OK...
You are the Mike Carroll to whom I addressed my first letter
several days ago. At that time, I used your kit number.
We have at least two Mike Carrolls on this mail list. Unless the
two of you or someone else can think of a way we can distinguish
between you, I am going to refer to YOU as "Mike (Henry)"...
based on the fact that you list Henry as your earliest ancestor
on the chart kept by Kevin Carroll.
Although the Null value at DYS 425 gives us one distinctive
factor we share, a common ancestor with the Sampson/Duplin Co, NC
group would be many generations back based on the large genetic
distance. Our Sampson, NC ancestors were probably in the
colonies almost 100 years before your ancestor came. We don't
have exact dates, but we know some were here by 1759. One may
have come as early as 1739.
Concerning religion... All I have talked with so far in
researching our Carrolls say their ancestor was protestant - as
far as they know. This would be consistent with the Scots-Irish
possibility. The NULL value at DYS 425 definitely seems more
prevelant in the Scots and Irish from Northeastern Ireland.
Since FTDNA has posted your 67 markers, you should be able to
click on your personal website to have the markers 38-67 added to
YSearch.org. I'm anxious to be able to use YSearch to compare
your haplotype with my cousin's.
Lura
Researching kit # 32961
YSearch ID HRYB8
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Carroll" <mike(a)beltlink.com>
To: <carroll-dna(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: [CARROLL-DNA] CARROLL-DNA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 37
Lura:
Regarding your question, "I remember that you wrote a long time
ago about going to
Northeastern Ireland and locating a grave stone with the name
most commonly used in your Carroll lineage?," you are mostly
correct. I have not yet gone to the Oriel Territory yet but plan
to do so once the exchange rate between the Euro and Dollar drops
to a more affordable rate, eg $1.20:1. When I received my 37
marker results a few years back, I was closest in Y-DNA match as
to the Carroll surname to your North Carolina/Virginia group.
From what I was able to determine from the genetic distant chart
was that we had a possible common relative within 300 to 500
years ago. With my early USA school education and reading the
book 'Trinity,' I learned that the first settlers of the eastern
coast of United States were Scots-Irish (North East and North
Central Irelanders). The English planted the Scots in these
Irish territory to quell the many Irish rebellions against
English rule. But after two generations, these Scots now
considered themselves Irish and found that they too were second
class citizens to the English gentry. The last straw was the
Penal Code laws against the Catholics which were used even
against the Scottish planter ascendants when the English gentry
wanted their lands, etc... So these Scots-Irish having a recent
history of moving from one land to another were manifested to go
further West to the colonies for freedom from the English
bondage. So with my Y-DNA results and matching to your group, I
have narrowed searching for my relations to Oriel territory in
Northeast Ireland. It is known through ancient historical record
that there was a Carroll clan that developed in what is modern
day County Louth. Since my family are sea faring people, I have
been searching in coastal areas of County Louth, County Antrim,
and County Down. My Carroll line has been using the first name
Frank and Edwin for the last three generations. Henry is a name
that a staunch Catholic would have not named their son so I have
been searching Presbyterian churches. I did find a Henry Carrol
who married a Mary McKibbon in 1841 in County Down at the 2nd
Presbyterian Church. Also
found are three grave stones with the names Frank and Edwin
Carrol from the late 1600's and 1700's in a Presbyterian cemetery
at a town that no longer exists called Raloo. Raloo was founded
by the Crawfords and Blairs in the early 1600's as Planters. I
am assuming that the Carrol's in the Raloo graveyard married into
the Crawford or Blair family. There is a lot of history in that
territory that is long forgotten yet fascinating. Having
confirmed that my Carrolls are descendants of the Carrolls of
Oriel through the "NULL Value at DYS 425" has been an immense
breakthrough on my family research. My assumptions have been
confirmed and now I can move forward in full confidence in
researching the Northeast of Ireland for my relatives.
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