There is a persistent but incorrect story (that dates back to the 1940s or
earlier) saying that Jacob Carter, son of Moore Carter, both of
northeastern North Carolina, is the Jacob Carter of Colleton County, South
Carolina. That story can be shown to be false documentarily because Jacob
Carter, son of Moore Carter, died in Rockingham County, North Carolina, on
land he received from his father. Moore is usually linked with Thomas of
Isle of Wight. DNA further confirms the error in this persistent story.
Three of the individuals in group 3 under Haplogroup I have solid paper and
family story links back to the Jacob Carter of Colleton County, South
Carolina. (The others may too, I just am not familiar with those specific
lineages). The DNA shows that the two families were distinct families,
not related within genealogical (and probably not historical) time frames.
So I accept as fact that Jacob of Colleton County and Jacob of Rockingham
County were two different people who were coincidentally about the same age
and whose families both used some of the same names (George, Isaac, Jacob).
So far, the origins of Jacob Carter of Colleton County, South Carolina,
before he appears in the records in 1767 in South Carolina, are unknown.
I would also like to point out that the fact that, just because the LDS
church and
Ancestry.com both have records identifying Jacob Carter of
Colleton County as the son of Moore Carter does not make it true.
If I sound snippy, I apologize. I'm very tired of this same old story.
I'll admit, I fell for it when I first started studying my Carter lineage,
and a kind Carter researcher named John Stutesman (I think) corrected my
mistake for me.
Dale M Crawford
-----Original Message-----
From: carter-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:carter-dna-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Holly Carter Dunlap
Georgia
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:53 AM
To: carter-dna(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARTER-DNA] Thomas Carter of Isle of Wight County, Virginia
John,
If you are looking at a RootsWeb database that is showing your Carter line
("I1") going back to Thomas Carter of Isle of Wight County, Virginia
("R1b1") then the RootsWeb database that you are looking at is obviously
incorrect. An "I1" is not going to be from an "R1b1" unless you have
a
non-paternity event in your line.
205340 I1 13 22 14 10 13-14 11 14 11 12 11 28
189663 R1b1a2 13 24 14 11 11-14 12 12 10 13 13 29
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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:19:27 -0400
From: johnc311(a)windstream.net
To: carter-dna(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARTER-DNA] Thomas Carter of Isle of Wight County, Virginia
Helen:
I am from Jacob Carter/ Rockingham/Colleton through both paper trail and
DNA (I1a). We trace back from there to Thomas Carter of Isle of Wight
and beyond using Rootsweb. I have no evidence of the validity of the
Rootsweb trail.
I also have no info on Thomas's DNA.
The following info pertains to my direct line. I am Kit # 205340 and
currently shown in the "ungrouped" section.
Good luck !
Leon J. Carter, Jr. (John)
THE FOLLOWING NINE GENERATIONS UP TO STEPHEN K. CARTER, SR (1807) WERE
DETERMINED BY THE "ROOTSWEB'S WORLD CONNECT PROJECT CONNECTED WITH
ANCESTRY.COM. IT TIES TOGETHER BOTH
GROUPS BY THE PROPERTY RECORDS OF COLLETON COUNTY, SC.
THOMAS CARTER (1) BORN: ABT. 1545 MARRIED: JANE HYLL 1550
DIED: UNKNOWN
CHILDREN: JOHN CARTER (2) BORN: 1574
JOHN CARTER (2) (56) BORN: 1574 BRIDGE BENION OF WATFORD AND ALDENHAM
HERTFORDSHIRE, ENGLAND MARRIED: BRIDGET BENION 1580
DIED: 1630 IN NEWGATE ST., LONDON, ENGLAND
CHILDREN: WILLIAM CARTER (3) BORN: 1600 IN LONDON, ENGLAND
THOMAS CARTER 1610
JOHN CARTER 1613
GEORGE CARTER 1615
ROBERT CARTER 1617
ANNE CARTER 1618
ELIZABETH CARTER 1619
MARY CARTER 1621
SYLVESTER CARTER 1622
ISABEL CARTER 1624
WILLIAM CARTER (3) (55)BORN: 1600 IN LONDON, ENGLAND
DIED: 1655 IN ISLE OF WIGHT, VA MARRIED: ANN MATHIS 1610
CHILDREN: WILLIAM CARTER BORN: 1625
ROBERT CARTER 1627
THOMAS CARTER (4) 1630 IN ISLE OF WIGHT, VA
GEORGE CARTER 1631
THOMAS CARTER (4) (39) BORN: 1630 IN ISLE OF WIGHT, VA MARRIED ELEANOR
COOK 1635
DIED: 1669 IN ISLE OF WIGHT, VA
CHILDREN: THOMAS CARTER (5) BORN: 1652 IN ISLE OF WIGHT, VA
EDWARD CARTER 1654
WILLIAM CARTER 1655
JAMES CARTER 1658
THOMAS CARTER (5) (58) BORN: 1652 IN ISLE OF WIGHT, VA
DIED: 1710 IN ISLE OF WIGHT, VA
CHILDREN: GEORGE CARTER (6) BORN: 1674
EDWARD CARTER 1675
THOMAS CARTER 1676
JOSEPH CARTER 1678
MARTHA CARTER 1679
JOHN CARTER 1682
ALEXANDER CARTER 1687
MOORE CARTER 1688
GEORGE CARTER (6) (62) BORN: 1674 IN ISLE OF WIGHT, VA MARRIED: SARAH
NEVILLE
DIED: 1736 IN ROCKINGHAM, NC
CHILDREN: THOMAS CARTER BORN: 1700
JESSE CARTER 1701
ROBERT CARTER UNKNOWN
BENJAMIN CARTER 1712
GEORGE CARTER 1718
JACOB CARTER (7) 1718
JACOB CARTER (7) ((97) BORN: 1718 IN ROCKINGHAM CTY., NC MARRIED:
UNKNOWN 1725
DIED: 1815 IN COLLETON COUNTY, SC
CHILDREN: JESSE CARTER BORN: 1740
GEORGE CARTER 1742
JOHN CARTER (8) 1744
MARY CARTER 1746
DAVID CARTER 1750
JOHN CARTER (8) ( ) BORN: 1744 IN ROCKINGHAM COUNTY, SC MARRIED: UNKNOWN
CHILDREN: JOHN (JACK) CARTER BORN: 1765 ROCKINGHAM CTY., NC
PHILIP CARTER 1767 COLLETON CTY, SC
HENRY CARTER (9) 1770
SAMUEL CARTER 1774
NELLIE CARTER 1776
HENRY CARTER (9) ( ) BORN: 1770 IN COLLETON COUNTY, SC MARRIED: MARY
THOMPSON 1780
CHILDREN: ELI CARTER BORN: 1798
JOHN J. CARTER 1807
STEPHEN CARTER (10) 1808
WILSON CARTER 1813
DOCUMENTATION AND PHOTOGRAPHS HAVE VERIFIED THE FOLLOWING FAMILY HISTORY
OF OUR BRANCH OF THE CARTER FAMILY BACK TO THE EARLY 1800’S IN THE
LODGE, HAMPTON, AND VARNVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA AREAS.
OUR VERIFIED MALE ANCESTORS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
STEPHEN K. CARTER (10) (72) .BORN: 3/10/1808 DIED: 9/27/1880 MARRIED:
SUZANNAH CAREY
CHILDREN:PHILLIP G. CARTER BORN: 2/12/1826 DIED: 7/18/1882
ELI W. CARTER (11) 10/13/1829 3/2/1909
HENRY CARTER 8/23/1834 10/31/1917
JOSEPH P. CARTER 6/20/1839 10/8/1892
MARTHA CARTER 1840 1880
JOHN B. CARTER 1845 1897
SEABORN A. CARTER 1847 1880
POLLIE CARTER UNKNOWN 6/21/1917
ELI W. CARTER (11) (80) BORN: 10/13/1829 DIED: 3/2/1909 MARRIED: MARIE
PEEPLES
CHILDREN SELINDA CARTER BORN: 6/6/1858 DIED: 3/15/1934
BERRY CARTER 6/4/1861 12/4/1932
HENRY G. CARTER 5/5/1862 4/9/1949
CLEMMONS H. CARTER 7/26/1827 4/10/1885
LEROY JOHNSON CARTER (12) 4/7/1868 8/9/1943
WILLIE CARTER 7/16/1869 5/29/1951
IDA CARTER 8/6/1876 1/28/1918
PET CARTER UNKNOWN UNKNOWN
LIZZIE CARTER UNKNOWN UNKNOWN
LEROY JOHNSON CARTER (12) (75) BORN: 4/7/1868 DIED: 8/9/1943 MARRIED:
JOSEPHINE MATILDA TUTEN
CHILDREN:HEYWARD LEE CARTER (13) BORN: 10/25/1895 DIED: 2/26/1946
SIDNEY A. CARTER 9/4/1897 4/9/1950
DOUGLAS F. CARTER 6/5/1899 UNKNOWN
TILLETT B. CARTER 1907 1963
PAUL E. CARTER 1908 1965
JAMES G. CARTER 1909 1960
HEYWARD L. CARTER (13) (51) BORN: 10/25/1895 DIED:2/26/1946 MARRIED:
MILDRED MAHALEY DEMPSEY
CHILDREN: LEON JOHNSON CARTER(14) BORN: 10/31/1917 DIED: 11/4/1979
DOROTHY CARTER BOONE 8/2/1919
EVELYN CARTER PAGLIA 10/29/1922
LEON JOHNSON CARTER (14) (62) BORN: 10/31/1917 DIED: 11/4/1979 MARRIED:
RACHEL CHASTAIN
CHILDREN: LEON JOHNSON CARTER, JR. (15) BORN: 7/22/1940 DIED:
PEGGY BRENDA CARTER 7/24/1947 DIED:
LEON JOHNSON CARTER, JR. (15) BORN: 7/22/1940 DIED: MARRIED: PEGGY MURRAH
LYNDA BOBO
CHILDREN:GARY JOHNSON CARTER (16) BORN: 7/12/1962 DIED:
ANDREA GAYLE CARTER 10/20/1963 DIED:
GARY JOHNSON CARTER (16) BORN: 7/12/1962 DIED: MARRIED: MELISSA KIDD
CHILDREN: MEGAN ANN CARTER BORN: 5/20/1992 DIED:
GARRETT JOHNSON CARTER (17) 7/28/1994 DIED:
TAYLOR CHRISTINE CARTER 1/17/1997 DIED:
AS OF THIS WRITING, GARRETT JOHNSON CARTER WILL BE THE PERSON TO CARRY
ON THIS BRANCH OF THE CARTER NAME. SEVEN GENERATIONS ARE DOCUMENTED AND
VERIFIED. THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS AND WILL BE MODIFIED AND CHANGED AS
NECESSARY AS NEW INFORMATION IS DEVELOPED.
On 8/15/2011 8:19 PM, Holly Carter Dunlap Georgia wrote:
>
>
> Please forgive my bad memory, other than Helen and Nancy, is anyone else
here
from the Thomas Carter of Isle of Wight County, Virginia group?
>
>
>
> Carter Surname Y-DNA Project
>
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