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SAME MESSAGE SENT TO NEW ADDRESS. AM NOT SURE WHETHER EVERYONE ON THE
LIST GOT IT WITH ALL OF THE CONFUSION, BUT HERE IT IS AGAIN.
Ann V. Davis
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From: avzdavis(a)juno.com (Ann V Davis)
To: "Carrington Family discussion list"
<CARRINGTON(a)rmgate.pop.indiana.edu>
Subject: J. DAVID CARRINGTON
Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 22:48:36 EDT
Message-ID: <2768C13E41(a)rmgate.pop.indiana.edu>
He is reported to be the father of Ida Carrington who married George
Wayne Davis in Danville, VA, ca. 1910. Ida's mother was Mary Collins
who was married first to Elisha Odum and lived in New Bern, NC. Ida's
father is listed as David Carrington in one place on her death records
and as J. D. Carrington in another place. Ida Carrington Davis was born
about 1878 and died in New Bern on 05APR1941. Ida is reported to be part
Indian and he is the most logical candidate to be the Indian. All help
and suggestions appreciated.
Ann Veazey Davis
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>Return-Path: stephenl(a)exchange.ucs.indiana.edu
>From: "Larry Stephens" <STEPHENL(a)riskmgt.pop.indiana.edu>
>To: "List owners@rmgate advisory messages" <LISTOWN(a)riskmgt.pop.indiana.edu>
>Subject: MAISER
>Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 12:46:00 GMT-0500 (EST)
>Errors-to: <stephenl(a)exchange.ucs.indiana.edu>
>Sender: Maiser(a)riskmgt.pop.indiana.edu
>X-listname: <LISTOWN(a)riskmgt.indiana.edu>
>Organization: Indiana University Risk Management
>
>The answer from IU was not good.
>
>PLEASE - DON'T START A MASS EXODUS TO ROOTSWEB!
>
>I'm working with them to do this in an orderly fashion. They are swamped
>as it is and this may take a few days. Remember we're talking around 1,000
>lists here. I'm still not sure what role I'll play, but I'm talking with
>them about this and I'll be here helping you get moved.
>
>I'm answering mail as fast as I can, but it's really swarming in, so be
>patient. Just don't get in a panic as we're making sure everything is
>taken care of.
>
>
>IMPORTANT FOR NON-GENEALOGY LISTS!!!!!!
>
>They may be able to accomodate you at rootsweb (for those of you I haven't
>yet contacted). Hang on tight for a little bit unless you already have a
>new home lined up.
>
>
>
>There will be some new things to learn as they use SmartList. I'm going to
>check out that web site today to get up to speed on it.
>
>
>We'll get this all lined out soon.
>
>(For those of you that have moved elsewhere, I'll get you off here as soon
>as I can.)
>
>
>
> Larry Stephens
> NOTE: The return address on this message is **not ** good.
> We are in the process of transferring to a new mail
> client.
>
> Please respond to STEPHENL(a)indiana.edu
>
>
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>Return-Path: llanogr(a)sat.net
>Comments: Authenticated sender is <llanogr(a)mail.sat.net>
>From: "Pam Phillips" <llanogr(a)sat.net>
>Organization: WebPsalms
>To: EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS(a)raven.sat.net
>Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 21:56:24 +0000
>Subject: EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS
>Reply-to: webpsalms(a)iname.com
>Return-receipt-to: webpsalms(a)iname.com
>Priority: normal
>
>Dear friends,
>
>The MAISER server which held our EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS mailing list has
>been shut down due to a terrible "SPAM" situation. Larry Stephens,
>who has worked so long and hard to make these valuable genealogy
>mailing lists available to us is continuing to work around the clock
>to find a solution. I have heard that there are some serious
>negotiations going on, but do not have any details.
>
>If Larry is unable to come up with a solution, we will move to
>Rootsweb. They will charge me $24 a year, but it is a fee I am glad
>to absorb since I would like to support them anyway Subscribers to
>the list would not have to pay anything.
>
>Meanwhile, I am sending this message to all of you through Pegasus
>mail. If it works, then if you have something to post to
>EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS, you can send it to me at webpsalms(a)iname.com and I
>will then post it to the membership.
>
>If this works, then everyone who was subscribed as of the last REVIEW
>I did on 5/6 should receive a copy of this letter.
>
>I will send you another update in a day or so.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Pam Phillips
>Listowner EAST-TEXAS-ROOTS
>
>
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>Return-Path: owner-argen-l(a)sirius.dsenter.com
>X-Sender: betsym(a)1starnet.com
>Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 21:56:06 -0500
>To: argen-l(a)sirius.dsenter.com
>From: Betsy Mills <betsym(a)1starnet.com>
>Subject: ARGEN: MAISER lists
>Sender: owner-argen-l(a)sirius.dsenter.com
>
Symptoms of email withdrawal include: Shaking, sweating, double vision
>(from crossing your eyes trying to make it look like you have more mail than
>you actually do), whining, irritability, and finger strain (this is from
>clicking on the "Check mail" button to be ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN your mail
>program is working correctly and you really DON'T have any new mail)!! Also
>your family --may look a little strange to you, but this is because you
>haven't seen them in a while!!! They may also react in fear when they see
>your face as they have only seen the back of your head for the past several
>months!
>
Hey, at least, none of us are suffering from that!!! :)
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>Return-Path: xxx(a)rmgate.pop.indiana.edu
>From: "Larry Stephens" <STEPHENL(a)riskmgt.pop.indiana.edu>
>To: "ARKANSAS-ROOTS" <ARKANSAS-ROOTS(a)riskmgt.pop.indiana.edu>
>Subject: MAISER lists
>Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 21:29:49 GMT-0500 (EST)
>Errors-to: <xxx(a)rmgate.pop.indiana.edu>
>Sender: Maiser(a)riskmgt.pop.indiana.edu
>X-listname: <ARKANSAS-ROOTS(a)riskmgt.indiana.edu>
>Organization: Indiana University Risk Management
>
>PLEASE DON'T SEND ME MAIL ASKING ME TO REMOVE YOU FROM THE LIST, SET
>NOMAIL OR WHATEVER.
>
>There are changes afoot and you won't receive but one more message via the
>current list.
>
>I hope you all received the message about the spammer and how he has
>killed the lists as we've known them for the past two years or so.
>
>The regional lists will stay alive, but there are some changes.
>
>I am moving them to IU's listserv machines. That will mean better service
>than on my machine. You'll learn more about that in the coming days.
>
>My next message to you will be when I get the new lists set up, and I'll
>give you instructions on what to do.
>
>YOU WILL HAVE TO RE-SUBSCRIBE TO YOUR LIST(S)! listserv's format (on
>it's files) is different than what we've had, so I can't just move the
>subscriber lists over. DON'T TRY SUBSCRIBING UNTIL YOU GET THE NEXT
>MESSAGE FROM ME.
>
>You'll be hearing from me again in just a day or two with further
>instructions.
>
>AGAIN, IF YOU JUST WANT OFF THE LIST(S), DO NOTHING. AFTER THE NEXT
>MESSAGE YOU'LL BE OFF.
>
>
>
>IMPORTANT NOTE FOR LA-CAJUN-ROOTS and ARKANSAS-ROOTS subscribers:
>
>Traffic on these lists has been, for the most part, light. Cajun related
>traffic has been nil. To help with management of the lists, I'm combining
>these two lists into ARK-LA-ROOTS. You should notice very little change in
>your mail traffic.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
> Larry Stephens
> NOTE: The return address on this message is **not ** good.
> We are in the process of transferring to a new mail
> client.
>
> Please respond to STEPHENL(a)indiana.edu
>
>
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>Return-Path: stephenl(a)exchange.ucs.indiana.edu
>From: "Larry Stephens" <STEPHENL(a)riskmgt.pop.indiana.edu>
>To: "List owners@rmgate advisory messages" <LISTOWN(a)riskmgt.pop.indiana.edu>
>Subject: MAISER - the last chapter
>Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:21:06 GMT-0500 (EST)
>Errors-to: <stephenl(a)exchange.ucs.indiana.edu>
>Sender: Maiser(a)riskmgt.pop.indiana.edu
>X-listname: <LISTOWN(a)riskmgt.indiana.edu>
>Organization: Indiana University Risk Management
>
>Things are winding down on this saga, as most of you have probably heard.
>
>I have not yet went through the messages to remove all of you who may have
>moved, so be patient just a little longer.
>
>I have not yet heard back from IU about my request to keep the lists alive
>and to get help ($$) putting listserv on my server. I'm giving them until
>noon tomorrow before acting on what I'll discuss below.
>
>
>As I have said to some of you, the physical location of a list (other than
>reliability issues, etc.) is immaterial. So, why am I giving them until
>noon - and why am I asking you to do the same?
>
>The only viable reason I have for keeping the lists alive - from the
>university perspective - is because they support research that ties into
>history, folklore, etc., and provide a public service.
>
>Well, you say, so what?
>
>While most of the lists here were genealogy related, some were not and I
>don't want to leave them high and dry if I can find a way to keep this
>alive. So, I want to keep the IU option open until tomorrow at noon.
>
>
>If I don't have an affirmative answer by noon, then we move to a new book.
>
>As you probably know by now, rootsweb has graciously offered to accept all
>the genealogy lists free of charge. Without ever having this as a goal, it
>seems the mail service here became a major source of research for
>genealogy via email in the U.S. Karen and Brian (and whoever else there)
>don't want a gap left by it's possible departure, and so they've stepped
>forward.
>
>If we go the rootsweb route, I'll start making the necessary moves for you
>as soon after noon tomorrow as I can. Now, there are some important things
>for you to do if this happens, so please read on CAREFULLY. THIS PRESUMES
>WE MAKE THE MOVE.
>
>
>1. Some of you have told me you have moved already. I'm processing those
>messages as fast as I can. Before I actually start moving anything, I'll
>send out another message; if you've moved and I know it, you won't get
>that message so you'll have nothing to do.
>
> If you've moved and haven't told me, tell me now.
>
>2. If you don't want to move there (for whatever reason), tell me now.
>
>3. If you own a non-genealogy list, I'm really sorry things have not
>worked out. (Again, this presumes IU doesn't respond - don't give up until
>tomorrow, unless you've already found a new home.)
>
>4. I don't have specific details, yet, but I'm presuming I'll transfer
>subscription lists and (eventually) archives to their servers. I have to
>find out how they handle welcome files, etc. I'll send you exact details
>tomorrow.
>
>5. If you are going to rootsweb (have gone or I'll be moving you) please
>don't ask me for your subscription files or archives right now. I'm going
>to be absolutely swamped with this, and you'll be able to use their server
>to access your lists soon, anyway.
>
>6. If you're going or have gone anywhere else and want your subscription
>lists and/or archives, let me know and I'll get them to you ASAP (lists
>first, archives once it dies down just a little).
>
>I have several messages from you now requesting this info. Because of this
>new development, I'm not going to act on those unless I see a specific
>need (one person is going to make his available by ftp) or I can identify
>you're somewhere else. Right now I'm swamped by mail, but I'll try to
>answer you as fast as I can, but please help me by not sending unnecessary
>requests.
>
>
>One way or the other we should all be back in business by the weekend.
>
>
>
>I think rootsweb wants me to play a role there and I'm waiting on an email
>back from Karen, so you may not be rid of me after all.
>
>
>If this spells the end of family genealogy lists at IU, as well as the
>other lists we've hosted, I want you to know I've enjoyed (mostly) working
>with you here. It's been hectic, at times it's been very frustrating, but
>I've enjoyed it. I hope I was able to make a difference for you and your
>research. I think we blazed a new path or two and I hope that influence
>goes on helping people in their research.
>
>You'll hear from me again sometime after noon tomorrow.
>
>
>
>
>
> Larry Stephens
> NOTE: The return address on this message is **not ** good.
> We are in the process of transferring to a new mail
> client.
>
> Please respond to STEPHENL(a)indiana.edu
>
>
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>Return-Path: MAISER-L-request(a)rootsweb.com
>Resent-Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:45:05 -0700
>Comments: Authenticated sender is <jrigdon(a)mail.gabn.net>
>From: jrigdon(a)mail.gabn.net (John C. Rigdon)
>To: maiser-l(a)rootsweb.com
>Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:42:06 +0000
>Subject: (Fwd) newspaper article
>Priority: normal
>Resent-Message-ID: <"PoXo2B.A.IcG.kycez"@bl-12>
>Resent-From: MAISER-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Reply-To: MAISER-L(a)rootsweb.com
>X-Mailing-List: <MAISER-L(a)rootsweb.com> archive/latest/407
>X-Loop: MAISER-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Resent-Sender: MAISER-L-request(a)rootsweb.com
>
>
>The article appeared in The Atlanta Journal Constitution today, May 13. I
>suppose it ran here because the "culprit" was from a local city (Dunwoody,
>Ga. near an Atlanta suburb).
>
>Regards, Glenna Kinard (frequent user of SC, NC and Ga sites. Love them!!)
>
>//////////////
>E-MAIL MISHAP HALTS GENEALOGY SERVICE
>Researchers, buffs lose a valuable tool
>
>By Art Kramar
>STAFF WRITER
>
> A Dunwoody retailer said he unwittingly started a chain of junk Email that
>undermined one of the most popular exchanges of genealogy information on the
>Internet.
> The shutdown is depriving tens of thousands of genealogy buffs of their
>most effective online research tool, said John Rigdon, national coordinator
>of The USGenWeb Project, a genealogy clearinghouse on the World Wide Web.
> The exchange, called Maiser, is a collection of mailing lists for those
>trading research about their ancestors. Many genealogy buffs subscribe to
>several lists, keyed to cities, towns, regions or family surnames. It's not
>unusual for a genealogy hobbyist to sift through several hundred list-sent
>messages daily, in search of a clue that points to a distant ancestor.
> Maiser, the largest collection of detailed lists with 40,000 subscribers,
>was forced off the Net last week after being used as a fake return address to
>hide the identity of a junk e-mailer.
> The disaster began when Sam Khuri, general manager of Benchmark Print
>Supply, sent a $100 money order to the post office box of a company that
>promised to advertise his service to 50,000 potential customers.
> "If I knew what they were going to do, I never would have sent the money,"
>said Khuri, whose company recycles toner cartridges for copiers.
> The contractor, whose identity Khuri said he lost in a computer crash of
>his own, e-mailed thousands of ads touting Khuri's service last week. The
>junk e-mail was routed through Indiana University computers, making it appear
>the ads bad come from the same computers that are home to the genealogy
>lists.
> The tactic of forging return addresses, making an uninvolved third party
>appear to be the sender of junk e-mail, is a common one. Such practices
>prompted several online services, including CompuServe and Prodigy, to get
>federal courts to help them bar junk e-mailers from their services.
> Larry Stephens, an Indiana University official who organized the groups as
>a hobby over the past three years, was forced to shut them down Friday rather
>than let them appear to be the source of the junk e-mail.
> Stephens said he couldn't risk furthering the perception that the junk
>e-mail was somehow connected to the university.
> "The loss of these mailing lists is devastating," Rigdon said. "We've lost
>approximately one third of our backbone for genealogy research. About 20,000
>daily users of the Internet have been effectively left with no
>communication."
> Stephens may reopen some of the regional lists this week if he can find
>software that can't be commandeered by junk e-mailers, but with the added
>security burden, he said it's unlikely he will revive the surname lists.
> Robert Turner, 52, a postal clerk in Huntsville, Ala., and a descendant of
>traveling blacksmith David Turner, bemoaned the demise of the surname lists.
> Turner and his wife, Winona Turner, added 4,000 ancestors to their family
>tree in the 30 years before they computerized their search, but 20,000 more
>in just 16 months online.
> Without the surname lists, said Turner, looking for his ancestors "will be
>akin to driving down a dark country road with no head-lights."
>
> -30-
>
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