Hugh Carothers;
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James D. Rogers; Wiliam W. Kavanaugh; Thomas Powell; Hugh Carothers; (at
the bottom)
John Morison; William Adair . . . .
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "D&R" <dcran41266(a)comcast.net>
To: <cbarrfly(a)comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:52 PM
Source: LANGFORD(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [LANGFORD] 1809 benamin Langford census MAdison co AL.
That is a true story, many moved into Cherokee County NC and are still
there. They do a Play every summer called; " Unto these hills" which is
the
Cherokee side of the story of the removal. if you ever have the chance to
go
see it, DO. It will bring tears to your eyes & only then will you
understand
the other side of the story....
Rose C
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy" <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com>
To: <langford(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: 2009-03-30 09:14
Subject: Re: [LANGFORD] 1809 benamin Langford census MAdison co AL.
> Rose,
> Marion Co TN borders Jackson Co AL to the south,and Hamilton Co TN to
> the
> east,Franklin Co TN to the west,Warren Co TN to the north. Jackson Co AL
> is
> the next Co east of Madison Co AL. Jackson also borders the state of Ga
> to
> the east,and Dekalb Co AL to the south. My Choate,L-ford,and Seitz line
> went
> into the mountians of what is now Grundy/Sequatchie/Marion Co TN to
> excape
> the removal,and the area of Tracy city is where most of my Lankford went.
> Tracy City in on top of the south Cumberland Mountian Plateau. These
> people
> were called Hostiles because they didn't like what Uuncle Sam was doing
> to
> them along with Dragging Canoe. My distant cucn'z from that area told me
> that Tracy City was once a Indian Settlement with a chief named Shook who
> went on the removal to OK,but some of his family came back to that area.
> The
> people who wanted to go with him did,but most stayed hidden in the
> Mountian
> Coves/Hollows which,and Uncle Sams troops was afraid to go into them.
>
> Thought I would add a little info on why some of our people didn't go on
> the
> removal,and why. Remember the whites in that area was called Intruders
> including some of my Lankford's & Seitz who married into the
> Cherokee/Shawnee/Creek/Choctaw lines which all were in the area with
> Dragging Canoe when he broke away for the Cherokee nation.
>
> Roy.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D&R" <dcran41266(a)comcast.net>
> To: <langford(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [LANGFORD] 1809 benamin Langford census MAdison co AL.
>
>
>> If I recall History right the road from South and North Carolina gang to
>> Madison co TN crossed Indian lands.. Dangers Indian lands. there was
>> tribe
>> that lived at the base of lockout MT that was made up of so called
>> reject
>> from other tribes who wanted nothing more than a white mans scalp..
>> Andrew
>> Jackson went in 1813-15 and cleaned it out, about 1816-1817 the road
>> opened
>> up for travel. even crossing TN from Roane co to Jackson as settler you
>> travel with a military escort. .. Marion County is on the eastern border
>> near Miss and may have been a bit safer. Rock island TN was infested
>> with
>> part of that tribe from Lock out Mountain..With time that also settle
>> down..
>>
>> The Nashville- New Orleans road that Jackson military road- built
>> 1816-1822) went south through Columbus and cross into Al in the way
>> western
>> part. and then south of Marion county into Miss and on west.
>> Rose C
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Roy" <cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com>
>> To: <langford(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: 2009-03-29 20:52
>> Subject: Re: [LANGFORD] 1809 benamin Langford census MAdison co AL.
>>
>>
>>> Rose in my research I also saw a Thomas Lankford in Madison Co AL in
>>> 1810
>>> along with several names that is connected to my Lankford's. This
>>> Thomas
>>> may
>>> be my Thomas who was in Marion Co TN as of 1812, and in Warren Co TN as
>>> of
>>> 1820's,remember that Jackson Co AL covered part of Madison at one
>>> time,and
>>> Jackson Co AL borders Marion Co TN,and Warren Co Tn became a Co abt
>>> 1812/1815.
>>>
>>> Roy.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "D&R" <dcran41266(a)comcast.net>
>>> To: <langford(a)rootsweb.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 5:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [LANGFORD] 1809 benamin Langford census MAdison co AL.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have a hard time understanding this.
>>>> Benjamin's son Stephen was married In Madison co Al in 1809, In
the
>>>> 1809
>>>> records that I looked at CENSUS. they are the only two LANGFORD'S,
>>>> Benjamin
>>>> and his son in Madison County,
>>>> Several years later there were several lines of Langford's , but not
>>>> in
>>>> 1809.
>>>> That northern Area was Not really white people friendly territory in
>>>> 1809.
>>>> So when did you Langford's arrive in Madison Co.. AL?
>>>> This Benjamin nor his son Stephen appear again in Madison County,Al.
>>>> In fact on the 1812 tax list for Madison Co. Al there are NO
>>>> Langford's.
>>>> It appears they left before that time...
>>>>
>>>> Not that I have a vested interested in this , I was searching for some
>>>> else
>>>> at a later time, when I ran into this.. thinking it could be family of
>>>> Bob's
>>>> I sent it on to him.
>>>> There was another Benjamin Langford in Madison Co. Al about 1816-7 who
>>>> was
>>>> born in South Carolina.
>>>> Perhaps Is that the Benjamin you are claim as part your family?
>>>>
>>>> Rose C
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Who I was searching for.. never lived in Madison Co. Al however
>>>> they
>>>> had land grants issued out of the Huntsville's Land Office issued
in
>>>> Blount
>>>> County, AL
>>>> 1822
>>>>
>>>> Rose C
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gene Lankford" <genelankford(a)msn.com>
>>>> To: "Langford and Lankford Message Board"
<langford(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>> Sent: 2009-03-29 09:15
>>>> Subject: Re: [LANGFORD] 1809 benamin Langford census MAdison co AL.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know about "awash" with Langfords, but I do
know there were
>>>>> quite
>>>>> a few Lanfords--relatives of Stan Lanford, who is one of my DNA
>>>>> matches.
>>>>> (Some of them could be variously listed as "Langford" in
some
>>>>> sources.)
>>>>> These Lanfords migrated from Louisa Co., VA, to Madison Co., AL.
>>>>> Based
>>>>> on
>>>>> their match with me and on an apparent line of ancestry, they moved
>>>>> into
>>>>> Louisa Co. from Caroline Co., VA, around 1787.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's interesting that your family and mine seem to have crossed
paths
>>>>> in
>>>>> a
>>>>> few places (Rockcastle/Lincoln Counties, KY; Madison Co, AL; and
>>>>> possibly
>>>>> Pittsylvania Co., VA) and yet were not related but were from
>>>>> different
>>>>> L-ford lines. Maybe somewhere in the past they hooked up and
>>>>> thought,
>>>>> based on the name, that they were related. That certainly would
have
>>>>> been
>>>>> a reasonable, though uninformed, assumption--if indeed they knew
each
>>>>> other at all. It seems likely they did in Kentucky at least.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gene Lankford
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:24:50 -0400
>>>>>> From: whetstonebob(a)gmail.com
>>>>>> To: dcran41266(a)comcast.net; langford(a)rootsweb.com;
>>>>>> cchadwick(a)wi.rr.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [LANGFORD] 1809 benamin Langford census MAdison co
AL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whoop! Whoop! Whoop! Rose, you're a genius!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everybody and his hound dog has been looking for Benjamin
>>>>>> for the past 200 years and you're the one who found him!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This has to be my g.g.g. Grandpa Benjamin, who disappeared
>>>>>> from Rockcastle County, Ky in 1907, during the divorce
proceedings
>>>>>> from his crazy wife, Nancy. His son, Lick Creek Stephen, my g.g.
>>>>>> Grandpa, married Catherine Windham in Huntsville, Madison
County,
>>>>>> AL, on 1 August 1809. Stephen returned to Ky but no one knows
what
>>>>>> happened to Benjamin. (unless he backtracked to Harlan and sired
>>>>>> that Eastern Ky clan).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow! What a find Rose! Thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am very puzzled by the fact that Benjamin is the only Langford
>>>>>> listed,
>>>>>> because we know that area was awash with Langfords at that time.
>>>>>> Maybe someone else on line can shed some light on that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 7:10 PM, D&R
<dcran41266(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > 1809 Census of Madison County Alabama - Enumeration taken
Jan 1809
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Reubin Windham; Jiles Muckleroy; John Murphy; John Wood;
Jacob
>>>>>> > Broils;
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Levy Melvin; Leban Rice; Reubin Brock; Isaac Brock; Sturdy
Garner;
>>>>>> > William Burges; Richard Burges; Larkin Rogers; Charles
Gwinn;
>>>>>> > Joseph
>>>>>> > Cartwright; Lettleton Felps; Harman Kink; James Moore; James
>>>>>> > Pybes;
>>>>>> > Thomas Speaks; James Fitzgerrald;
>>>>>> > John Helm; Thomas Murphy; John Jones; Jacob Clemmons; Cullen
Earp;
>>>>>> > Francis Shaw; James Walker; Moses Poore; Issaiah Hamilton;
John
>>>>>> > Gatlin;
>>>>>> > Gavin Johnston; Francis Johnston; Isaac Criner; Joseph
Gormely;
>>>>>> > Nicholas Couch; George Baylis; James Levingston; Nathaniel
Davis;
>>>>>> > George
>>>>>> > Baylis; John Maloy; Samuel Davis; John R. Cook; Mary Morrow;
John
>>>>>> > Ridenor; Asahal Babb; James Babb; Aseph Wills; John Harles;
John
>>>>>> > Bayzone; George Bayzone; Live Hines;
>>>>>> > Absalem Colwel; John Carter; John Bunch; Ebenezar Byram;
Jacob
>>>>>> > Pense;
>>>>>> > William Tindall; James Braden; Hezekiah Baylis Jr.; Daniel
Baylis;
>>>>>> > Hezekiah Baylis Sr.; William Clark; James McGowen; John
Hester;
>>>>>> > John
>>>>>> > McCrimmons; John Christian; Jacob McCarty; James Black;
Mordacia
>>>>>> > Lammon;
>>>>>> > Daniel McFall; John Sprawl; Benjamin Franks; John Smith
Sr.;
>>>>>> > William
>>>>>> > Fields; Daniel Morris; George Broils; John Condron;
>>>>>> > John Lewis; Henry Forgusson; Bobert S. Qallient; John
Bason;
>>>>>> > William
>>>>>> > Brown; William Brown Jr.; Elijah Lawley; Hugh Malloy;
Varnel
>>>>>> > Magbee;
>>>>>> > Joseph Powell; William Barlett; Jacob Prewit; Jacob York;
James
>>>>>> > Mahan;
>>>>>> > James Dayton; John Grayson; Benjamin Wilson; James Wilson;
James
>>>>>> > Loller; David Harles; Thomas Jones; Reece Baylis; Robin
Hampton;
>>>>>> > John
>>>>>> > Waldrop; Enoch Berrry; Robert Davis; Robert Bushart;
Richart
>>>>>> > Crawson;
>>>>>> > Peter Anderson; Samuel Cannimore; David Lindsey; Banjamin
Busey;
>>>>>> > John
>>>>>> > Gillin; William Thompson; Jacob Baldwin; Abraham King;
Isaac
>>>>>> > Rogers;
>>>>>> > Adfred Massingale; Solomon Massingale; Cason Fulch; Reddin
Crisp;
>>>>>> > Henry
>>>>>> > Landers; Amos Elliott; James Walker; George Light; Jessey
Sullens;
>>>>>> > Levy
>>>>>> > Crow; John Allbright; John Hellums; Alden Bryam; Thomas O
Banian;
>>>>>> > Williams Neighbors; Edward Bradley; Andrew Sibley; Spencer
Ball;
>>>>>> > John
>>>>>> > Hews; Moses Seton; George Poe; James Criss; Anthony Street;
John
>>>>>> > Reynolds; James Shoemaker; Samuel Wilson;
>>>>>> > James Anderson; James Christian; Mathew Pendall; Thomas
Lindsey;
>>>>>> > Henry
>>>>>> > Moors; John Hatfield; Richard Mardis; Joesph Wofford; John
>>>>>> > Lillingsworth; Ebenezar Byram Jr.; John Derick; Reynold May;
James
>>>>>> > Drake; Edmond Clements; George Blackburn; Benjamin Langford;
John
>>>>>> > Couch
>>>>>> > Sr.; Thomas Couch; John Couch Jr.; John Allison; Waller
Mathews;
>>>>>> > Joseph
>>>>>> > Mathews; Archibald McDaniel; John Renneau; John Martin;
John
>>>>>> > Kerksey;
>>>>>> > Edward Webster; William Hallmark; John May; Samuel Aklin;
>>>>>> > James Cotton; Charles McCartney; Joseph Hews; Joseph Aklin;
Thomas
>>>>>> > McBroom; Michael Montgomery; George Sharp; Thomas Williams;
Hugh
>>>>>> > Rogers; George Dilworth; Reubin Simmons; Mathew Moore;
Thomas
>>>>>> > Mimms;
>>>>>> > James D. Rogers; Wiliam W. Kavanaugh; Thomas Powell; Hugh
>>>>>> > Carothers;
>>>>>> > John Morison; William Adair
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
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