Hi Nancy,
I don't hear very good, and that is why I do so much e-mailing/writing
instead of phone calling.
I am a little confused though, because Holly is saying that your DNA tester
that was a relative/cousin(?maybe) does not match and is not even close to
the Wm.Carter/Mary Goodloe DNA. Are you sure the person that did the
testing is indeed a cousin or connected to your line?
I believe that we had found that there were other Carter lines, not a lot of
them but a couple of them, that were also in Middlesex Co. the same time our
Wm.Carter/Mary Goodloe were there. There were so many William Carters,
Josephs, Georges, etc. that we are all really having a struggle keeping them
straight. I really have not kept up with it all the past 2 years or so.
(I have been so busy babysitting grandbabies.) Even though many of us do
have DNA that match or is only off 1 marker which I still consider a match,
we still can't seem to get them all lined up perfectly. I am hoping after
the holidays that I can delve back in a little.
But at this point, I don't think I'm going to be much help for you yet.
If you have any questions that I might be able to answer though, I am more
than willing to try. I know how frustrating these 'Carters' can be ;~).
Thanks, Kathy Wells.
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From: carter-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:carter-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of NncyBllngs(a)aol.com
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 6:15 PM
To: carter-dna(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARTER-DNA] William Carter of Christ Parish, Middlesex Co., VA
Kathy,
Send me your telephone number and I will call you. I would love to
discuss this line. My Charles
Carter says that he was reared in Essex Co. He enlisted in Essex Co in
February 1777.
Henry Carter of Spotsyvania Co had a son names Charles.
With all the research that I have done we think that put him in
Spotsylvania or Essex. The lines
of the county changed several times.
Henry Carter's wife Elizabeth in her will names the following children
George, Ann, Molly, John, Henry, Eliza, Sally and Charles. This will is
dated
December 1780. I have a paper signed by John Carter taking his part of
the estate and moving to KY.
I would love to get this identified.
Nancy
In a message dated 11/18/2011 3:27:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,
rebeltrumpet(a)verizon.net writes:
Hi Kathryn & All,
Kathryn I know we have talked in the past, and I probably didn't ever
explained my notes to you in detail.
First let me explain, that Chip, kit #15223 and my husband kit #14789 (I
just do the research) have done a 67 marker test and they are only off by
2
markers. (I believe they were fast mutating markers). A close match, but
the connection could be off by several generations. I had already
concentrated on the Wm.Carter/Mary Goodloe line before doing the DNA,
because of the close connections the 2 lines had.
The reason I have placed (in my gedcom) Bailey as a POSSIBLE son of
Benjamin
(this is the reason I have a question mark next to Benjamin is I wasn't
sure) is because Bailey and Benjamin's son Churchill are very near each
other in some of the sources that I have found. But, Bailey is also close
in several sources to several Josephs, and Georges, etc. which are all of
the Wm. Carter/Mary Goodloe line. So, I had placed this statement as the
first thing you read under Bailey: "------We aren't sure how he lines up
in
the William Carter & Mary Goodloe line, but the descendant of Bailey's DNA
(my hubby's Carter cousin), is a perfect match (well very close anyway)
with
the descendant of William Carter's DNA (Chip Carter).
BUT, Chip and I have discussed this several times in the past. I do have
a
handwritten copy of Benjamin's will (I got a handwritten copy because many
times the transcribed copies are wrong). Unfortunately Benjamin does not
mention a son named Bailey. Now, was Bailey a possible middle name?? I
have not found any evidence for that yet. But, since I feel that Bailey
lined up somewhere in the Wm. Carter/Mary Goodloe line, I had to place him
somewhere on my Gedcom to get him into that lineage. Bailey could very
well descend from one of the other children of Wm.Carter/Mary
Goodloe/Penelope Pew line, such as Wm. Carter Jr m/Dorcus; or George
Carter m/Elizabeth; or Joseph Carter m/Catherine Ammon. Or any other
surviving male child of Wm Carter/Mary Goodloe/Penelope Pew. I have
checked as much probate as I could locate on all of these male children,
with no mention of a Bailey.
I can't seem to locate much on Wm. Carter Jr. that married Dorcus, though.
I did find mention of a probable daughter, Dorcus Carter married John
Coffey:
Name: Dorcas Carter
Marriage 1 (abt 1758) John Coffey b: ABT 1733 in Essex County, VA
Children
Meredith Coffey b: ABT 1765 in Albemarle County, VA
Thomas Coffey b: ABT 1775
Sally Coffey b: ABT 1777
Jenny Coffey b: ABT 1779
Would LOVE to have lots of discussion about possibilities on this line.
This has been a difficult puzzle to finish, for sure!!!!
Any help is appreciated!! Thanks, Kathy Wells.
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From: carter-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:carter-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Graehl
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:14 PM
To: Mike Terry; carter-dna(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARTER-DNA] William Carter of Christ Parish, Middlesex Co.,
VA
Dear Mike,
What do you think of the possibility that Bailey Carter is a son of this
same Benjamin? I think this idea came from Kathy Wells, whose husband is a
Bailey Carter descendant. I'm also a descendant of Bailey but through a
daughter, Jane, so there is no DNA from my line. All dates below are
approximate.
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Bailey Carter b. 1742 in Spotsylvania?, Virginia. He married Nancy ? about
1764 and they had (perhaps) 9 children:
Henry (b. 1765) lived in Barren County, Kentucky (Is kit 14789 from a
descendant?)
Frances "Frankey" (b. 1768 VA - d. 1860 in Floyd Co., Kentucky) married
Rowland/Royland Salmons in 1795; 8 children
John (b. 1768-1770 - d. bef 1837 in Floyd, VA) m. Frances "Fanny"
McCutcheon in 1795
Nancy (b. 1769 - d. aft 1850) m. William Stinnett in 1789; they moved to
Pope County, Arkansas
Phoebe (b. 1776) m. Samuel McCutcheon in 1796
Jane (b. 8 May 1791 - d. 14 Aug 1851 in Pope County, Arkansas) m. Archibald
Hubbard Napier on 26 May 1808 in Montgomery County, Virginia.
According to the 1810 census there were two more daughters and a son, all
born before 1794; Jane may have been the youngest of Bailey's children.
Regards,
Kathryn
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On Nov 17, 2011, at 10:32 AM, Mike Terry wrote:
Will of Benjamin Carter. Chester County, South Carolina Will Bk. A
pg.
30.
Dated: 8 May 1780.
Churchill Carter, son and John Terry, Execs. William Morris and George
Blessett --
Wits.
The John Terry above m (2) Priscilla Stokes is my 5th great grandfather
and
William Morris is his brother-in-law who had married Sarah Terry.
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