
Virginia
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From: M. Kathleen Felsted <mkfelsted(a)gmail.com>
To: kyhardin(a)rootsweb.com; CARTER-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [CARTER] [KYHARDIN] KYHARDIN Digest, Vol 6, Issue 10
Hi Carol,
I think I found the marriage record of your Martha Carter to J. H. Peters -
see below:
(I am not sure why they sometimes have two separate records of the marriages
at FS, but maybe one is the license and one is the actual record)
Kentucky Marriages, 1785-1979 - FS Indexing Project
groom's name:J.H. Peters
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name:*Martha Carter *
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date:05 Feb 1889
marriage place:Larue, Kentucky
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number:I08920-0
system origin:Kentucky-EASy
source film number:409559
reference number:p 234
groom's name:J. H. Peters
groom's birth date:1868
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:21
bride's name:*Martha Carter *
bride's birth date:1871
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:18
marriage date:04 Feb 1889
marriage place:Hodgenville, Larue, Kentucky
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number:M01164-5
system origin:Kentucky-EASy
source film number:409570
reference number:p505
This Martha was born 1871. If related to my Samuel, she must be a
grand-daughter.
This appears to be her in the 1880 census:
*1880* Census of Hodgensville, Larue, Kentucky
Carter Thomas WhiteMale43abt 1837 Self (Head)MarriedKentucky Kentucky
Kentucky
Carter Ellen WhiteFemale40abt 1840 WifeMarriedKentucky Kentucky Kentucky
Carter Mary Frances Female18abt 1862 Dau (Daughter)SingleKentucky Kentucky
Kentucky
Carter James WhiteMale16abt 1864 SonSingleKentucky Kentucky Kentucky
Carter Thomas WhiteMale14abt 1866 SonSingleKentucky Kentucky Kentucky
Carter Lizzie WhiteFemale12abt 1868 Dau (Daughter)SingleKentucky Kentucky
Kentucky
*Carter Martha* WhiteFemale10abt 1870 Dau (Daughter)SingleKentucky Kentucky
Kentucky
Carter Sallie WhiteFemale8abt 1872 Dau (Daughter)SingleKentucky Kentucky
Kentucky
Carter Malacki WhiteMale4abt 1876 SonSingleKentucky Kentucky Kentucky
Carter Lucinda WhiteFemale2abt 1878 Dau (Daughter)SingleKentucky Kentucky
Kentucky
Thomas' father *appears* to be a Joseph, with his two sons, living with his
mother and another sibling/relative, Louisiann Carter Hurt? This will have
to take a lot more research - but maybe I have given you a start?
*1850* Census of District 2, Hardin, Kentucky
208 Carter Joseph 30abt 1820 MaleKentucky
208 Carter George 13abt 1837 MaleKentucky
208 Carter Thomas 12abt 1838 MaleKentucky
208 Carter Mary 72abt 1778 FemaleVirginia
208 Carter Catharine 36abt 1814 FemaleVirginia
208 Hurt Louisiann 23abt 1827 FemaleKentucky
208 Hurt Phillip 9abt 1841 MaleKentucky
208 Hurt Lucy 3abt 1847 FemaleKentucky
208 Pasley William 14abt 1836 MaleKentucky
There is a Joseph Carter who married a Jane Dawson in 1837 in Hardin County,
KY...
Kathie
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Carol Anderson <drcarol42(a)gmail.com> wrote:
By chance, is there a Mattie Carter in this family?
My gguncle married a Mattie Carter sometime in the
1880's, I think, in either LaRue or Nelson/Hardin counties.
My ancestor's name was John H. Peters, a twin born to
Peter and Amelia Neville Peters.
Any info appreciated!
Carol Anderson
drcarol42(a)gmail.com
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> Hello Brown and Carter researchers in Kentucky...
>
> I am a direct line descendant of James and Mary Matchett Brown and Samuel
> and Susannah Carter, whose children, Joseph Brown and Susannah Carter,
> married in 1808 in Hardin County, Kentucky. These Brown and Carter lines
> have been a dead end for me and the countless genealogy cousins on these
> lines that have helped me with their knowledge of the families over the
> years.
>
> I was entering some information about my Brown and Carter families into
my
> tree on Ancestry the other night and discovered some old emails from
> genealogy cousins. Because of these emails, I decided to add Tabitha
> Carter, daughter of Samuel and Susannah Carter to my tree. I then read
> through my notes for Tabitha and read the following about one of her
sons:
>
>
> BIOGRAPHY:
>
>
> Azariah D. BROWN is one of the oldest residents of Indiana and at one
time
> the owner of over a thousand acres, 600 he gave to his children,
reserving
> 400 to which he has added 200. He is practically self-made, as he
received
> only $80 from his father's estate and has made everything he has by his
own
> unassisted efforts. He has given his children $4,300 each and has always
> been found liberal in aiding churches and worthy enterprises of all
kinds.
> *Mr.
> Brown was born December 10, 1809 near Rolling Ford (mkf= Fork?) River,
> Nelson County, Kentucky and is a son of Samuel and Tabitha CARTER Brown.
> Grandfather James Brown emigrated from Ireland to the US with his parents
> when a lad, settling on the Monongahela River, Pennsylvania where the
> father
> died. He was one of the pioneers of Nelson County, Kentucky where he
> cleared
> a farm. He participated in the war for independent and removed to Spencer
> County, Indiana in 1816 where he resided until his death in 1822 aged
about
> 90*. *He was a successful farmer and a great hunter and as fearless as
> skillful in his pursuit of Indian depredators. His wife survived him a
few
> years and also attained the advanced age of 90. They reared a family of 4
> sons and 5 daughters.* Our subject's father was a native of Kentucky and
> during the War of 1812 hired a substitute as he was unable to leave home.
> In
> 1815 he entered land in Spencer County, Indiana and in the spring of the
> following year moved upon his place, which comprised about 320 acres. His
> death occurred while in the prime of manhood in 1822. He left a widow and
9
> children: *Lydia, who became the wife of Silas Davis died in Missouri;
> Squire died in Iowa; Daniel F. passed away in Hamilton, Illinois; Friend
C.
> died in Parke County; Silas B. died in Spencer County; Eliza Hadley lives
> in
> Sangamon County, Illinois; Miles W. died in Kansas; Susan is the wife of
> Jackson Gorden; Azariah completes the family*. The father was a member of
> the Ancient Free & Accepted Masons. *Our subject's mother was born in
> Kentucky (NC? = mkf). Her father was a native of Wales and served in the
> War
> of the Revolution, his death occurring in Kentucky.* Mrs. Brown after the
> death of her first husband married Christopher Kiger. Her death occurred
in
> Wabash Township, [Parke County, Indiana], of which she had been a
resident
> since 1824. Azariah D. Brown was reared in the usual manner of farmer
lads
> on his father's farm, having but meager educational privileges. At the
age
> of 18 he attended school for two winters in the old fashioned log
> schoolhouse of former days. After his father's death he made his home
with
> his brother-in-law, Mr. Davis until reaching his 17th birthday when he
> started in business for himself. Coming to this township in 1824, he
lived
> here for one summer, and in 1826 made a permanent settlement, working for
> $8
> a month and cleared land for the munificent sum of $6 an acre. In 1832 he
> entered 80 acres in Section 17, which he cleared and improved. His
efforts
> were blessed with an abundant success and in the course of time he found
> himself possessed of 1000 acres of good land. Mr. Brown has been twice
> married. His first Maria COX, who was born in Indiana, was a daughter of
> Abner Cox, whose wife was a Miss Dietrich. He was native of the Keystone
> State a millwright by occupation and erected the first grist mill ever
put
> up at Armiesburg. He was one of the founders of the village which took
its
> name from the fact of its having been originally an Indian camp and later
> one occupied by Gen. Harrison's army. By his first marriage Mr. Brown had
a
> large family: Margaret, wife of John HIXON of Denver; Emily, widow of
James
> HAYTH of Missouri; Eliza, wife of G. H. BORDON; Silas, who served during
> the
> war; William and John, residents of Kansas; and Martha, wife of D.
Kimbell.
> The mother of these children died March 18, 1869 aged 53. She was a
> consistent member of the United Brethren Church. In 1872 Mr. Brown wedded
> Mrs. Olive, widow of Michael Plaster. She was born in this township
> February
> 2, 1830, being a daughter of John and Margaret GIVINS UNDERWOOD, native
of
> Pennsylvania and Virginia, respectively. The former came to this county
in
> 1827 and bought a farm which he improved. In 1833 he sold out and
purchased
> one in Fountain County, where he farmed and ran a saw mill until his
death
> in March 1845. He was politically a Whig, and was a member of the
Methodist
> Episcopal Church. His widow still survives. By her first marriage she had
3
> sons and 4 daughters. Two of the former served in the late war: James
> enlisted in 31st Indiana and died at Nashville, Tenn. The mother
afterward
> became the wife of William JOHNSON. Mrs. Brown had four children by her
> first marriage: Jane, wife of Alex Montgomery; John, deceased leaving two
> children: Charles of this state and Mary wife of Louis Shoemaker of Page
> County Iowa. Mr. and Mrs. Brown are worthy and honored citizens of this
> community, in which they have both dwelt for many years past. In his
> political belief Mr. Brown is a staunch ally of the Republican Party,
which
> he joined on its organization, prior to which he was a Whig. He was
opposed
> to slaver and has always been a devoted member of the United Brethren
> Church. - *Portrait & Biographical Record of Montgomery, Parke & Fountain
> Counties, Indiana: Chicago: Chapman Brothers, 1893, Page. 334*
>
>
> Now, we all know that this is "hearsay" evidence and sometimes things are
> not always 100% in these biographies. However, it is a good starting
> place...
>
>
> We know there were THREE James Brown's in the Nelson County area at the
> same
> time. James Brown, who married Sarah Stiegler (sp?), died in 1807.
James
> Brown, who was killed in the battle of Blue Licks, and our James Brown,
who
> bought Eli Gerrard's land on the Rolling Fork. The last evidence we have
> of
> him was a court case in 1822. He was NOT in an 1820 census that we have
> found.
>
> It appears to me that this bio answers a couple of questions that we have
> had:
>
> BROWN LINE
>
> 1. Did James and Mary Matchett Brown have a son named Samuel? (We
> suspected so because of tax records but did not have the proof before
> this.)
> YES
>
> 2. Was the Samuel Brown who married Tabitha Carter the same Samuel as we
> suspected was James Brown's son (and the same one directly under James in
> the tax records 1795, 1796, 1799)? YES
>
> 3. Where was James Brown born? PA/VA - probably what is now WVA or
where
> Fayette County, PA is now.
>
> 4. Where did James Brown die? We suspected he was buried with his wife
> and
> his tombstone is a large field stone that is lying flat on the ground on
> his
> former farm, where his wife and other relatives are buried. (Carolyn W.
> went to that cemetery and saw it and is the real expert on the Kentucky
> Brown family.) [ Brown and Thomas Cemetery, as transcribed by Edward
> Benningfield] We found no evidence of a probate for James Brown in Larue
> County, where he lived or Hardin or Nelson Counties. We now have a lead
> to
> look in Spencer County, Indiana and I will do that forthwith!
>
> 5. Tabitha and Samuel lived in Spencer County, Indiana until Samuel died
> in
> 1822. Tabitha remarried and moved to Parke County, Indiana. Some of her
> children married while still in Spencer County.... These children did:
> Lydia Brown, Silas Burke Brown. What about Daniel F. Brown? Is he the
> Daniel who married Margaret Grass/Gross?? According to the bio above,
> Daniel died in Hamilton County, Illinois. I have found most of Tabitha
and
> Samuel's other children.
>
> CARTER line
>
> Tabitha was born approximately 1776. Since I had not found her father,
> Samuel, in Nelson County, KY before 1800, I assumed she and her siblings
> were born in North Carolina, which is the prevalent thought about where
> Samuel Carter moved from. Does anyone know differently?
>
> If anyone has any further information that can help unravel this family
> further, please let share with us.
>
> PS - I am still looking for a direct BROWN male ancestor of James Brown
to
> do a DNA test - to see if we can connect this family to others in the
Brown
> DNA study. There are about 600 Brown males that have been tested so far.
> Some fall into families. Some do not. My grandmother, Mary Idaho Brown,
> was beginning of the Brown family for me. She was born in Kingston,
Idaho
> -
> northern Idaho.
>
> Kathie
>
>
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Nelson County, Kentucky and is a son of Samuel and Tabitha CARTER Brown.
> Grandfather James Brown emigrated from Ireland to the US with
his parents
> when a lad, settling on the Monongahela River, Pennsylvania where the
> father
> died. He was one of the pioneers of Nelson County, Kentucky where he
> cleared
> a farm. He participated in the war for independent and removed to Spencer
> County, Indiana in 1816 where he resided until his death in 1822 aged
about
> 90*. *He was a successful farmer and a great hunter and as fearless as
> skillful in his pursuit of Indian depredators. His wife survived him a
few
> years and also attained the advanced age of 90. They reared a family of 4
> sons and 5 daughters.* Our subject's father was a native of Kentucky and
> during the War of 1812 hired a substitute as he was unable to leave home.
> In
> 1815 he entered land in Spencer County, Indiana and in the spring of the
> following year moved upon his place, which comprised about 320 acres. His
> death occurred while in the prime of manhood in 1822. He left a widow and
9
> children: *Lydia, who became the wife of Silas Davis died in Missouri;
> Squire died in Iowa; Daniel F. passed away in Hamilton, Illinois; Friend
C.
> died in Parke County; Silas B. died in Spencer County; Eliza Hadley lives
> in
> Sangamon County, Illinois; Miles W. died in Kansas; Susan is the wife of
> Jackson Gorden; Azariah completes the family*. The father was a member of
> the Ancient Free & Accepted Masons. *Our subject's mother was born in
> Kentucky (NC? = mkf). Her father was a native of Wales and served in the
> War
> of the Revolution, his death occurring in Kentucky.* Mrs. Brown after the
> death of her first husband married Christopher Kiger. Her death occurred
in
> Wabash Township, [Parke County, Indiana], of which she had been a
resident
> since 1824. Azariah D. Brown was reared in the usual manner of farmer
lads
> on his father's farm, having but meager educational privileges. At the
age
> of 18 he attended school for two winters in the old fashioned log
> schoolhouse of former days. After his father's death he made his home
with
> his brother-in-law, Mr. Davis until reaching his 17th birthday when he
> started in business for himself. Coming to this township in 1824, he
lived
> here for one summer, and in 1826 made a permanent settlement, working for
> $8
> a month and cleared land for the munificent sum of $6 an acre. In 1832 he
> entered 80 acres in Section 17, which he cleared and improved. His
efforts
> were blessed with an abundant success and in the course of time he found
> himself possessed of 1000 acres of good land. Mr. Brown has been twice
> married. His first Maria COX, who was born in Indiana, was a daughter of
> Abner Cox, whose wife was a Miss Dietrich. He was native of the Keystone
> State a millwright by occupation and erected the first grist mill ever
put
> up at Armiesburg. He was one of the founders of the village which took
its
> name from the fact of its having been originally an Indian camp and later
> one occupied by Gen. Harrison's army. By his first marriage Mr. Brown had
a
> large family: Margaret, wife of John HIXON of Denver; Emily, widow of
James
> HAYTH of Missouri; Eliza, wife of G. H. BORDON; Silas, who served during
> the
> war; William and John, residents of Kansas; and Martha, wife of D.
Kimbell.
> The mother of these children died March 18, 1869 aged 53. She was a
> consistent member of the United Brethren Church. In 1872 Mr. Brown wedded
> Mrs. Olive, widow of Michael Plaster. She was born in this township
> February
> 2, 1830, being a daughter of John and Margaret GIVINS UNDERWOOD, native
of
> Pennsylvania and Virginia, respectively. The former came to this county
in
> 1827 and bought a farm which he improved. In 1833 he sold out and
purchased
> one in Fountain County, where he farmed and ran a saw mill until his
death
> in March 1845. He was politically a Whig, and was a member of the
Methodist
> Episcopal Church. His widow still survives. By her first marriage she had
3
> sons and 4 daughters. Two of the former served in the late war: James
> enlisted in 31st Indiana and died at Nashville, Tenn. The mother
afterward
> became the wife of William JOHNSON. Mrs. Brown had four children by her
> first marriage: Jane, wife of Alex Montgomery; John, deceased leaving two
> children: Charles of this state and Mary wife of Louis Shoemaker of Page
> County Iowa. Mr. and Mrs. Brown are worthy and honored citizens of this
> community, in which they have both dwelt for many years past. In his
> political belief Mr. Brown is a staunch ally of the Republican Party,
which
> he joined on its organization, prior to which he was a Whig. He was
opposed
> to slaver and has always been a devoted member of the United Brethren
> Church. - *Portrait & Biographical Record of Montgomery, Parke & Fountain
> Counties, Indiana: Chicago: Chapman Brothers, 1893, Page. 334*
>
>
> Now, we all know that this is "hearsay" evidence and sometimes things are
> not always 100% in these biographies. However, it is a good starting
> place...
>
>
> We know there were THREE James Brown's in the Nelson County area at the
> same
> time. James Brown, who married Sarah Stiegler (sp?), died in 1807.
James
> Brown, who was killed in the battle of Blue Licks, and our James Brown,
who
> bought Eli Gerrard's land on the Rolling Fork. The last evidence we have
> of
> him was a court case in 1822. He was NOT in an 1820 census that we have
> found.
>
> It appears to me that this bio answers a couple of questions that we have
> had:
>
> BROWN LINE
>
> 1. Did James and Mary Matchett Brown have a son named Samuel? (We
> suspected so because of tax records but did not have the proof before
> this.)
> YES
>
> 2. Was the Samuel Brown who married Tabitha Carter the same Samuel as we
> suspected was James Brown's son (and the same one directly under James in
> the tax records 1795, 1796, 1799)? YES
>
> 3. Where was James Brown born? PA/VA - probably what is now WVA or
where
> Fayette County, PA is now.
>
> 4. Where did James Brown die? We suspected he was buried with his wife
> and
> his tombstone is a large field stone that is lying flat on the ground on
> his
> former farm, where his wife and other relatives are buried. (Carolyn W.
> went to that cemetery and saw it and is the real expert on the Kentucky
> Brown family.) [ Brown and Thomas Cemetery, as transcribed by Edward
> Benningfield] We found no evidence of a probate for James Brown in Larue
> County, where he lived or Hardin or Nelson Counties. We now have a lead
> to
> look in Spencer County, Indiana and I will do that forthwith!
>
> 5. Tabitha and Samuel lived in Spencer County, Indiana until Samuel died
> in
> 1822. Tabitha remarried and moved to Parke County, Indiana. Some of her
> children married while still in Spencer County.... These children did:
> Lydia Brown, Silas Burke Brown. What about Daniel F. Brown? Is he the
> Daniel who married Margaret Grass/Gross?? According to the bio above,
> Daniel died in Hamilton County, Illinois. I have found most of Tabitha
and
> Samuel's other children.
>
> CARTER line
>
> Tabitha was born approximately 1776. Since I had not found her father,
> Samuel, in Nelson County, KY before 1800, I assumed she and her siblings
> were born in North Carolina, which is the prevalent thought about where
> Samuel Carter moved from. Does anyone know differently?
>
> If anyone has any further information that can help unravel this family
> further, please let share with us.
>
> PS - I am still looking for a direct BROWN male ancestor of James Brown
to
> do a DNA test - to see if we can connect this family to others in the
Brown
> DNA study. There are about 600 Brown males that have been tested so far.
> Some fall into families. Some do not. My grandmother, Mary Idaho Brown,
> was beginning of the Brown family for me. She was born in Kingston,
Idaho
> -
> northern Idaho.
>
> Kathie
>
>
> --
> M. Kathleen Felsted
> mkfelsted(a)gmail.com
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Spencer
> County, Indiana in 1816 where he resided until his death in 1822
aged
about
> 90*. *He was a successful farmer and a great hunter and as fearless as
> skillful in his pursuit of Indian depredators. His wife survived him a
few
> years and also attained the advanced age of 90. They reared a family of 4
> sons and 5 daughters.* Our subject's father was a native of Kentucky and
> during the War of 1812 hired a substitute as he was unable to leave home.
> In
> 1815 he entered land in Spencer County, Indiana and in the spring of the
> following year moved upon his place, which comprised about 320 acres. His
> death occurred while in the prime of manhood in 1822. He left a widow and
9
> children: *Lydia, who became the wife of Silas Davis died in Missouri;
> Squire died in Iowa; Daniel F. passed away in Hamilton, Illinois; Friend
C.
> died in Parke County; Silas B. died in Spencer County; Eliza Hadley lives
> in
> Sangamon County, Illinois; Miles W. died in Kansas; Susan is the wife of
> Jackson Gorden; Azariah completes the family*. The father was a member of
> the Ancient Free & Accepted Masons. *Our subject's mother was born in
> Kentucky (NC? = mkf). Her father was a native of Wales and served in the
> War
> of the Revolution, his death occurring in Kentucky.* Mrs. Brown after the
> death of her first husband married Christopher Kiger. Her death occurred
in
> Wabash Township, [Parke County, Indiana], of which she had been a
resident
> since 1824. Azariah D. Brown was reared in the usual manner of farmer
lads
> on his father's farm, having but meager educational privileges. At the
age
> of 18 he attended school for two winters in the old fashioned log
> schoolhouse of former days. After his father's death he made his home
with
> his brother-in-law, Mr. Davis until reaching his 17th birthday when he
> started in business for himself. Coming to this township in 1824, he
lived
> here for one summer, and in 1826 made a permanent settlement, working for
> $8
> a month and cleared land for the munificent sum of $6 an acre. In 1832 he
> entered 80 acres in Section 17, which he cleared and improved. His
efforts
> were blessed with an abundant success and in the course of time he found
> himself possessed of 1000 acres of good land. Mr. Brown has been twice
> married. His first Maria COX, who was born in Indiana, was a daughter of
> Abner Cox, whose wife was a Miss Dietrich. He was native of the Keystone
> State a millwright by occupation and erected the first grist mill ever
put
> up at Armiesburg. He was one of the founders of the village which took
its
> name from the fact of its having been originally an Indian camp and later
> one occupied by Gen. Harrison's army. By his first marriage Mr. Brown had
a
> large family: Margaret, wife of John HIXON of Denver; Emily, widow of
James
> HAYTH of Missouri; Eliza, wife of G. H. BORDON; Silas, who served during
> the
> war; William and John, residents of Kansas; and Martha, wife of D.
Kimbell.
> The mother of these children died March 18, 1869 aged 53. She was a
> consistent member of the United Brethren Church. In 1872 Mr. Brown wedded
> Mrs. Olive, widow of Michael Plaster. She was born in this township
> February
> 2, 1830, being a daughter of John and Margaret GIVINS UNDERWOOD, native
of
> Pennsylvania and Virginia, respectively. The former came to this county
in
> 1827 and bought a farm which he improved. In 1833 he sold out and
purchased
> one in Fountain County, where he farmed and ran a saw mill until his
death
> in March 1845. He was politically a Whig, and was a member of the
Methodist
> Episcopal Church. His widow still survives. By her first marriage she had
3
> sons and 4 daughters. Two of the former served in the late war: James
> enlisted in 31st Indiana and died at Nashville, Tenn. The mother
afterward
> became the wife of William JOHNSON. Mrs. Brown had four children by her
> first marriage: Jane, wife of Alex Montgomery; John, deceased leaving two
> children: Charles of this state and Mary wife of Louis Shoemaker of Page
> County Iowa. Mr. and Mrs. Brown are worthy and honored citizens of this
> community, in which they have both dwelt for many years past. In his
> political belief Mr. Brown is a staunch ally of the Republican Party,
which
> he joined on its organization, prior to which he was a Whig. He was
opposed
> to slaver and has always been a devoted member of the United Brethren
> Church. - *Portrait & Biographical Record of Montgomery, Parke & Fountain
> Counties, Indiana: Chicago: Chapman Brothers, 1893, Page. 334*
>
>
> Now, we all know that this is "hearsay" evidence and sometimes things are
> not always 100% in these biographies. However, it is a good starting
> place...
>
>
> We know there were THREE James Brown's in the Nelson County area at the
> same
> time. James Brown, who married Sarah Stiegler (sp?), died in 1807.
James
> Brown, who was killed in the battle of Blue Licks, and our James Brown,
who
> bought Eli Gerrard's land on the Rolling Fork. The last evidence we have
> of
> him was a court case in 1822. He was NOT in an 1820 census that we have
> found.
>
> It appears to me that this bio answers a couple of questions that we have
> had:
>
> BROWN LINE
>
> 1. Did James and Mary Matchett Brown have a son named Samuel? (We
> suspected so because of tax records but did not have the proof before
> this.)
> YES
>
> 2. Was the Samuel Brown who married Tabitha Carter the same Samuel as we
> suspected was James Brown's son (and the same one directly under James in
> the tax records 1795, 1796, 1799)? YES
>
> 3. Where was James Brown born? PA/VA - probably what is now WVA or
where
> Fayette County, PA is now.
>
> 4. Where did James Brown die? We suspected he was buried with his wife
> and
> his tombstone is a large field stone that is lying flat on the ground on
> his
> former farm, where his wife and other relatives are buried. (Carolyn W.
> went to that cemetery and saw it and is the real expert on the Kentucky
> Brown family.) [ Brown and Thomas Cemetery, as transcribed by Edward
> Benningfield] We found no evidence of a probate for James Brown in Larue
> County, where he lived or Hardin or Nelson Counties. We now have a lead
> to
> look in Spencer County, Indiana and I will do that forthwith!
>
> 5. Tabitha and Samuel lived in Spencer County, Indiana until Samuel died
> in
> 1822. Tabitha remarried and moved to Parke County, Indiana. Some of her
> children married while still in Spencer County.... These children did:
> Lydia Brown, Silas Burke Brown. What about Daniel F. Brown? Is he the
> Daniel who married Margaret Grass/Gross?? According to the bio above,
> Daniel died in Hamilton County, Illinois. I have found most of Tabitha
and
> Samuel's other children.
>
> CARTER line
>
> Tabitha was born approximately 1776. Since I had not found her father,
> Samuel, in Nelson County, KY before 1800, I assumed she and her siblings
> were born in North Carolina, which is the prevalent thought about where
> Samuel Carter moved from. Does anyone know differently?
>
> If anyone has any further information that can help unravel this family
> further, please let share with us.
>
> PS - I am still looking for a direct BROWN male ancestor of James Brown
to
> do a DNA test - to see if we can connect this family to others in the
Brown
> DNA study. There are about 600 Brown males that have been tested so far.
> Some fall into families. Some do not. My grandmother, Mary Idaho Brown,
> was beginning of the Brown family for me. She was born in Kingston,
Idaho
> -
> northern Idaho.
>
> Kathie
>
>
> --
> M. Kathleen Felsted
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Spencer County, Indiana and in the spring of the
> following year moved upon his place, which comprised about 320
acres. His
> death occurred while in the prime of manhood in 1822. He left a widow and
9
> children: *Lydia, who became the wife of Silas Davis died in Missouri;
> Squire died in Iowa; Daniel F. passed away in Hamilton, Illinois; Friend
C.
> died in Parke County; Silas B. died in Spencer County; Eliza Hadley lives
> in
> Sangamon County, Illinois; Miles W. died in Kansas; Susan is the wife of
> Jackson Gorden; Azariah completes the family*. The father was a member of
> the Ancient Free & Accepted Masons. *Our subject's mother was born in
> Kentucky (NC? = mkf). Her father was a native of Wales and served in the
> War
> of the Revolution, his death occurring in Kentucky.* Mrs. Brown after the
> death of her first husband married Christopher Kiger. Her death occurred
in
> Wabash Township, [Parke County, Indiana], of which she had been a
resident
> since 1824. Azariah D. Brown was reared in the usual manner of farmer
lads
> on his father's farm, having but meager educational privileges. At the
age
> of 18 he attended school for two winters in the old fashioned log
> schoolhouse of former days. After his father's death he made his home
with
> his brother-in-law, Mr. Davis until reaching his 17th birthday when he
> started in business for himself. Coming to this township in 1824, he
lived
> here for one summer, and in 1826 made a permanent settlement, working for
> $8
> a month and cleared land for the munificent sum of $6 an acre. In 1832 he
> entered 80 acres in Section 17, which he cleared and improved. His
efforts
> were blessed with an abundant success and in the course of time he found
> himself possessed of 1000 acres of good land. Mr. Brown has been twice
> married. His first Maria COX, who was born in Indiana, was a daughter of
> Abner Cox, whose wife was a Miss Dietrich. He was native of the Keystone
> State a millwright by occupation and erected the first grist mill ever
put
> up at Armiesburg. He was one of the founders of the village which took
its
> name from the fact of its having been originally an Indian camp and later
> one occupied by Gen. Harrison's army. By his first marriage Mr. Brown had
a
> large family: Margaret, wife of John HIXON of Denver; Emily, widow of
James
> HAYTH of Missouri; Eliza, wife of G. H. BORDON; Silas, who served during
> the
> war; William and John, residents of Kansas; and Martha, wife of D.
Kimbell.
> The mother of these children died March 18, 1869 aged 53. She was a
> consistent member of the United Brethren Church. In 1872 Mr. Brown wedded
> Mrs. Olive, widow of Michael Plaster. She was born in this township
> February
> 2, 1830, being a daughter of John and Margaret GIVINS UNDERWOOD, native
of
> Pennsylvania and Virginia, respectively. The former came to this county
in
> 1827 and bought a farm which he improved. In 1833 he sold out and
purchased
> one in Fountain County, where he farmed and ran a saw mill until his
death
> in March 1845. He was politically a Whig, and was a member of the
Methodist
> Episcopal Church. His widow still survives. By her first marriage she had
3
> sons and 4 daughters. Two of the former served in the late war: James
> enlisted in 31st Indiana and died at Nashville, Tenn. The mother
afterward
> became the wife of William JOHNSON. Mrs. Brown had four children by her
> first marriage: Jane, wife of Alex Montgomery; John, deceased leaving two
> children: Charles of this state and Mary wife of Louis Shoemaker of Page
> County Iowa. Mr. and Mrs. Brown are worthy and honored citizens of this
> community, in which they have both dwelt for many years past. In his
> political belief Mr. Brown is a staunch ally of the Republican Party,
which
> he joined on its organization, prior to which he was a Whig. He was
opposed
> to slaver and has always been a devoted member of the United Brethren
> Church. - *Portrait & Biographical Record of Montgomery, Parke & Fountain
> Counties, Indiana: Chicago: Chapman Brothers, 1893, Page. 334*
>
>
> Now, we all know that this is "hearsay" evidence and sometimes things are
> not always 100% in these biographies. However, it is a good starting
> place...
>
>
> We know there were THREE James Brown's in the Nelson County area at the
> same
> time. James Brown, who married Sarah Stiegler (sp?), died in 1807.
James
> Brown, who was killed in the battle of Blue Licks, and our James Brown,
who
> bought Eli Gerrard's land on the Rolling Fork. The last evidence we have
> of
> him was a court case in 1822. He was NOT in an 1820 census that we have
> found.
>
> It appears to me that this bio answers a couple of questions that we have
> had:
>
> BROWN LINE
>
> 1. Did James and Mary Matchett Brown have a son named Samuel? (We
> suspected so because of tax records but did not have the proof before
> this.)
> YES
>
> 2. Was the Samuel Brown who married Tabitha Carter the same Samuel as we
> suspected was James Brown's son (and the same one directly under James in
> the tax records 1795, 1796, 1799)? YES
>
> 3. Where was James Brown born? PA/VA - probably what is now WVA or
where
> Fayette County, PA is now.
>
> 4. Where did James Brown die? We suspected he was buried with his wife
> and
> his tombstone is a large field stone that is lying flat on the ground on
> his
> former farm, where his wife and other relatives are buried. (Carolyn W.
> went to that cemetery and saw it and is the real expert on the Kentucky
> Brown family.) [ Brown and Thomas Cemetery, as transcribed by Edward
> Benningfield] We found no evidence of a probate for James Brown in Larue
> County, where he lived or Hardin or Nelson Counties. We now have a lead
> to
> look in Spencer County, Indiana and I will do that forthwith!
>
> 5. Tabitha and Samuel lived in Spencer County, Indiana until Samuel died
> in
> 1822. Tabitha remarried and moved to Parke County, Indiana. Some of her
> children married while still in Spencer County.... These children did:
> Lydia Brown, Silas Burke Brown. What about Daniel F. Brown? Is he the
> Daniel who married Margaret Grass/Gross?? According to the bio above,
> Daniel died in Hamilton County, Illinois. I have found most of Tabitha
and
> Samuel's other children.
>
> CARTER line
>
> Tabitha was born approximately 1776. Since I had not found her father,
> Samuel, in Nelson County, KY before 1800, I assumed she and her siblings
> were born in North Carolina, which is the prevalent thought about where
> Samuel Carter moved from. Does anyone know differently?
>
> If anyone has any further information that can help unravel this family
> further, please let share with us.
>
> PS - I am still looking for a direct BROWN male ancestor of James Brown
to
> do a DNA test - to see if we can connect this family to others in the
Brown
> DNA study. There are about 600 Brown males that have been tested so far.
> Some fall into families. Some do not. My grandmother, Mary Idaho Brown,
> was beginning of the Brown family for me. She was born in Kingston,
Idaho
> -
> northern Idaho.
>
> Kathie
>
>
> --
> M. Kathleen Felsted
> mkfelsted(a)gmail.com
> <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
>
>
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