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Author: JAYFCARSON
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Gary:
Greetings, nice to here from a possible distant cousin.
I have used the DNA site for several years now and looked up DNA explainations on other
sites.
YES, I intend to do the test sometime in the not to distant future. Over a couple of
years I wasn't sure if I wanted my DNA floating out there on public web sites. When I
decided to do it I lost my job, so as soon as my finacial situation turns around I will do
the test.
I could not tell from the names you through out what DNA group you believe you are part
of, what is the Kit# you match - Like Thomas b1940 is C-3.
Do you understand there are two very distinct CARSON surname DNA groups in existance,
Western Europeon (R1)and Nordic (I2) and the two DNA's have to go back 30,000 years to
tie togeher. For you or others do not know, this is the reason why:
R1 is decended from the original Celtic Tribes, the Carson surname comes from the tribe of
Mcpherson(sp)(not the tribe of Kerr like sometimes misquoted)
I2 is decended from the Nordic, as in Vikings, as in Scandinavia
Thomas Carson b1740 is I2 DNA according to the sample submitted - that's right to all
who read this if your related to Thomas your DNA is not Scotish it is Viking.
On the DNA web page the following kit # are Nordic = C3 C11 C12 C15 C21 C27 C33 all the
others are Scotch/Irish
So how are we decident from an Irishman with Viking DNA, after much research on Wikipeda
and other sites.....this is the story.
In 800 A.D. Vikings invaded Ulster, Ireland and the entire north coast east and west,
Scotland, Wales and England. They established major cities where some ruins remain today.
For unknown reason about 1040 the Vikings as a people abadoned all of these regions.
Over the 240 years of occupation some did interbred with native peoples. Obvisouly many
of these mixed individuals stayed in the native lands. As a result there is a smattering
of I2 DNA throughout Northern Scotland, Wales, England and the most concentrate out of
Ireland.
Now in the West vs. Far East, surnames did not first occure until 1086 A.D., the first
place they were recorded was in the English "Doomsday Book" established by the
King. So the surname Carson would have been taken or assigned after the Vikings DNA
already existed in the now, British Isles. Which is how you have two very different DNA
strains with the same surname from the same geographic region.
So, if the reader did not already know this welcome to the Viking Clan.....lol
Gary - another problem I run into that is frustrating, is how many Thomas Carson's
came here from Ireland. There may have been AT LEAST one other in Washington Co., the
about the same time as Thomas b1740. I also have found at least three other Thomas
Carson's in Lancaster County the same time or earlier. And a Thomas Gibson Carson
from 1710 from Ireland to the Carolina's; which is really strange because Thomas has a
grandson named Thomas Gibson Carson b1794 who is directly in my line.
Name repitations sometimes makes this stuff messy. I have a G Grandfather named Hiram
Porter, thought it was an unusally name. The PA census from the 1870 has 3 pages of Hiram
Porter's, ugh. lol
Anyone can feel free to contact me jayfcarson(a)gmail.com
Gary take care.
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