Hi Martha,
Have we communicated before? If not, why not??
Yours is the kind & level of research I lust to attain, and for which our Lists
Archives are so beautifully designed. Still, it is difficult, at best, to, as you have
done so well, tie disparate facts together leading to genealogical leaps. But best of all
from my selfish view is that you did it in a Line in which I have a vital interest.
At the risk of providing too much irrelevant information, causing confusion rather than
enlightenment, I will paste some other potentially relevant excerpts below. Thus, someone
with an interest will have access to abt 90% of the newer relevant info in this single
msg.
Not to sound too mysterious, but consider delaying any further research in this area
until a few weeks or so after the Holidays. I believe there is a significant body of newer
Carruthers/ Wton research, some of which I believe has not had wide distribution before,
about to surface. I hope to hear soon - I'll advise ASAP.
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year,
Barry Wetherington
PS: Seeing no Binkes Rootsweb List, I've applied to open one.
PPS: In addition to the surnames above, I suggest that the Hodges (Francis copied) &
the Smiths (Walter Smith 1st Atty Gen MD, Harold Smith reseaeching) also have an interest
in this development. I should also definitely include Womack & Tuncliff in the
interesting Surnames involved, AWA we've also corroborated relationships to the Bangs,
Somervilles, Parrotts, Parkers, Cleverlys, Clagetts, Bromes, Mackalls, Brights, Battsons,
Easterlings and others that fit into this Tree at various points. The various Archives
contain some quite extensive Trees. The Surname Archives are all accessible at:
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/w/witherington.html
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/carruthers.html
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/d/dare.html
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/r/rice.html
Note Above - just change the ist initial & the surname in these Links to visit ANY
Archive!
Martha's msg to me (bw):
Greetings,
Recently I have been researching in MD in hopes of finding my husband's line.
Unfortunately that has not happened however, a note from Barry Wetherington to the Rice-L
list the other evening caught my attention. I had recently found the 1722 will of Robert
Widdringtone of Christ Church Parish in Calvert
County, MD mentioned by Barry. His message mentioned Sarah Carruthers 1728 md Benjamin
Rice. I knew there was a 1770 indenture in Loudoun County, VA between James Carruthers
and Samuel Cox which mentioned James Rice d. 1740. After searching the archives of both
Carruthers-L and Witherington-L, I noted the names Cleverly and Gideon were used in these
families. I noted the following info contained in Barry's message to Witherington-L 26
Jul 2000 captioned "Witherington MD Hall of Records Annapolis Info Table:"
"Lib 15c 1694 p163 4 Dec 1694 Came Nath Dare by Robt Carucille his buroerat
...
answr - granted
p164 Dec 6 1694 Inv exh ...
5 Feb 1694 N Dare by Robt Carville /Carvile ? .. Answer .. To the Libel suit agst him by
Evan...? & his wife Eliz ... also exh of Thms Binkes late of Calv Co
p181 26 Mar 1695 Elrisco v Na Dare/// This case being ... answer ... parties appeared
& Evan Brice? W/... objections ... agst Nathaniel Dare ... Terms of Agreement ...
promise to ... refrain ... having failed ... promise ... case to be ctd.
16 May 1696 Jury Verdict agst Nathaniel Dare favor of Evan Rico?/Rice? (Many numbers)
5998# (lbs?) Tobacco (1/2 page discussion)"
I did not find the mention of the 1746 will of Benjamin Rice, Beaufort County, NC
contained in any of the archives and believe it may add something to the researchers of
all of these line. This will was filed with the North Carolina Office of the Secretary of
State rather than at the county level.
Abstracts of these wills can be found in "Abstracts of North Carolina Wills Compiled
From Original and recorded wills in the Office of the Secretary of State" by Brian
Grimes, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1975. The abstract follows:
Rice, Benjamin, Beaufort County
September 12, 1745, June Court, 1746. Sons: Zebulon, Benjamin, James, Even, Claverly,
Ephrim, Hezekiah, Gideon. Wife and Executrix: Mary.
Witnesses: James Humes, Nathaniel Draper, Thomas Willia. Clerk of the Court: John
Forbes.
I certainly hope we will be able to make a connection between the Loudoun County and MD
lines. It will take a lot of digging, but there does appear to be a connection. This may
be hoping for too much, however there was an Evan Rice who was transported to MD in 1677.
This info is contained in Liber 15,
Folio 430 in the MD Land patents. I would appreciate knowing the contents of this file if
anyone has access to the files in Annapolis. Evan is also mentioned in the
"Passengers and Immigration Lists Index" as having immigrated from Barbados
between 1663-1679.
Martha Rice
PS:
Barry,
The info below may possibly have some connection to your MD lines. Bill
Rice of Texas (. . .) has worked for many years on his line in
Loudoun County. I suggest you contact him. I certainly hope this will be a break
for both of you!
Loudoun County Deed Book G, pp. 307-310
Indenture made 4th/5th September 1770 between James Carruthers of parish
Cameron in County Loudoun of one part and Samuel Cox of same county..
Witnessth for sum One hundred and thirty pounds current money of Virginia..by deeds of
lease and release..sold parcel of land bounded..beginning at three Sycamores
at mouth of Pine Hill branch of Goose Creek on South side of the creek..nigh
the line of Jacob Lasswell..containing 247 acres which parcel of land was
granted by Proprietor of Northern Neck of Virginia to James Rice formerly of county
Stafford by his deed recorded in Proprietors office (1730) in Liber C page
101..and James Rice (d. 1740) sold said tract of land to James Carruthers who
made no disposition of same in his lifetime after his death said land descended
to and became the Estate of James Carruthers party to these presents as his
Eldest Son and Heir. .
Presence G. Johnson
Robert Hamilton, John Miller
James Carruthers
At a court held 10th September 1770.. Indenture and receipt endorsed
acknowledged..ordered to be recorded.
Martha
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From: <Ricesouthern(a)aol.com>
To: <CARRUTHERS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:51 PM
Subject: [Carruthers] Witherington/Carruthers/Rice/Dare
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Source: Family Tree Maker CD #509 - Genealogical Records: NC Wills,
1665-1900
ABSTRACT OF NORTH CAROLINA WILLS, 1690 - 1760 p. 16
BANGS, Abiah, widow of Jonathan Craven County June 3, 1755.
Cousin: Elizabeth HOBBS ("my lot in Newbern Town").
Daughter: Betty BANGS.
Sisters: Elizabeth and Mary CARRUTHERS.
Brothers: John CARRUTHERS, William CARRUTHERS.
Executors: William CARRUTHERS (brother), Robert JONES, "oturney at law."
Witnesses: William CREEKMORE, Rubin HAMMONTREE, William CARRUTHERS, Sr.
No probate.
BANGS, Jonathan Craven Co Oct 7 1743 June 15 1744 Wife Abiah
Daughter: Betty BANGS, Sister: Thankfull COVELL.
Executors: John CARRUTHERS(uncle), Abiah BANGS(wife).
Witnesses: Francis BRINKLEY, Jno. CARRUTHERS, Jo. Rd. HICKSON.
Clerk of the Court: W. ROUTLEDGE.
Coat of Arms on seal
We've also worked w/Harold Smith of the "Aletha Dare 1697 +Walter Smith 1684
-
1748" link you identify below. We've also corroborated some relationships to the
Somervilles, Parrotts, Parkers, Cleverlys, Clagetts, Bromes, Mackalls, Battsons,
Easterlings and others that fit into your Tree at various points, altho I don't
immediately spot the Gen link here. Obviously, 'our' "Mary Widdrington 1658
+Nathaniel Dare" is in the range to be related to 'your' "Nathaniel Dare
1678 - 1741
+Mary Cleverly 1675 - 1748", but I digress and speculate here. We have had deep and
enthusiastic discissions about these issues.
We also have an interesting story about "Aletha Dare 1697 +Walter Smith 1684
- 1748" involving a killing & her former spouse Rev George Cook.
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Hello Rices,
Below is an excerpt of our 1999 msg. We are still looking for the Rices to connect to
'our' W'ton family. We have 'Benjn' Rice awarded Cyder Casks in our
Robt Widdrington(e)/ Witherington will of 1722, and Sarah Carruthers 1728 md Benjamin
Rice, but still no definite connection.
Does anyone on Rice-L have any Rice connections to Widdrington(e)/ Witherington or
Carruthers?
Barry Wetherington
PS: Note some other Rice clues below that might assist you in your Gen search.
PPS: Here are also some Archives Links you can use to OneClick join (Free) and/or search /
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:33:10 -0400
From: Barry Wetherington <cbarry@,,,>
To: RICE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Benj Rice/Womack/Hatchett/Puckett/Witherington
Hi Rices,
This message connects up my family Widdrington/Witherington to Rice and discusses
possible connections to Womack, etc. Note some Rice names you have (Benj and Sarah) are
mentioned in the 2 wills below.
'My' Benjamin Rice was given a cider cask (obviously the most important devise of
this Robert Widdrington b1680 Md Eliz Dare, MD will) (excerpted below) of 1722.
This family eventually migrated to NC, to the New Bern area of Craven Co NC.
Thanks,
Barry Wetherington (Witherington-L)
(EXCERPT of WILL)
"Translation of the Robert Widdringtone Will of 1722, Calvert County, Md.. Maryland
State Archives Probate Records, Calvert Co, Liber 18, Folio 27. Translated by Michael
Smolek, 2/20/99
In the name of God Amen
I Robert Widdringtone of Christ Church Parish in Calvert County planter being...
Item I give and bequeath unto my Loving son, Solomon Widderingtone ...
Item I give and bequeath unto my son John .... And do appoint Henry Easterling Gurardian
to my said two sons Solomon & John until they attain the age of nineteen years ...
Item I do appoint Mr. Walter Smith of St. Leonards guardian of my Daughter Dorcas
Widderingtone until ...
Item I give and bequeath unto my said Daughter Dorcas...
Item I give and bequeath unto my Daughter Mary Widdringtone ... and do appoint her Aunt
Mrs. Mary Dare to be Guardian of her untill she attains the age of Sixteen years....
Item I give unto Benjn Rice my Cyder Casks.
Item I give unto my Daughter Elizabeth Easterling wife of Henry Easterling all my
household goods not otherwise disposed off all the rest and residue of my personall Estate
whatsoever I give and bequeath unto Henry Easterling whom I constitute and appoint sole
Executor of this my Last Will and Testament. In Witness thereof, I have hereunto set my
mark and seal this twentieth day of August in the year of Our Lord God- One thousand seven
hundred twenty two
Robert "his mark" Widdringtone Seal
...Witnesses, John Dickinson, William Rutledge, Henry Constable
...
I wrote? ??? me W. Smith Dept Com?? Calvert County"
______________________
This is a snippet of our Tree including Benjamin Rice MD Sarah Carruthers:
1 John Carruthers 1700 - 1752
+Content Unk
2 Rocksolannah Carruthers 1720 -
+John Witherington 1703 -
3 William Witherington, Sr 1740/41 - 1819 (My GGG Gm)
+Elizabeth Lewis 1745 -
. . . .
2 Frances Carruthers 1732 -
+Francis Hodges Sr
3 Joshua Hodges 1736 -
2 John Carruthers, Jr 1722 - 1762
+Jane Tuncliff
2 Joseph Carruthers 1724 - 1752
2 Sarah Carruthers 1728 -
+Benjamin Rice
2 William Carruthers 1730 - 1752
3 Sarah Carruthers 1740 -
Our 'other' families include Carruthers, Hodges, Dare, Easterling, Smith(Walter),
Fitchett, and Witherington/ Widdrington, heavily in MD and NC. Barry
============================
Below are some incidental potential insights.
Sarah Rice - Her children are:
Francis Rice -- Willed his part to his son Isham Rice.
Thomas Rice -- 5 children: William, Sally, Nancy, Charley, & Benjamin Rice.
____ Rice --His children are:
Abraham Rice -- ( no application )
Isham Rice -- Francis Rice his _ ___ he is dec'd & his widow Jamima Rice his
Excecutor.
Fanny Rice -- Her children - Nancy Rice received her mothers part but it is not said
she was the only child.
Molly Cheatham -- no application.
Josiah Hatchett, Joseph Talbolt & Martha his wife who was Martha Hatchett, Judith
Furkering who was Judith Hatchett & William Hatchett children of represenatives of
Elizabeth Hatchett, dec'd who was Elizabeth Womack:
Note: William Hatchetts share by a special order of Charlotte County, (note: 22june1806)
note further he William Hatchett is ___ this report of the Commission called the grandson
of Eliza Hatchett. How is That?
Plaintiffs VS Abner Womack, Eliza Cauthorn who was Elizabeth Womack (note says, living
in Franklin County Georgia, 90 years old in 1812)(therefore born about the time of
Robert Widdrington(e) Will of 1722, Calvert County, Md)
Elizabeth Puckett who was Rice -- her part assigned over to her son Flemming Puckett
& by him assigned over to Richard Driskill & paid to him.
... Isham Rice son & representative ( by Will ) of Francis Rice; William Rice, Sally
Rice, Nancy Rice, Charles Rice, & Benja Rice. Children Representatives of Thomas
Rice dec'd.
___ Rice __& __ ( his children's names not known )
( ---- ) Abraham Rice, Jamima Rice Ex r of Francis Rice __ ( Line drawn through
Children Representatives of ) Richard Driskill assignee of Fleming Puckett who was
assignee of Elizabeth Puckett who was Elizabeth Rice; --
children & representatives of Sarah Rice dec'd who was Sarah Womack.
.....
Mr. Rich d Driskill produced a transfer of Eliza Pucketts part of Wm Womacks as
to one of her sons & from her son to Rich d Driskill -- also a power of attorney
-- from Wm Rice, Sally Rice ( Nancy Rice, Charles Rice & Benja Rice children of
Tho s Rice dec d ___ ___ for the bal., that may be due the ___
Thos Rice dec d.
______________________________
...
stonewall jackson wrote:
Pat,
No, I don't mind at all. What I have been able to get out of it so far is that
Sarah Womack married a Rice. Their children were Thomas (father of Wm. Sally,
Nancy, Charles, and Benjamin), Francis (widow Jamima and son Isham), Abraham,
Fanny Rice (may be a widow of a son of Sarah's had daughter Nancy), Elizabeth who
married a Puckett, and another son the name was not ledgible I suppose.
...
Elizabeth Cauthorn was born in 1722((again, the date of Robt Widdrington's MD will).
She was the child of Abraham Womack, Sr. of LIncoln Co., NC.
I suppose Sarah Womack Rice was the daughter of William Womack of Charlotte Co., VA.
Hi Paul, I am not related to any of the ones listed in the will but I wondered if you
would mind if I forward it to Caswell Co. list. It might be of help and I know some of
the ones there are researching the Rice family.
Pat Nelson nels095(a)ibm.net
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EXCERPT OF JOHN CARRUTHERS WILL (1751), Craven Co., NC
I, John Carruthers, of the County of Craven, and Province of North Carolina, merchant,
...
I Give and Bequeath unto my Daughter, Rocksolannah Witherinton, one lott of Land lying
in Newbern town, and joining Pollocks Street and Eding Street...
Item. I Give and Bequeath to my daughter, Frances Hodges, ... and the
Francis Hodges Cow Pen, unto her, the sd. Frances Hodges...
Item. I Give and Bequeath unto my son, John Carruthers...
Item. I Give and Bequeath unto my Son, Joseph Carruthers...
Item. I Give and Bequeath to my daughter, Sarah Rice...
Item. I Give and Bequeath unto my two Sons in law, Francis Hodges and John
Witherinton...
Item. I Give and Bequeath unto my well beloved Wife, Content Carruthers...
Item. My will and Desire is that ... the Remandar of money may be Equaly devided between
my three Sons, William Carruthers, John Carruthers, and Joseph Carruthers, and my
daughter, Sarah Rice, and if my son William Carruthers shuld not be at the devision of the
money, I desire his Part of the money may continue in the hands of my Executors till he,
the foresd. William Carruthers, cums for it.
. . . .
John Carruthers (Seal) Sarah Betsworth (mark) Abiah Bangs Sol. Rew
______________________________
Some other incidental refs of potential value:
#1 Early VA, NC Rice/Womack puzzle #2 Caldwell Co., NC, VA Rice/Womack #3 Re: Josiah
Womack will [stonewall jackson <stonewall@InfoA]
I hope this will help someone. There are families that connect to the Rices consistantly
from VA in the early 1700's through the 1800s. The Womacks were one such family.
Other families include: Holcombs, Crenshaws, Harris, Watkins, and Barns.
Mlwomack(a)aol.com wrote: Paul, below is some info that may tie some info that may help sort
some of it i'm still trying to figure it out also. Roger Womack Will of Abraham
Womack, 15 September 1796.
... Given under my hand this 13th day of May Ad. 1816.
Sol Graves PM.
State of Notrh Carolina Caswell County
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:55:11 -0400 From: Barry Wetherington <cbarry@. . . .
To: RICE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Willis Witherington/Abiah Bangs/Carruthers/Witherington/Hodges/Rice
Thanks Frances, I thought Jean had sent something about Willis - she's out of the
counrty now though. I do hope to pursue the Abiah/Abia Bangs thing though. Thanks for your
thoughts and analysis. I'm including an excerpt of the 1751 Carruthers will below in
which there is mention of Sarah Betsworth Abiah Bangs Sol. Rew and the principals
Carruthers, Witherington, Hodges and Rice (also mentioned in the 1721 will).
Barry frances l Etheredge wrote: No one has inquired of Willis, as far as I am aware, but
I am sending this item for your records on Witheringtons, etc. Marriage Fees paid in Dobbs
County on Licenses Bought from July 5, 1783 to Jan 1, 1790. (List of receipts for marriage
licenses paid. Certified at Kinston). Willis Witherington Dec. 9, 1789 (No female listed)
The above were reported by Abraham Sheppard, Chairman of the Court of Pleas and Common
Sessions. (Stubs filed with Secretary of State.) In the will of Abraham ADAMS, Sr. dated
23 Oct 1733, Bath Co. NC, he names his wife, Bathia, Sons: Willoughby, Abram Richard and
William and a daughter, ABIA. Do you suppose there is a connection with the family of Abia
BANGS? It was witnessed by Philip and Mary Shute and J. N. Collison. Frances
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