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To: "Rosemary Lyle" <billlyle(a)mars.ark.com>
Subject: Fw: CARRUTHERS, CAUTHERS, Abbey Paisley
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:25:25 -0700
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From: Dora Smith <cl001(a)freenet.buffalo.edu>
To: SCT-RENFREW-L(a)rootsweb.com <SCT-RENFREW-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 11:25 AM
Subject: CARRUTHERS, CAUTHERS, Abbey Paisley
>I am looking for all information on Carruthers and Cauthers families who
>migrated from Abbey Paisley and possibly the other three Paisley parishes,
>Renfrew County, Scotland, in the 18th and early to mid 19th centuries, to
>Ireland, Canada, Pennsylvania and New York. They may be the same family.
>Certainly the descendants of the Cauthers in New York tell me their
>ancestor's name was Carruthers. There is a single Cauthers marriage record
>of 1844 for Abbey Paisley in the IGI. The Carruthers and Cauthers
>families interestingly followed identical routes of migration in Ireland
>at the same times, going through Antrim County (incl Belfast) to Donnegal
>and Fermanagh Counties. Cauthers is a corruption of Carruthers, so all
>three existing North American families of that name must have come
>originally from Scotland.
>
>The Andrew Cauthers whose ancestors have him coming from Paisley where he
>was named Carruthers, was according to the 1850 US census born before 1790
>in Ireland. But a James Cauthers married in Abbey Paisley in 1844
>according to an extracted local record in the IGI. Some of Andrew's
>family were named James, as was the family of Fermanagh County, and there
>may have been travel back and forth. Andrew Cauthers is supposed to have
>been a cop in NYC where the US census fails to verify thathe ever lived
>(he supposedly never lived on his upstate farm where the census found
>him), and to have been a cop in New York City, though if all info on the
>census is accurate he was atleast 45 when he got to the U.S. I am pretty
>sure that I was told that Andrew was something connected to the railway,
>maybe a ticket agent or some such thing, in Paisley.
>
>The families of James and Thomas Cauthers who went to Fermanagh County wre
>Church of England (ANglican or Episcopal). James and wife are buried in a
>"Church of Ireland" (England) graveyard and descendants o Thomas in Canada
>believe they were originally Church of England. Since they had to have
>come from Scotland at some point, I do not know WHY they were Church of
>England. I don't know their occupations, either. In Ontario they were
>farmers, and became Presbyterian, and my direct ancestor b abt 1802
>allegedlyin Belfast, was a blacksmith. He married in a Presbyterian church
>where an Anglican congregation was also temporarily worshipping, so I do
>not know which was his denomination. Their children were baptized in a
>variety of churches.
>
>I know specifically of James, Andrew and Thomas "Cauthers" all born
>closely together enough in time to possibly have been brothers, and my
>Samuel was born around 1802 and could possibly have been a son of one of
>them. All may at some point have called themselves Carruthers. There are
>four ways to spell Carruthers; with one or two r's and with a u or an o,
>and quite a number of ways of spelling Cauthers, including the far more
>common Cathers which is a name some in Fermanagh County still possess but
>try to get the address or phone number of any of them. In any case,
>mylittle families with the odd spelling seem to have used it with
>reasonable consistency except in Ontario. They also occasionally used
>Cuthers, Cothers, and Couthers. I've even seen Carrouthers. It looks as
>though two families in Fermanagh County distinctively used Carruthers and
>Carrothers. I think I've always seen the Carruthers family from Paisley
>spell it with a u. I've never seen the s left off which is important; a
>Carruther family originated in Renfrew County and the Carruthers family of
>medieval political importance originated in Dumfries County.
>
>Yours,
>Dora Smith
>