Hi Mike,
Isn't the member of the project who is descended from Charles Carroll of
Carrollton (Kit No. 112378 on the chart) a link to the O'Carrolls of Ely? Or
am I missing something? All the same, another proven descendant would be
fantastic.
Peter.
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From: "Mike Carroll" <mike(a)beltlink.com>
To: "Michael O'Carroll" <fenitharbour(a)eircom.net>
Cc: <carroll-dna(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [CARROLL-DNA] CARROLL-DNA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 37
Good morning. I am working on getting a strong candidate to help identify
the Carroll's of Ely. Hopefully by the beginning of the year we will have
the results.
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Michael O'Carroll
<fenitharbour(a)eircom.net>wrote:
Mike/Laura
Hi all.
As a very casual follower of this amazing DNA historic reflection, it is
the first time that I have seen some of the results for which I am
looking;
definite isolation/identification of the five septs. I have not yet
done
the 37 marker test but will do so soon, sooner if there is any chance of
confirming the sept to which we belong. We believe my family have been in
Kilkenny since 0840, making us O'Carrolls of Ossory, but we could have
just
travelled down the road from Ely??
My reference test numbers are U1830/D4808 - DNA Worldwide
Family Tree DNA Kit# 44330.
How many septs have been identified so far and where do I go next.
Regards,
Michael O'Carroll
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From: carroll-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:
carroll-dna-bounces(a)rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Carroll
Sent: 31 October 2009 16:15
To: carroll-dna(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CARROLL-DNA] CARROLL-DNA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 37
Lura:
Regarding your question, "I remember that you wrote a long time ago about
going to
Northeastern Ireland and locating a grave stone with the name
most commonly used in your Carroll lineage?," you are mostly correct. I
have not yet gone to the Oriel Territory yet but plan to do so once the
exchange rate between the Euro and Dollar drops to a more affordable rate,
eg $1.20:€1. When I received my 37 marker results a few years back, I was
closest in Y-DNA match as to the Carroll surname to your North
Carolina/Virginia group. From what I was able to determine from the
genetic
distant chart was that we had a possible common relative within 300
to 500
years ago. With my early USA school education and reading the book
'Trinity,' I learned that the first settlers of the eastern coast of
United
States were Scots-Irish (North East and North Central Irelanders).
The
English planted the Scots in these Irish territory to quell the many Irish
rebellions against English rule. But after two generations, these Scots
now
considered themselves Irish and found that they too were second
class
citizens to the English gentry. The last straw was the Penal Code laws
against the Catholics which were used even against the Scottish planter
ascendants when the English gentry wanted their lands, etc... So these
Scots-Irish having a recent history of moving from one land to another
were
manifested to go further West to the colonies for freedom from the
English
bondage. So with my Y-DNA results and matching to your group, I have
narrowed searching for my relations to Oriel territory in Northeast
Ireland.
It is known through ancient historical record that there was a
Carroll
clan
that developed in what is modern day County Louth. Since my family
are
sea
faring people, I have been searching in coastal areas of County
Louth,
County Antrim, and County Down. My Carroll line has been using the first
name Frank and Edwin for the last three generations. Henry is a name that
a
staunch Catholic would have not named their son so I have been
searching
Presbyterian churches. I did find a Henry Carrol who married a Mary
McKibbon in 1841 in County Down at the 2nd Presbyterian Church. Also
found are three grave stones with the names Frank and Edwin Carrol from
the
late 1600's and 1700's in a Presbyterian cemetery at a town
that no longer
exists called Raloo. Raloo was founded by the Crawfords and Blairs in the
early 1600's as Planters. I am assuming that the Carrol's in the Raloo
graveyard married into the Crawford or Blair family. There is a lot of
history in that territory that is long forgotten yet fascinating. Having
confirmed that my Carrolls are descendants of the Carrolls of Oriel
through
the "NULL Value at DYS 425" has been an immense
breakthrough on my family
research. My assumptions have been confirmed and now I can move forward
in
full confidence in researching the Northeast of Ireland for my
relatives.
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