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My Norton just caught a "Snow White" virus also. I don't know
whose computer it came from, so I am not suggesting it came from
anyone on this list. Even if it did, that person may not have
even known it came to me.
I would like to say that if someone is lonely, I urge that person
to try to establish friendships in a mail list or chat room for
that purpose. This mail list is designed for genealogy research,
and I think we should use it for that purpose only.
Lura
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Hook" <gerryhook(a)socket.net>
To: <CARROLL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Messages
> Dave, thanks for your message. I'll be certain that I continue
deleting all
> incoming messages with Attachments.
>
> Gerry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave
> Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Messages
>
>
> I too have rec'd the same dumb message from him. He asked if
he could be
> "friends'. Since then I have rec'd 3 snow white attachments. I
think he's a
> sick-o.
>
>
>
> > Gerry Hook wrote:
> >
> > > Good afternoon Phyllis and listers,
> > >
> > > I have yet to received a reply from MArntz1071@aol; perhaps
I should
> > > consider myself lucky.
> > >
> > > I have received another message from Bluecmas77@aol; the
second message
> is a
> > > repeat of the first. Only 'Hi' in the message portion of
the e-mail.
> > >
> > > Gerry
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Phyllis Phillips <pmp(a)iname.com>
> > > To: <CARROLL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 10:20 AM
> > > Subject: [CARROLL] Thank You
> > >
> > > > I'm glad somebody cleared up the problems that I also
recieved from
> the
> > > > same two poster's and I totally agree with Ms Hook
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Phyllis
> > > >
> >
>
>
18 years, 7 months
by David Marine
Carroll ancestors;Benjamin F. Carroll B.1870 Kentucky ?D.1953 Illinois(married Litha Ann Milby/daugther of George Milby and Mary Reed M.1903 Hodgenville Larue County Kentucky),Children;Irene F.Carroll B.1920 Kentucky D.1972 Illinois(M.Francis Benjamin Sterling 1939 Muscatine,Iowa),Luther Guy Carroll B.1908 Kentucky D.1987 Illinois,Benjamin Riley Carroll B.1918 Kentucky D.1986 Illinois,Claude L. Carroll B.1912 Kentucky D.1994 Illinois,Max Carroll B.1924 Kentucky D.1991 Illinois,Maxine Carroll B.1924(Mrs.Laverne Anderson),Violet J.Carroll B.1917 Kentucky D.1970(Mrs.Paul Steele),Beth H. Carroll B.1901 D.1993(Mrs.Maurice J.Craven),Ina P.Carroll B.1905 Kentucky D.1963 Illinois(Mrs.Luther Saltsman),Earl Carroll No Dates,Howard Carroll No Dates,Mrs. Henry Lampkin No Dates and Lola Saltsman B.1899 D.1978 Any connection contact Tipp at Tipperary_1(a)hotmail.com
Can anyone help me find the descendants/family of Eliza A. Gary and Andrew
A. Lane? Eliza was born in New Jersey March 30, 1866 and Andrew was born
September 1844.
Eliza was the daughter of Margaret Kline and Jeremiah Gary.
Her grandparents were Sarah Carrell and Henry S. Kline.
Andrew Lane was the son of Andrew C. Lane and Ellen Emmons.
Children of Andrew and Eliza:
Arthur b. August 23, 1887 in New Jersey married Romie Giles on March 25,
1914
Alcah (Alvie) born July 30, 1889 married Grace M. Tomette
MANY THANKS!!!
Bob Dougherty,
Boston, MA
Dave, thanks for your message. I'll be certain that I continue deleting all
incoming messages with Attachments.
Gerry
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave
Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Messages
I too have rec'd the same dumb message from him. He asked if he could be
"friends'. Since then I have rec'd 3 snow white attachments. I think he's a
sick-o.
> Gerry Hook wrote:
>
> > Good afternoon Phyllis and listers,
> >
> > I have yet to received a reply from MArntz1071@aol; perhaps I should
> > consider myself lucky.
> >
> > I have received another message from Bluecmas77@aol; the second message
is a
> > repeat of the first. Only 'Hi' in the message portion of the e-mail.
> >
> > Gerry
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Phyllis Phillips <pmp(a)iname.com>
> > To: <CARROLL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 10:20 AM
> > Subject: [CARROLL] Thank You
> >
> > > I'm glad somebody cleared up the problems that I also recieved from
the
> > > same two poster's and I totally agree with Ms Hook
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Phyllis
> > >
>
Thank you Gerry for explaining "Iowegian." I would have guessed
that it was a person from the "low" country as opposed to the
mountains. I have been thinking too much about Ireland, I
suppose.
If the person who sent mail with attachments had your address in
his address book and the attachment was indeed a virus, he
probably did not know the message was sent.
You are truly wise not to open attachments unless you scan them
first with an anti-virus program such as Norton. This is what I
do if I think they may be important.
Lura
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Hook" <gerryhook(a)socket.net>
To: <CARROLL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:15 AM
Subject: [CARROLL] Descendency and More
> Good morning listers,
>
> To answer your questions, Lura, "What is an Iowegian?" An
Iowegian is a
> person whose residence is IOWA.
>
> ATTN: MArntz1071@aol Re: Descendency
> MArntz, your FIVE messages to me arrived WITH ATTACHEMTNS.
> I'd like to read your comments about my post to the list,
however, we make
> it our practice NOT to accept attachments because of the virus
situation,
> perhaps posting your comments to the list will be easier than
sending direct
> with attachments.
A hugh thank you to all of you Carroll's out there who have taken the time to
respond to my post and wish me all the luck in finding my birth parents.
I can't believe how many of you out there that responded to my post!!! It is
truely appreciated!!!
Hopefully next week, I will find the answer that I have been searching for.
I am making the trip to Ohio to visit Bureau of Vital statistics microfische
room. There I am told my birth mothers name shall be along with mine.
Thanks again for all of your kind emails and support.
Barbara
Whoops, sorry, I was too quick with the key punches. Here is a reply to
David regarding the O' in O'Carroll.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ronnie Morley [mailto:cmorley1@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:38 AM
To: David Kinney
Subject: RE: [CARROLL] Need Crest info
Just another interesting "aside". The original Irish names were without any
Mac, Mc or O'. The original name, let's say Carroll, was the forebearer.
The offspring were MacCarroll or McCarroll and the grandchildren (and after)
were O'Carroll. Many of the prefixes were dropped during the English reign
in the 1600's.
Regards, Carroll Morley
-----Original Message-----
From: David Kinney [mailto:dkinney@harriscomputer.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 8:03 AM
To: CARROLL-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Need Crest info
There seems to be a lot of interest in the crest business, so, if everyone
would like, I will keep posting information as I find out more information.
Thanks again to all the help you have all offered (and continue to
offer--every little bit helps!!!)
And as it turns out, I discovered that Anthony's (my ggf) parents were
Charles O'Carroll (evidently Anthony dropped the O) and Maria Potter.
Slainte.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet Deck" <djanet(a)hotmail.com>
To: <CARROLL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Need Crest info
> David,
>
> This has been an interesting and educational exchange on family crests.
> I've come to realize it could take a lifetime of research to find your
> Carroll crest -- if there is even one in your line. I cannot even get
> beyond 1850 for a gg grandfather born in Ireland c. 1790.
>
> So just going with something you like the looks of may be your only
choice.
> And if you want to add your own touch to your crest, I think that would be
> allowable here in America. Do a little research as to what the various
> items in a crest mean and go with it. As Juhling said, it is probably
best
> not to trust the text found at commercial sites or stores that sell
crests.
>
> To browse for more crests, search irishsurnames.com or Irish Coats of
Arms.
> I found a few Carrolls there. Also --- Kenny. Are you sure of the
spelling
> of your name? Could be another case of Carrell/Carroll.
> Good luck and enjoy. Janet
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Kinney [mailto:dkinney@harriscomputer.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 8:03 AM
To: CARROLL-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Need Crest info
There seems to be a lot of interest in the crest business, so, if everyone
would like, I will keep posting information as I find out more information.
Thanks again to all the help you have all offered (and continue to
offer--every little bit helps!!!)
And as it turns out, I discovered that Anthony's (my ggf) parents were
Charles O'Carroll (evidently Anthony dropped the O) and Maria Potter.
Slainte.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet Deck" <djanet(a)hotmail.com>
To: <CARROLL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Need Crest info
> David,
>
> This has been an interesting and educational exchange on family crests.
> I've come to realize it could take a lifetime of research to find your
> Carroll crest -- if there is even one in your line. I cannot even get
> beyond 1850 for a gg grandfather born in Ireland c. 1790.
>
> So just going with something you like the looks of may be your only
choice.
> And if you want to add your own touch to your crest, I think that would be
> allowable here in America. Do a little research as to what the various
> items in a crest mean and go with it. As Juhling said, it is probably
best
> not to trust the text found at commercial sites or stores that sell
crests.
>
> To browse for more crests, search irishsurnames.com or Irish Coats of
Arms.
> I found a few Carrolls there. Also --- Kenny. Are you sure of the
spelling
> of your name? Could be another case of Carrell/Carroll.
> Good luck and enjoy. Janet
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
>
>
Good morning listers,
To answer your questions, Lura, "What is an Iowegian?" An Iowegian is a
person whose residence is IOWA.
ATTN: MArntz1071@aol Re: Descendency
MArntz, your FIVE messages to me arrived WITH ATTACHEMTNS.
I'd like to read your comments about my post to the list, however, we make
it our practice NOT to accept attachments because of the virus situation,
perhaps posting your comments to the list will be easier than sending direct
with attachments.
Bluecmas77@aol Re: Descendency
Bluecmas, your message was short - in fact all it contained was the word
"Hi". Guess you hit your 'send' button prematurely.
Finally, here's my situation with following my CARROLLs. Martin and
Margaret, along with their three daughters Mary (b. ca. 1845; Julia b. ca.
1846; Bridget b. ca. 4848) immigrated to Burlington, Iowa ca. 1852. The
only time a point of emigration is mentioned is in Martin's 1881 obit,
stating he was from County Kerry.
I've checked the Householder's Index for County Kerry without coming to a
conculsion as every parish has one or more CARROLL families listed. Some of
these family were Protestant landholders. My Carroll family attended the
Catholic church in Burlington.
Since I have not been able to verify their existence beyond Iowa to their
origins in Ireland, I am in a quandry as to what line/sept they descend.
Perhaps I am missing an obvious lead as to Martin's and Margaret's origins.
Aside from a direct quote from either Martin, Margaret, Mary, Julia or
Bridget regarding their parish and/or township, and with only the obit
mention of County Kerry, where to look next?
Gerry
Geraldine Carol Sheehan Hook
There seems to be a lot of interest in the crest business, so, if everyone
would like, I will keep posting information as I find out more information.
Thanks again to all the help you have all offered (and continue to
offer--every little bit helps!!!)
And as it turns out, I discovered that Anthony's (my ggf) parents were
Charles O'Carroll (evidently Anthony dropped the O) and Maria Potter.
Slainte.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet Deck" <djanet(a)hotmail.com>
To: <CARROLL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [CARROLL] Need Crest info
> David,
>
> This has been an interesting and educational exchange on family crests.
> I've come to realize it could take a lifetime of research to find your
> Carroll crest -- if there is even one in your line. I cannot even get
> beyond 1850 for a gg grandfather born in Ireland c. 1790.
>
> So just going with something you like the looks of may be your only
choice.
> And if you want to add your own touch to your crest, I think that would be
> allowable here in America. Do a little research as to what the various
> items in a crest mean and go with it. As Juhling said, it is probably
best
> not to trust the text found at commercial sites or stores that sell
crests.
>
> To browse for more crests, search irishsurnames.com or Irish Coats of
Arms.
> I found a few Carrolls there. Also --- Kenny. Are you sure of the
spelling
> of your name? Could be another case of Carrell/Carroll.
> Good luck and enjoy. Janet
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
>
Hi, Wonder if any one has been looking for a Charlie Carroll from
Illinois...he's found in Sullivan County, TN. Buried in Garland Cem. and was
73 yrs, died Apr 30, 1918, married and parents unk..no wife's name Mentioned,
this was submitted by a Matilda Carroll...
Jan
David,
In case you have not visited this site:
http://www.irishroots.net/LaoisOff.htm
Perhaps they could do a search for you (inexpensively) for a Carroll crest.
I notice that Carroll is listed as one of their primary surnames.
Janet
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David,
This has been an interesting and educational exchange on family crests.
I've come to realize it could take a lifetime of research to find your
Carroll crest -- if there is even one in your line. I cannot even get
beyond 1850 for a gg grandfather born in Ireland c. 1790.
So just going with something you like the looks of may be your only choice.
And if you want to add your own touch to your crest, I think that would be
allowable here in America. Do a little research as to what the various
items in a crest mean and go with it. As Juhling said, it is probably best
not to trust the text found at commercial sites or stores that sell crests.
To browse for more crests, search irishsurnames.com or Irish Coats of Arms.
I found a few Carrolls there. Also --- Kenny. Are you sure of the spelling
of your name? Could be another case of Carrell/Carroll.
Good luck and enjoy. Janet
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Hi Listers:
I am doing research of my wife's family tree. Several branches in my wife's family tree had immigrated to the USA in the mid 1800's. The O'Carroll/Carroll family. This is one of the branches in her family tree that has developed a roadblock. Family lore has it this line was from Ireland, immigrated to America and changed their surname from O'Carroll to Carroll. Her Great Grandfather William Carroll Smith was born on July 16, 1896, in Tennessee. We believe he was from Claiborne County. He was married to Mary Kivette, who was born on August 20, 1889. Her family is my other roadblock. Here is where the mystery begins. Several family members tell of a story about a murder. It's not known if he was involved in the murder or if it was another family member that was involved in the murder. William and Mary moved north and then his siblings moved north. He and his siblings changed their last name to Smith when they moved north. I can not find anything on William and his family prior to the move north. If anyone has information to share, I would appreciate any help. I hope you all enjoy your Independence Day and have a safe one.
Erick J. Owens Sr.
Monroe, Michigan
Happy Independence Day to everyone!
Does anyone have Carroll ancestors who were in Claiborne Co, TN in the early
1800's?
If so, I would like to hear from you.
Carol
I want to thank everone who offered help and advice in my search for the
Carroll crest. I understand the "official" take on the use of a crest, but I
am simply searching for a representative crest of the Carroll's of Ireland,
not so much for some exact and provable historical significance, but merely
as yet another way to enforce the strong link I feel with my Irish
ancestors.
Everyone's help and advice was very useful.
Slainte,
David
----- Original Message -----
From: <CarrollMS(a)aol.com>
To: <CARROLL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 6:20 AM
Subject: [CARROLL] Crests - Authority, Use, and Creation
> In my experience and discussions with those knowledgeable of family crests
> there are three things that might be relevant to one choosing to use a
crest.
>
> 1. There is a custom in Ireland that says that anyone may use the accepted
> crest of their last name. Current Irish rule is that you can use the
crest:
> "Edward MacLysaght, former Chief Herald of Ireland, in his book. Irish
> Families (1957) stated the position is, Arms shown in Part III, of the
book,
> may be displayed without impropriety, of the Sept if that person really
does
> belong to the Sept. The Clan Cian chief advises that any person desiring
to
> bear Arms apply for a Letter of Confirmation from the Irish heraldry. See
> http://www.clancian-carroll.com/
>
> 2. In America we have no noble class. Heraldry in America is a choice of
> each individual. One can create their own if they so desire.
>
>
>
>
>
This is all I have on my Carroll connection:
Anthony Carroll, born 17 March, 1867 (or 1869) in Rathdowney, Co. Laois.
Married Mary Ann O'Driscoll (b. 1863, Cork) on 18 Sept. 1895 in White
Plains, NY. Died in 1952 in Jackson Heights, NY.
Daughter Mary Ellen Carroll was my grandmother. Born 7 Apr 1899 in Bronx,
NY, died in Central Islip, NY on 29 Jul 1970.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth Sanderson" <beth52095(a)hotmail.com>
To: <CARROLL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 7:58 PM
Subject: [CARROLL] my Carroll family Nc.&Tn.
> My Carroll kin are Daniel Huff Carroll B.1815 Nc. and his bro.Sterling
> Carroll B.10-03-1806 Nc.
>
>
> Daniel Huff B.1815-nc. married 12-1837 they were married in Cheatham co.
Nc.
> Mary Juliette Granvill Womble -Both died in Carroll co.Tn.
> their childern are :
> Thomas W. born:1838
> Sarah born:1840
> William T.born:1842
> Josiah James born:1844
> Sterling Dickson born:1845
> Lydia born:1847
> Susan born:1850
> Martha born:1853in Bedford co.Tn.
>
> Sterling bro. to Daniel married Winnie Tillman in Cheatham co.Nc. They
> both died in Carroll co.Tn.
>
> This is all the info. i have on them until Martha married my Great grand
> father Deronda W.Smith in Carroll co. if you know of these people please
let
> me know. Thank you. Elizabeth
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