I'm sorry!
I had made some notes this afternoon and meant to make those notes into a letter. Just now
I meant to SAVE it to write the letter
tomorrow. Instead, I hit SEND. I'll try to straighten it out tomorrow.
Lura
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Olson" <ericbear01(a)earthlink.net>
To: <CARROLL-DNA-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: [CARROLL-DNA] FW: RE: Fw: New Deep SNP Results are back.
: Did anyone else on the list do the new deep clade test with FTDNA? Was it helpful with
your genealogies?
:
: I will pull all the Carrolls I find on these old (1780s) Pennsylvania excise tax lists
and post them here soon. See bottom line..
:
: Cheers
:
: Eric Olson
: ericbear01(a)earthlink.net
:
:
:
: Subject: RE: Fw: New DeepSNP Results are back.
:
:
: Dear Cousin Bill Carroll, et al...
:
: Your new test results confirm the Carroll Y-DNA Haplogroup is indeed Haplogroup R1a,
with all that implies. We were hoping for a
little more definition, such as R1a1a or R1a1b with the new test, but that has not
occured. Therefore the geographical origin of
our Carroll Y-DNA has not been narrowed down as hoped. Bummer...
:
: All these + or - results are for certain mutations, sequentially accumulated over
thousands of years, and would be diagnostic of
geography if they were present, but the - 's indicate they are not present except for
the first few. The mystery of the origin of
the Carroll Y-DNA deepens.....
:
: The tests for certain crucial mutations, in particular M 17, apparently failed to give a
result. These may be re-run sometime
soon according to your letter from FTDNA. Most of the folks who requested the Deep Clade
SNP test have received similar letters
from FTDNA. Apparently the testing lab has failed to deliver all they promised ...
:
: (The link to) Tanmoy's genealogy pages
http://members.tripod.com/~tanmoy/geneology.html are the best analysis of R1a I have yet
seen. In Europe, Haplogroups I and R1b predominate, and R1a runs a distant third. Most
of the real work being done by the
scientists so far are in analysis of those first two. R1a waits impatiently in the
wings.
:
: The Carroll surname Y-DNA project at FTDNA currently has test results from 30 Carroll
men.
http://www.familytreedna.com/(toyazi45prppfl453dy2lb55)/public/carroll/in...
They are mostly Haplogroup R1b,
and Irish. Our Carroll R1a is the only R1a in the project, and therefore unique. (And
probably not Irish). It is Eastern
European, or Viking, or Central Asian, or possibly Asian Indian.
:
: Sooo ... our best bet to resolve this puzzle remains with waiting for a Carroll / Carrel
gent in Europe to Y-DNA test and post his
results to the public database at
YSearch.com, etc. If his Y-DNA matches yours, then we
will have found a European, or Asian,
cousin with all that implies. I monitor the public databases weekly.
:
: More traditionally, I have just received 99 pages in PDF of excise tax records from
Pennsylvania for six counties of interest,
from the late 1700s. It will take me a while to search them all for Carroll. So far I
found a John Correll, of Lancaster County,
paying excise tax on 100 gallons of rum in 1774.
:
: Cheers,
: Eric
:
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: Bill Carroll
: To: Eric Olson
: Sent: 5/8/2006 5:11:54 PM
: Subject: Fw: New DeepSNP Results are back.
:
:
: Eric,
:
: Some results are posted. I have no idea what it means though. Do you?
:
: Regards,
: Bill
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: info(a)familytreedna.com
: To: bcarroll222(a)comcast.net
: Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:07 PM
: Subject: New DeepSNP Results are back.
:
:
: Your SNP DEEP Haplogroup test results are now available for you to see on
: the Haplogroup tab of your personal page. We have listed all tests that
: we have tested you for where a positive (+) or negative (-) result was
: obtained, so expect to see several + and - signs after the name of the SNP
: that you were tested for.
:
: In some cases you may see SNPs with different names applying to the same
: haplogroup. This is because these SNPs are considered by the
: anthropological community to be equal in phylogeny.
:
: In cases where you have some results but one or more SNPs are NOT listed,
: you were tested for them but because that particular SNP failed in the
: testing, it is being rerun. However in all cases you'll see what you are
: (+) and which SNPs you can rule out (-) at this time.
:
: Remember the Haplogroup classification WILL change as the tree evolves,
: however the test that you are positive for will NOT change. For example
: we recently re-assigned P-25 from R1b to R1b1, as M343 (now R1b) is the
: node of the tree in-between R1 and R1b1. We will update your specific
: Haplogroup definition automatically in the future as the tree evolves and
: in agreement with scientific papers.
:
: Follow the link below to view your personal page. Your haplogroup results
: can be found in the Haplogroup and Y-DNA DYS Values sections.
:
:
http://www.familytreedna.com/ftLogin.asp?kit=27123&code=Q3280
:
: Please remember to add (or update) your results at
www.Ysearch.org, the
: FTDNA sponsored public database. Go to the Y-DNA Matches tab and you will
: see an explanation and a link for the upload.
:
: To view the SNPs that are tested in each Deep Clade test, see this page:
:
:
http://www.familytreedna.com/deepclade.html
:
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