Hi Jerald W Caruthers,
Bill King fwded this message to me.
My GGGG Gm was Rocksolannah Carruthers b abt 1720, md John Witherington
b1703, d/o John Carruthers (b1700ish) md Content (Bangs). We have just had
an epiphanic revelation identifying John's wife as a Bangs, potentially
tying the Carruthers w/a well developed family Line, the Bangs, many of
these messages having been posted to the Carruther-L List. Are you a member
- is this why you have contacted us, or is it just a coincidence? The reason
I mention it is that we have been somewhat stuck at John Carruthers f/o
Rock.. for a few yrs, basically until the last few weeks.
I remember there were 2 brothers with extensive Carruthers info on
Carruthers-L - can't recall their names. It may be those bros who provided
the specific date you mention:
"1675 birthdate of Nathaniel Carruthers in Perquimasna"
While perhaps not as extensive as your very informative tome, let me make
a few points. 'Our' John Carruthers may be of the approx time period as your
John:
"So I place Nathaniel's arrival in North Carolina at least by the end of
the 1720s. There were numerous records of land purchases by Nathaniel over
the next decade. The land records indicate that the main region of
Nathaniel, and later his sons, James, Jacob, and John"
I will extract a few items of possible interest to you below (obviously,
whatever you find could also assist us). Our Dares (Nathaniel, Gideon &
James), the ancestors of Elizabeth:
1 Robt Widdrington/Witherington d 1722 w/will md Eliz Dare
2 John Witherington b1703 md Rocksolannah Carruthers b abt 1720
d/o John Carruthers md Content (Bangs)
go back to the early 1600s, but our emigrating W/ton is elusive. Reason I
mention the Dares is that they were active in the Friends also - some moved
to NY to be more active, then ret'd to NC. Our W'tons began in MD, then to
NC.
Browse the very recent Bangs Carruthers messages at:
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/c/carruthers.html
especially if you are aware of the Gen relationship of any of the following
surnames:
Bangs, Dare, Dillingham, Easterling, Witherington or Widdrington
Here are some potentially helpful notes developed by our excellent Gen
researchers, basically extracted from the recent Carruthers-L Archives:
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[Notes re: eary Carruthers, most or all of which will be contained in the
Carruthers-L List Archives]:
Barry, just a note to clear up some of my comments on the Bangs/ Carruthers
land purchases in NC. These were documented in the New England gen. books
series that I quoted - dates for Bangs purchase, who bought from, and that
it is recorded in the Mass, Barnswell court records (according to the
books), as well as the will of Jonthan Bangs father. If I recall the owner
of the land in NC who sold it to Bangs was living in MA., and Bangs was
living there, and that land purchase document is supposed to be inMA court
records also. The title to the land for Bangs and Carruthers is in the NC
land grant book series that most libs. have (even down here on the border).
The list of neighbors for Bangs is the same as the list of neighors for
Carruthers. The land purchases,dates and move dates are documented.
"Jonathan Bangs and John Carruthers bought land 1738 in New Bern, Craven
Co., NC next to each other and moved in 1739 from Mass to NC."
1. CARRUTHERS-L(a)rootswebs.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: Carruthers/Bangs I have found a Thankful Bangs her parents were
Jonathan and Elizabeth, could this be Jonathan's first wife and Abiah his
second. I found her in
wwwgenealogy.com in ancsetry search and I also have
the land deed records for Craven Co NC from 1726 to 1758 the only thing I
have for 1738 is where william Carruthers gave to his sister Rochsolannah
Martin ( widow of John Martin) a tract of 200 acres on the north side of
lower Broad Creek near the mouth of Neuse River, and in 1736 there was a
Solmon Wetherington and John Martin where land is sold between to of them.
Deborah Jonathan(3) had a s. Jonathan b. Dec. 1698. It is possible that this
is the Jonathan who m. Abiah Carruthers and noted a sister Thankful Covell
in his will. However there is no mention anywhere of a sister Content either
in
his will, his fathers will or in any of the books on the Bangs family.
[Rocksolannahs land could well be the original plot which resulted w/her
living on Lot #98, catty-cornered to Tryon Palace, New Bern NC. We have info
of that! bw 1/20/02]
BANGS, Jonathan Craven Co Oct 7 1743 June 15 1744 Wife Abiah
Daughter: Betty BANGS, Sister: Thankfull COVELL.
Executors: John CARRUTHERS(uncle), Abiah BANGS(wife).
Witnesses: Francis BRINKLEY, Jno. CARRUTHERS, Jo. Rd. HICKSON.
Clerk of the Court: W. ROUTLEDGE.
Coat of Arms on seal.
and also:
ABSTRACT OF NORTH CAROLINA WILLS, 1690 - 1760 p. 16
BANGS, Abiah, widow of Jonathan Craven County June 3, 1755.
Cousin: Elizabeth HOBBS (my lot in Newbern Town).
Daughter: Betty BANGS.
Sisters: Elizabeth and Mary CARRUTHERS.
Brothers: John CARRUTHERS, William CARRUTHERS.
Executors: William CARRUTHERS (brother), Robert JONES, oturney at law.
Witnesses: William CREEKMORE, Rubin HAMMONTREE, William CARRUTHERS, Sr
Jonathan Bangs, dec. of Edward Bangs to Mass in 1623 on the "Anne", b dec
1689, "Marriner of Harwich, Mass", Barnstable Co, Mass. m. as wife #2 ABIAH
CARRUTHERS, sister of John Carruthers, father of Rocksolanah. Marriage took
place in Mass. John Carruthers m. CONTENT BANGS, sister of Jonathan.
Jonathan and Content Bangs father left a will in Mass. naming all his kids.
Jonathan had no children from Wife #1 Ruth___.
Jonathan Bangs and John Carruthers bought land 1738 in New Bern, Craven Co.,
NC next to each other and moved in 1739 from Mass to Nc.
Bangs deed may be recorded in Mass., which means that the Carruthers deed
may be there too.
Oh, Jane _______ was wife of John Carruthers Jr (Rocksolanah's brother),
named as wittn. on will of Jerimiah Murphy in Craven Co., Nc Nov. 1750
Hi I am Deborah Carothers my 5th GGrandfather was John Carruthers I have
found that he was married to Contents Bangs and that Jonathan Bangs was
married to Abiah Carruthers do you have any infromation on this ?
CRAVEN COUNTY, NC - DEEDS - Abstracts of Deed Books 8-10 p 226 - Will of
Abiah Bangs - 3 June l755 - cousin Elizabeth Hobbs; daughter Betty Bangs;
sisters Elizabeth Carruthers, Mary Carruthers; brother john Carruthers. (
below is ending of the will of John Carruthers ) Signed, Sealed, Published
and Declared, by the within named testator, John Carruthers, to be his last
will and testament, in presence of us the Subscribers Sarah Betsworth
(signed with her mark) Abiah Bangs Solmon Rew
Craven County, NC February Court, 1752 These are to certify, that the within
will of John Carruthers, deceased, being Exhibited into Court, was proved by
the oath of Soloman Rew, one of the subscribing evidences to the same, who
swore that he saw the testator sign, seal, and declare the same to be his
last Will and Testament, and to the best of his knowledge was of sound Mind
and Disposing Memory. And that he also saw Sarah Betsworth and Abiah Bangs,
the other subscribing evidences, sign as such in the presence of the
Testator. At the same time John Carruthers, one of the Esecutors therein
mentiond, appeared in court and qaualified according to Law. Phil Smith,
Current Clerk
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From: "lynn.bill.king" <lynn.bill.king(a)pdq.net>
To: "Barry Wetherington" <cbarrywether(a)hotmail.com>, "Jean &
Charlie
Witherington" <jow(a)kua.net>, "Ann Greer" <agreer(a)alltel.net>
Subject: Nathaniel Carruthers
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 19:25:19 -0600
----- Original Message -----
From: <JCaruth99(a)aol.com>
To: <lynn.bill.king(a)pdq.net>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 6:52 PM
Subject: Nathaniel Carruthers
Please excuse my email from out of the blue, but I am
seeking information about Nathaniel Carruthers that
Doris Sanders said you may have. She recorded and
believes you were the source of an approximate 1675
birthdate of Nathaniel Carruthers in Perquimasna.
By the way, I have not seen Perquimans County spelled
Perquimasna. That in itself suggest that you have a source
of information that I have not run across.
For your information I have attached a file containing information
I have on Nathaniel and his immediate family.
Thank you for any information you can provide.
Jerald Caruthers
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Nathaniel Carruthers of Perquimans County, North Carolina
Introduction: In search of the ancestors of William Caruthers, who, in the
1760s to 1780s, was in New Jersey and then in Louisiana in the 1790s until
he died in 1804, we >have arrived at the family of Nathaniel Carruthers of
Perquimans Precinct (now a county), North
Carolina. Several sources indicate that William was born in North
Carolina
around 1740 (the actual date we will note later is 15Dec1738). The
following is a discussion of Nathaniel Carruthers, who I will show
is the grandfather of William, and James Carruthers, Nathaniel's son who is
Williams father.
(See the attached diagram of Nathaniel's family.)
Much of the information I record here was collected at the Perquimans
County Courthouse on a diversion I made through eastern North Carolina
during a trip to Washington, D.C., in 1992.
Nathaniel Carruthers and Family: Nathaniel Carruthers seems to be the
earliest Carruthers in >North Carolina and one of the very earliest in the
American Colonies. A deed dated 18 Oct1731 recorded in the Perquimans
County Courthouse that Nathaniel bought land in Bethel Township from John
Stepney. This is not the earliest land record involving Nathaniel; however,
its date is the most definite. A prior record is an entry in Quit Rent
Payments (part of the feudal system of tenant farming) that concerns rents
from Sep1729 to Mar1732. It was recorded, however, on the later date of
12Jun1735. It seems likely that Nathaniel's quit rent record would be prior
to the deed for his ownership of land in 1731. So I place Nathaniel's
arrival in North Carolina at least by the end of the 1720s. There were
numerous records of land purchases by Nathaniel over the next decade. The
land records indicate that the main region of Nathaniel, and later his
sons,
James, Jacob, and John, was concentrated in Bethel Township a large region
just south of Hertford between the Perquimans and Yeopim River. More
particularly, it seems that their lands were probably in the southern part
of the township about 5 miles south of Hertford and bordered by the Yeopim
River on the south and west and by the Yeopim Creek on the east. Today the
New Bethel Church, which I believe is Baptist, now stands at a crossroads
that may be centered on
those past land holdings.
Nathaniel and his family were active Quakers in Perquimans County,
the
apparent
origination of Quaker activity in North Carolina. Later we will discuss
Quaker activities and the
history of Perquimans County. Throughout the 1730s and early 1740s,
Nathaniel appears in
numerous records as a magistrate in Perquimans County; generally conducting
his official
business in Hertford. James and Jacob appear to have had official business
in the county also.
Nathaniel and his three sons (he also had a daughter, Elizabeth) were
very active in
community and Quaker business in the 1740s. James appears as a juryman,
along with his father,
Nathaniel in the Legislative Journal of Monday, 25Feb1739. In the early
1740s, Nathaniel was
granting his various land holdings to his sons. Nathaniel died on 22Jun1745
and his death was
recorded in the January Court of 1750. Jacob appeared at least once, in
1750, as Constable.
Nathaniel's sons, however, did not themselves appear in any land records
until the 1740s.
Sometime in the late 1740s or early 50s, James and brother Jacob seem
to have moved
across the Yeopim River into Chowan County. John died about 1750 and left a
tract of land on
Deadman's Swamp lying on the Yeopim River in Perquimans County to James and
Jacob. There
are various records of the activities of the grandchildren of Nathaniel in
Perquimans and Chowan
County. The only record of William, a son of James, in North Carolina is
his
birth.
William Caruthers: To this point I have left the connection between William
Carruthers above
and William Caruthers of New Jersey a bit dubious. It is my goal, now, to
establish a connection
with near certainty. It must first be pointed out that the William we seek
has been noted in
several records as being from North Carolina, notably his death record in
Louisiana clearly states
that he was from North Carolina. (Although not recorded in his death
record,
he obviously
arrived in Louisiana by way of New Jersey, but that's another story
reserved
for a thesis on
William himself.) So we are compelled to find a William in North Carolina
that fits the profile of
the William we seek.
At dates slightly later than the Perquimans dates, Carrutherses
arrived
in Beaufort and
Craven Counties (two families who were possibly related to each other since
the areas they
settled in the two counties were nearby). At still later dates,
Carrutherses, some from the
previously settled counties, moved farther west in North Carolina. But
these
are of no
consequence here because of their late dates. First, the only other William
Carrutherses in North
Carolina in the first half of the 1700s were a father, a senior, and his
son, a junior, in Beaufort
County, and a William in Craven County. Those two of Beaufort County,
William, Sr. and his
son were involved in land transactions in 1750. This makes the father
obviously too old and the
son probably as well. The son would have been ten given the ca.1740 birth
date for William (or
at most twelve with the date of late 1738 that we are otherwise willing to
accept). Ten or twelve
years are unlikely ages for land transactions in his name, especially,
given
that the father was also
involved. So, he also must be too old. There are numerous records of
William
of Craven County
suggesting first that he was too old and second that he remained in North
Carolina beyond the
time our William was in New Jersey (1761).
Finally, and probably conclusively with respect to all three of those
Williams, our
William married a Quaker in New Jersey in a district, like Perquimans, that
was predominately
Quaker. In those days Quakers were forbidden to marry outside their
religion. The other counties
in North Carolina were not Quaker at an early date. It is unlikely that
these other Williams were
Quaker; in fact, their families owned slaves, something forbidden to a
Quaker. It is virtually
certain, therefore, that the William we seek is from the Nathaniel
Carruthers family and was born
in of James and Rose Carruthers in Perquimans County on 15Dec1738.
Perquimans County History: In 1663 the northeastern part of Colonial North
Carolina was
known as Albermarle. It was the coastal region immediately south of
Virginia
and a short
distance from Jamestown. Essentially all the early residents of Albermarle
in North Carolina at
the time were from Jamestown or nearby regions of Virginia. Albermarle was
the earliest
settlements in North Carolina. In 1671 it was divided into the precincts of
Carteret, Berkley, and
Shaftsberry. In 1681 Carteret was divided into Currituck and Pasquotank,
Berkley was renamed
Perquimans, and Shaftsberry became Chowan. In 1739 the precincts were
renamed counties.
From a slightly contradictory perspective, Perquimans Precinct was
established about
1668, in the heart of the first permanently settled area in North Carolina.
Perquimans, meaning
"land of beautiful women," was named by its earliest inhabitants, the
Yeopim
Indians a branch
of the family of Algonquians. Perquimans included the land between the
Yeopim River and Little
River. At its greatest extent, Perquimans reached from the Virginia border
to the Alligator River.
Today, its people occupy 261 square miles of low land between the
Albermarle
Sound and the
Great Dismal Swamp.
Perquimans Precinct was the seat of the early government of North
Carolina. One of
North Carolina's oldest towns, Hertford, was incorporated in 1758 (quite
some time, however,
from its earliest beginnings), primarily to serve as the county seat and
commercial center for
Perquimans County. <
http://www.albemarle-nc.com/hertford/hertford.htm>
Earliest Quakers in North Carolina: In heart of Hertford there exists a
plaque commemorating
the arrival of William Edmundson in May of 1672 and, six months later,
George Fox, the
founder of the Religious Society of Friends. Together they established the
first Society of
Friends, the Quakers, in North Carolina.
The Immediate Descendants of Nathaniel Carruthers
of Perquimans County, North Carolina.
Nathaniel Carruthers; Quaker, blacksmith, magistrate, and land owner; b.
unkn; m. unkn;
d. 1745; w. 1750.
James; blacksmith, m. Rose (last name unkn), date unkn.
William; b. 15Dec1738; m. Elizabeth Bickham, 22Jun61 in
Haddonfield, New Jersey.
Jeremiah; b. 2Jan1740; m. Tamer Hassel, 8Dec1762.
Sarah; b. 26May1743.
John; b. 17Feb1745.
Jacob; b. unkn; m. Ann (last name unkn), date unkn.
Nathaniel.
Jacob.
John.
Elizabeth.
NathanielCarruthersNJ.wpd
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Jerald W. Caruthers
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