Dear Peter: This info will probably not be much help but I'll pass it along
anyway. I have an old watch that I think was passed down to my
g-g-g-grandfather, John W. Carroll (1789-1867). It has the following
inscriptions on it: M. J. Tobias & Co., Liverpool, Hands No. 34306, Patent
Lever, 13 (or 15) jewels. I made a half-hearted effort to trace the watch
but was unsuccessful.
John W. Carroll was supposedly born in Sampson County, NC so he was not the
one who migrated to the U.S. I haven't been able to identify his parents
yet, and his DNA does not match that of the other Carrolls who lived in the
southern part of Sampson County around 1790. I know he married Elizabeth
Joyner (Joiner) in the Newton Grove area which is in the NE corner of
Sampson County. I suspect that he came into Sampson from another county. I
also wonder if he was either illegitimate or adopted since I haven't been
able to find matching DNA.
Well, there you have it. If the watch could be traced, it might shed some
light on our mutual mystery.
Good Luck. Frank Edwards, Fairfield Glade, TN.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Carroll" <peter.carroll4(a)tesco.net>
To: "Carroll DNA Mailing List" <carroll-dna(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [CARROLL-DNA] Mutations
Hi Larry and all,
I listed my pedigree as far back as I can go when I first joined the list,
so I'll just give some more details of my earliest known ancestor to see
if you or anyone else can see a connection.
My ggg grandfather, Edward Carroll, was born in the Parish of Liscannor
(then also known as Touheran) in Co. Clare on 24 Nov. 1824. I know that he
had a brother, Michael Edward Carroll, who was also born in Liscannor
either
in Dec. 1832 or Jan. 1833. Both of them moved to South Wales and ended up
as
policemen in the Pembrokeshire County Constabulary. Edward is meant to
have
been in the army in Dublin from April 1845 until he left and went to
Carmarthen
in April 1847 having caught 'fever'. Their father was a John
Carroll who was a carpenter by trade and, for a while at least, a
shopkeeper. Edward trained as a sawyer and Michael as a carpenter, but
neither of them carried on in that profession. All I know for certain
about
John is what I've gleaned from records relating to Edward and Michael,
which
isn't a lot. If Edward was born in 1824 I think it reasonable to assume,
though, that John would have been born before 1810. Apart from that, a
distant cousin of mine thinks that John was originally from Co. Tipperary
and lived for a while in Waterford before moving to Clare. She also thinks
that it
wasn't just Edward and Michael who moved to Wales, but the whole family,
but
I've not found any proof of that so far. That's it. Not much to go on, but
if you think you can see how our lines might intersect, let me know.
As for tracing further back, I went to the British Library Newspaper Room
yesterday to look at old copies of the Clare Journal. They included
announcements of births, marriages and deaths, but only, it seems, for the
gentry, the clergy and military officers, so I didn't make any
breakthroughs. There were a few mentions of Carrolls, though, but mostly
in
connection with crimes committed either by or against them. I made a note
of
them all the same; you never know.
Peter Carroll
----- Original Message -----
From: "L Carroll" <lcarroll(a)toledotel.com>
To: <carroll-dna(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [CARROLL-DNA] Mutations
> Peter,
> Could you send me your information on your line of Carroll's?
> I'll try to see if any of your Carroll's intersect with my line of
> Carroll's.
> Thank You.
> Larry Carroll
> lcarroll(a)toledotel.com
>
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