In a message dated 5/16/01 1:47:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Richard.Underwood(a)cwusa.com writes:
Harvey,
Thanks for your reply. You certainly can forward my previous letter on to
the other members, hopefully it will be helpful to someone.
According to family history, Robert Carouth served in General Wolfe's army
in the French and Indian War (Seven years War), and was present at the
battle of Quebec in September 1759. If this is true he would almost
certainly have also been at the Battle of Louisbourg in 1758. This has not
been documented, however and British Military records while extensive, are
not yet available on-line. It is interesting to note that the only Scottish
(Highland) regiment in Wolfe's army was the old 78th, Fraser's Highlanders.
So this would be a likely place to start any serious search of the military
records.
Family history also says the Carrouths came from Carruthmuir Scotland, which
is near Glasgow and Greenock. The attached LDS link shows Carruthmuir as
Robert's birthplace.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
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http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp>
While the 78th was recruited in Inverness, (some distance from Carruthmuir),
their embarcation point was Greenock, very close to Carruthmuir.
After the war, many of the men of the 78th were given land grants in Eastern
Canada, the rest of the regiment returned to Scotland where it was disbanded
in 1763. Robert could have spent time in Canada, or immigrated to NC from
Scotland. This is just a theory however, and the military service would
need to be proved first.
I also have to wonder about a connection to the Carruths already in NC,
especially as Robert's oldest son was named Walter.
Regards,
Richard
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From: HARVEY33(a)aol.com [mailto:HARVEY33@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 6:55 PM
To: Richard.Underwood(a)cwusa.com
Subject: Re: New Carruth Family Records found and posted
Hello Richard,
Thank you very much for writing and giving me information on Robert Carouth
(Carroth, Carruth) from Cumberland County, N.C. who is found in the 1790
federal census there. This is very interesting. This is a Robert Carruth
(various spelling) that I cannot account for. Where did he come from? Do
you have any idea? May I forward your letter to our family list? There are
two distinct different Robert Carruth's listed on the 1790 federal census in
Rutherford County, N.C. and I know who they are. I can't find another son
named Robert from either Walter, Adam, or Alexander Carruth's (3 brothers
and sons of James Carruth of Antrim County, Ireland) children other than the
two mentioned above who were living in Rutherford County, N.C. in 1790.
I wonder if this may have been one of their cousins who also immigrated from
Ireland or Scotland. I do know there are a couple of Carruth's listed in
Virginia
that I have not been able to account for either from the brothers mentioned
above. Look forward to hearing from you again.
Best Wishes,
Harvey Carrouth
In a message dated 5/14/01 9:14:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Richard.Underwood(a)cwusa.com writes:
Harvey,
This link seems to provide info. on both Robert Carouth (Carroth) of
Cumberland and Robert of Rutherford.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
Robert Carouth of Cumberland, married Margaret McFarland, daughter of Daniel
McFarland. Their children were:
Walter b. c1774
John b. c1778
Nancy married William Taylor C 1795
Margaret (Peggy)b. c1786 baptized 3/29/1787 at Bluff Presbyterian Church
in Wade, NC. Peggy married Robert Williams of sampson Co. NC.
Robert b. c1773 was the son of Captain John C. Williams and Katie Carouth.
Mary married a Pharis and moved to AL.
This coincides with the 1790 census info. of 2 white males 16 and over, 1
male under 16 and 4 females.
Most of the other details above are from "The Heritage of Sampson County
North Carolina". While I haven't been able to verify all of the information
from that source, the LDS records and Bluff Presbyterian Church records etc
do verify some of it.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccumber/baprec1.htm
the baptismal records of the church are on the link above.
Let me know what you think. Robert Carouth (Carroth) of Cumberland was
supposed to have been in General Wolfe's army at the battle of Quebec in
1759, but i have not been able to document this.
Regards,
Richard
In a message dated 5/14/01 5:16:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Richard.Underwood(a)cwusa.com writes:
Harvey,
Thanks for the e mail on the various Robert Carruths. I am a descendant of
the Robert Carruth (Carroth) found in the 1790 census of Cumberland, Co.
I have some information on this family which I will get together and send to
you. It is because of this connection that I joined your mailing list awhile
back.
Nothing I know about this Robert Carruth suggests he was a minister, so I
doubt this is the same man as the Reverand in the 1790 Rutherford census.
If you don't hear from me by later this week, send me an e mail to remind
me. I would enjoy sharing information with you on this branch of the
family. I think you may find some of the info. I have on this Robert
Carruth rather interesting.
Regards,
Richard
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Hello,
Have updated my homepage, page three (link to page three at the bottom of
page one), to include immigrating ancestors ship records, and many
additional census records. Of those new records found, I found an
additional Robert Carruth (Carroth) on the 1790 Census record for North
Carolina (Cumberland County) that I can't account for. Also, the 1755
record for Adam Curruth and 1793 records for Adam and Robert Curruth I found
of particular interest as well as a 1790 South Carolina Census record for
Drury Carath. It looks like the Robert Carroth on the Cumberland County,
N.C. Federal Census for 1790 may be the same Robt. Caruth Rev. found on the
same Census in Rutherford County, N.C. The entry for Robert in Cumberland
County shows two males over 16, one male under 16, and four females while
the entry for Robert in Rutherford County shows 2 males over 16, 2 males
under 16, and 5 females. The other Robert Caruth found on the 1790 Federal
Census, also in Rutherford County, shows 2 males over 16, 6 males under 1
6, and 2 females. The latter Robert Caruth here is no doubt immigrating
ancestor Adam Carruth's son. The first two shown above (I believe to be the
same) are immigrating ancestor Alexander Carruth's son Robert Carruth.
Alexander was Adam's brother as well as the brother of Walter Carruth whom
all apparently immigrated from Ireland in 1729. You can find Walter and
Adam mentioned in the ship record I have posted. I can not find another
Robert Carruth to fit for the Cumberland County, N.C. entry and if anyone
else has an idea concerning this I would like to hear it. Also, the listing
for Adam's son Robert, showing two females is very interesting as he had two
daughters who would not have been old enough to be married in 1790. With
only two females listed, I'm wondering if maybe his wife had died. Perhaps
this is the reason for finding conflicting information on who his wife was
as I have wrote about before. Additionally, there are a number of new
census records for Carruths found in N.C. and some others that could
possibly be Carruths, but am not sure due to the spelling. As we no, the
Carruth name can be found spelled many different ways. Hope something
found here is of interest to you.
Best Wishes,
Harvey Carrouth
Carruth-Carrouth Family Homepage
http://hometown.aol.com/harvey33/Page1.html
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