I never heard what the A was for. His brother
John's middle initial was also A. Could be
Andrew, Alexander, Allison, or ???
--- Suzie Ball <suzietimball(a)att.net> wrote:
Do you know what the A is for in Robert A
Carson's name? I assume it is
either Andrew (after his grandfather) or
Allison (the maiden name of his
mother).
Suzie
-----Original Message-----
From: carson-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
[mailto:carson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of M. Hope
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:27 PM
To: carson(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARSON] Correctionn to brothers
Robert and John Carson ofHenry
Co. TN
I think Robert Carson was Robert A., not Robert
Return, as I said in my earlier message (I
plead
old age); his son was named Robert Return,
known
as Return and sometimes as R.R. I have been
told
that was a common name for boys born after
their
fathers returned from war.
--- "M. Hope" <thehopes(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi, Suzie. Robert Return Carson and youngest
> his
> brother John A., both of the 46th TN Inf.,
CSA,
> were prisoners of war in Camp Douglas, IL,
> where
> John died. They had been captured during the
> battle of Island No. 10 in the Mississippi
> River,
> across from New Madrid, MO and Hickman, TN,
in
> April 1862. John's father was not even
allowed
> to take his body back to TN. John was buried
> at
> the camp and now lies at the Confederate
> Memorial
> (or Confederate section of the Civil War
> Memorial?) in Chicago, where the bodies at
the
> camp were later moved.
>
> Robert was paroled and returned to Henry Co.,
> and
> after being widowed, married his wife's
sister,
> my husband's great-grandmother Margaret
Amanda
> (Harris) Hope, widow of Adam Hope, who was
also
> in the 46th and was killed at the Battle of
> Ezra
> Church, GA. (His body was never found.)
> Robert
> and Margaret moved their merged families to
> Texas
> some time after the war, and then settled in
> Benton Co. AR where they lived in or near the
> town of Rogers. I think Robert was in the
> apple
> (orchard?0 business. When Robert died, his
son
> accompanied his body back to Henry Co., so he
> could be buried in the family plot in Puryear
> next to his first wife. I have a little
more
> on
> his children, including photos, if you are
> interested.
>
> The family always said that they were related
> to
> Kit Carson, but it was Andrew's NC will that
> seemed to prove that. There is a story that
a
> living Carson in OK has an old letter someone
> in
> his family received from Kit's son, in NM, I
> think. I have not seen this letter but my
> source, who also lives in OK, has been quite
> reliable on other matters.
>
> Regards.
>
> --- Suzie Ball <suzietimball(a)att.net> wrote
>
> > No, I have not knowingly communicated with
a
> > male Carson from this line.
> >
> > Andrew Carson and Lindsey Carson were sons
of
> > William Carson. I have been
> > to Andrew's gravesite in Iredell Co NC
where
> he
> > died in 1841. By then his
> > son, Andrew Washington "Wash"(my line) had
> > moved to TN because Andrew put a
> > codicil on his will so that the slaves he
> > intended to give Wash would not be
> > separated from their families.
> >
> > Wash had several sons and I have seen a
copy
> of
> > a very sad letter he wrote
> > to the commander at Camp Chase begging to
see
> > his captured son. Another son
> > died in the camp. Wash had at least 5
sons,
> > and I have not spent any time
> > tracking them. I do know that Robert was
the
> > son in the prison camp and he
> > did survive, move back to Henry Co TN, and
> have
> > children.
> >
> > I am not sure if any of the other sons had
> > children. I think they all died
> > fairly young but still may have reached
> > adulthood and had children.
> >
> > I have never tracked Robert's line forward,
> but
> > I will try to do that. It
> > would be my best bet for a DNA sample from
my
> > known line.
> >
> > I have never done any research on Lindsey's
> > line. I do have the Carson,
> > Bent, Boggs book that addresses Kit
Carson's
> > lineage.
> >
> > Suzie Morris Ball
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: carson-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
> > [mailto:carson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
> > Behalf Of GKCARSON(a)aol.com
> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:37 PM
> > To: carson(a)rootsweb.com
> > Subject: Re: [CARSON] Carson lines in NC -
> > Rowan, Iredell, Orange,
> > Caswell,Guilford t...
> >
> > Suzie,
> > Have you communicated with any Carson male
> > descendants of Lindsey or Andrew
> >
> > or siblings during your research?
> >
> > As mentioned earlier, the quote from the
1935
> > book (see below) suggests my
> > David Carson is likely a son of a Robert,
who
> > in turn may be the cousin of
> > Lindsey's father William mentioned.
Various
> > circumstantial evidence
> > supports
> > this. And, my DNA matches the descendant
of
> > Andrew Carson who married
> > November
> > 1790 Washington TN to Elizabeth Hannah.
> Andrew
> > is mentioned in the book as
> >
> > a son of the cousin James and that he
> married
> > Elizabeth Cate rather than
> > Hannah. I (and some others) had thought
> > Andrew was a son of Moses since
> > Moses
> > was bondsman for the marriage and Andrew
> named
> > a son Moses Lemuel. Moses'
> > oldest son was listed as James. I guess
> this
> > needs more research. Andrew
> > could
> > be a son of either Moses or James.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > A Dorothy Renaud posting online:
> > I have a short paragraph from the book
> > "Genealogy of Five Allied Families"
> > by Calvin D. Cowles 1935. Does anyone know
> > where one might find a copy of
> > this
> > book? The paragraph reads;
> > "William CARSON (grandfather of Kit CARSON)
> and
> > his brother Moses CARSON
> > left Penn. in 1750, and settled in
> > Northwestern North Carolina, just over
> > the
> > mountains from Washington Co. Tenn. Also in
> > this group were three brothers,
> >
> > William, Robert and James CARSON. They were
> > cousins of the above William
> > and
> > Moses CARSON. The cousin James CARSON had a
> > neighboring land grant to
> > William
> > CARSON, grandfather to Kit CARSON. The
cousin
> > James CARSON had a son Andrew
> >
> > CARSON born 1765. He moved to Washington
Co.
> > Tenn, and married Nov 3, 1790
> > in
> > Washington Co Co. to Elizabeth Cates.
Andrew
> > and Elizabeth CARSON later
> > moved
> > to Cocke Co. Tenn. They had five sons and
> three
> > daughters, names unknown,
> > some of whom lived in Cocke Co. Tenn. and
> some
> > in Sevier Co. Tenn."
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 2/4/2008 9:13:52 A.M.
> > Central Standard Time,
> > suzietimball(a)att.net writes:
> >
> > Gary,
> > I am a female descendant of Andrew Carson
> > (brother of Lindsey Carson) of
> > Iredell County, so I cannot do a DNA test.
> My
> > line moved to Henry County
> > TN
> > around 1835. Andrew Washington Carson has
at
> > least one son who had
> > children. I am planning to visit the
county
> in
> > the next couple of months
> > for research. I will try to track a male
> line
> > forward.
> > One of my cousin's still owns the land that
> the
> > Carsons purchased, and
> > there
> > is a Carson Cemetery on it where my family
> > members continue to be buried.
> > Suzie Morris Ball
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: carson-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
> > [mailto:carson-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
> > Behalf Of GKCARSON(a)aol.com
> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 1:10 AM
> > To: carson(a)rootsweb.com
> > Subject: Re: [CARSON] Carson lines in NC -
> > Rowan, Iredell, Orange,
> > Caswell,Guilford t...
> >
> > I've corresponded with Josette. She has
> done
> > a great job, and her
> > findings
> >
> > have helped me a lot.
> >
> > I wish I could find another Carson male
> > descendant of the Rutherford,
> > Rowan,
> > Iredell, Orange or Caswell lines to do the
> DNA
> > test. It's been a huge
> > boost
> > in my research.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 2/3/2008 6:53:16 P.M.
> > Central Standard Time,
> > GeneLridge(a)aol.com writes:
> >
> > Sounds like we should have a connection
> > somewhere. The Jane Patterson
> > that
> > I mentioned, wife of Samuel Carson, was a
> > daughter of a William Patterson
> >
> > who
> > died in PA ca 1745. I don't have anything
> on
> > a Matthew Patterson, but I
> >
> > really haven't looked for anything on the
> > Pattersons as yet.
> >
> > I also have no clue on a David Carson. The
> > preeminent Carson researcher
> > of
> > my line is a Josette Maxwell. Have you
> > corresponded with her? The email
> > I
> > have for her is _maxwelljl(a)earthlink.net_
> > (mailto:maxwelljl@earthlink.net)
> >
> >
> > Gene
> >
> >
> >
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